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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:32 pm 
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In my self absorption I completely skipped over your post biodancer! Congrats! Did you retest to further convince yourself?

Good luck with your Dr appt jildez

AH: I've noticed my periods are all over the place too, just when I think I notice a pattern it's out the door. E.g with TMI:. several months of more clots and brown gunk than blood and no pms symptoms, then 2 months of boobs and lower back hurting so badly I want to cry but stringy blood with CF, and then today, period started with no warning symptoms at all and lots of blood. My body is crazy.

Well looks like I'm taking this cycle off from meds. The first appointment I could get with the RE is in 3 weeks, of course they are all taking vacations this month, and my reg OB doesn't see the point in prescribing clomid with my husband's bad morphology results. I agree with that mentality, but am a little frightened of how long this cycle will last without meds to shorten it. Even with the clomid, my cycle was 33 days this time, with an 17 day luteal phase - Crabby I wish I could donate some of these extra days to you. I'm guessing we're heading to IUI once I get checked out to see if it is PCOS that is causing my long cycles.

I keep reminding myself that in the grand scheme of things a few more months of waiting is nothing, but my emotional side is telling my rational side "it's not fair. I want a baby now"


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Congrats, biodancer!

About personal care products, I just got a bit more careful with stuff that contains parabens. While I prefer to use paraben-free stuff anyway, I sometimes cheap out, but while pregnant, I was more careful. I'm also careful with stuff full of lavender because I've read it's an endocrine disruptor (I don't worry about small quantities of it, but I avoid stuff that is obviously full of lavender since it is strongly scented). I'm sure there are other things to worry about too, but parabens and lavender are the things that I tend to find in the stuff I use. I really really like http://www.ewg.org/skindeep/ for checking out the safety of ingredients.


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Good luck with the doc appointments, jildez and chiveggie!


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Congrats, biodancer!

About personal care products, I just got a bit more careful with stuff that contains parabens. While I prefer to use paraben-free stuff anyway, I sometimes cheap out, but while pregnant, I was more careful. I'm also careful with stuff full of lavender because I've read it's an endocrine disruptor (I don't worry about small quantities of it, but I avoid stuff that is obviously full of lavender since it is strongly scented). I'm sure there are other things to worry about too, but parabens and lavender are the things that I tend to find in the stuff I use. I really really like http://www.ewg.org/skindeep/ for checking out the safety of ingredients.


I avoided lavender too, and Kellymom has a list of herbs to avoid (oregano and mint were two that are advised against, though I inadvertantly had a bit of both and was fine) http://kellymom.com/bf/can-i-breastfeed ... f/#general

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just *officially* joining this thread. not sure what to say other than "hi we're trying too" :-)

my period is due tomorrow and ive been insanely bloated for the last two days so im guessing my period will be coming any moment now but it's only our first few weeks of trying.

i do not know anything about this whole charting your cycles business other than i know usually roughly when i get my period. im fairly regular within 28-30 days.

this is kinda scary stuff

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chiveggie wrote:
Even with the clomid, my cycle was 33 days this time, with an 17 day luteal phase - Crabby I wish I could donate some of these extra days to you. I'm guessing we're heading to IUI once I get checked out to see if it is PCOS that is causing my long cycles.

Ha, thanks!! I would loev some extra days.

Okay, I don't usually talk about this stuff, but you know how they say maca powder is supposed to not only even out your cycle, but also enhance your verility? Uh...it does. "Scheduled sex," as Mr. Crabby calls it, just got a lot more fun for me. Okay, I also read doing lots of abdominal exercises help, too, so maybe it's that. I started doing P90x's ab-ripper* around the same time I started on the maca powder, so who knows.



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Hi Lisa, welcome!

And biodancer: CONGRATS!!

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So, hi, I'm pregnant! Whee! I've been avoiding mentioning it here because we just told our families, and I suspect that some of them stalk me here, so I didn't want to say anything until the news was out. And for those who are curious how well those super cheap Wondfo pregnancy tests work, they showed the faintest positive possible at 9 DPO for me, and a moderately clear positive at 10 DPO. Crazy that they work so well for so cheap.

And woah, I don't remember morning sickness starting before 6 weeks with my first child, so how am I already morning sick at 5.5 weeks?? This does not bode well.


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congrats!!!!!!!!!!! :-D

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Congratulations! Helbury!

I had my appointment on Wed, and it wasn't good. My estridol test came back really high. I can't find the piece of paper i had her write everything down for me on, but i think it was 143 and she was looking for a score in the 80s? My FSH was in her words, great, but she was ready to cart me off to an infertility specialist, saying egg donation would probably be their recommendation if i wanted to have a another babe.

So i came home and looked up stuff on estridol and i am sooo confused now. She had me take my test on the 2nd day of my period, and things keep referring to 3rd day testing, and they mostly seem concerned with low levels although the one thing i found about high levels reflects what she said, that i am entering perimenopause and unlikely to get pregnant again. I am 38, and my mom had her last child at 39, and my grandma had her last at 40, and she was born when her mom was 44! I didn't get my first cycle until i was 16, which made me feel like i was in good shape, but i guess not.

my husband and i have talked over and over about adopting and how we would adopt if we couldn't and/or when we were done having biological kids. So i came home and told him and he said, why don't we get a dog. I am hoping this means he just needed more time to think about it and adjust to us not having more, but he's asked if we can keep trying, so i am feeling very confused and not able to share my feelings with him.


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Congrats helbury!!


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Yay yay yay helbury! Congrats! And yeah, I had the same experience with those with both pregnancies. Hilariously, I have the strip from when I found out I was pregnant with E just floating around somewhere (can't recall where now, but I found it again recently) and it is STILL positive almost four years later.

And congrats BioDancer too!

I think of you all a lot and am hoping to hear more good news from this thread... Crabby, I feel like it's going to be your turn soon...

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Yay! Congrats helbury!!


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Lavender was one that I hadn't read about yet. There are so many conflicting articles online. My first prenatal appointment is on Thursday and I have a ton of questions. Maybe I should start a pregnancy safe products thread.


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helbury wrote:
Congrats, biodancer!

About personal care products, I just got a bit more careful with stuff that contains parabens. While I prefer to use paraben-free stuff anyway, I sometimes cheap out, but while pregnant, I was more careful. I'm also careful with stuff full of lavender because I've read it's an endocrine disruptor (I don't worry about small quantities of it, but I avoid stuff that is obviously full of lavender since it is strongly scented). I'm sure there are other things to worry about too, but parabens and lavender are the things that I tend to find in the stuff I use. I really really like http://www.ewg.org/skindeep/ for checking out the safety of ingredients.


I avoided lavender too, and Kellymom has a list of herbs to avoid (oregano and mint were two that are advised against, though I inadvertantly had a bit of both and was fine) http://kellymom.com/bf/can-i-breastfeed ... f/#general


Just wanted to point out that kellymom's stuff is about BREASTFEEDING, not pregnancy. Milk production for whatever reason seems a lot more sensitive to drugs/herbs than pregnancy and many things that are perfectly okay during pregnancy aren't so great while breastfeeding.


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Congrats helbury and biodancer!

@jildez, can you have an ultrasound done? It's pretty easy to tell about the ripeness and quantity of eggs this way.


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refinnej, thanks for the feedback- i hadn't read anything about doing an ultrasound and that sounds like a good option for us. I don't really want to go to a fertility specialist, but i am going back and forth about whether we should keep pursuing this . I think i am going to go to a different care provider. I have been seeing a nurse practitioner at a traditional practice, since i could get an appointment and originally i needed to have my iud out. the woman's manner has been very brusque and i've been just dealing with it, but i would never dream of giving birth with this practice. I now live in an area of Northern CA where midwives and homebirth are no big deal and i have heard there is a certified nurse practitioner who has a home practice and specializes in an integrated approach for fertility issues in the next county over. One of the women who was in our defunct playgroup went to her, so i am going to see if i can get her number. I am going back and forth about the test, if we should try it again, and your advice makes sense- it would clear things up in a way that redoing the test might not, since my cycles are so weird and i do tend to ovulate the day or so before i get my period (which from what i can tell would make my numbers make more sense).


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Did someone here tell me that I can pretty much give-up on charting with PCOS? Even on Metformin?

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AH: I think OPK tests can be unreliable with PCOS, as in you might get a positive surge, but no actual ovulation. I don't know about charting. I think basal temperature would still work, not sure if metformin gives side effects that could mess with CF charting. I figure charting never hurts.

Well I had my RE meet and greet appointment today. Everyone we met at the office seemed great. Very positive and friendly. The RE gave me a prescription for provera in case this unmedicated cycle goes past 35-40 days. My next cycle will be all baseline testing, lots of blood work and ultrasounds. The cycle after that will be IUI unless something unusual pops up with all the testing and ultrasounds.


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we have our first appt with an obgyn today (not pregnant yet just having an appt) and im sooooo nervous. i dont really know why but i feel like i want to barf everywhere. i feel like after this appt my life will officially be totally different.

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A coworker of mine whom I've known since I was 13 just delivered and lost her daughter preterm. I feel so sad and sick about it, and for some reason, totally doomed.

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A coworker of mine whom I've known since I was 13 just delivered and lost her daughter preterm. I feel so sad and sick about it, and for some reason, totally doomed.


That is so heartbreaking. Losing a child at any age is terrible.

On a more positive note... I got a faint positive yesterday, and another faint one today. I'm trying not to get too excited, especially as I am only 12ish days post ovulation, and have no symptoms other than lower back pain which may or may not be related. Still waiting to hear back from my OB to see if they want me to come in for blood work this early since I was referred on to a specialist, or if I just wait and see what happens.


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Aaaah chiveggie... Fingers crossed for you. Both my pregnancies started with faint positives at 10 DPO, and both progressed normally. It happens! And I hope it's happening for you.

AH, I'm really sorry to hear about your co-worker's loss. In a world full of sad shiitake that doesn't make sense, I think the death of a child has got to be one of the most miserable things.

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Yay, chiveggie. Fingers crossed for you too!


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thanks Ladies. I tried to go in today to get bloodwork done, but they want two tests 48 hours apart, and that won't work for me until next Tues and Thurs. It will be an anxious week. Very much hoping this baby sticks.


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