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PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:27 pm 
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Tofulish wrote:
In one of my parenting groups, there was a long thread about that and the consensus was:

Having just one is selfish - because who will they play with and they will be all alone caring for you when you get sick and die.
Having two is selfish - because what if one of them dies (see above).
Having three of them is selfish - because if one of them dies, then you only have two, which is selfish because see above.
So having four is the perfect number. Because you have spares.

Good God. I am one of four - now I am wondering which one of us is the spare. (I can't believe people actually think like this)

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 Post subject: Re: Ventilation Station 2.0
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I'm one of five! I guess my parents wanted to have a backup for the spare.

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 Post subject: Re: Ventilation Station 2.0
PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:32 am 
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that is INSANE.
I'm one of 5 too, but that's because my mom just looooves babies. Not children, mind you, BABIES. Such a good plan, amirite?


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 Post subject: Re: Ventilation Station 2.0
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We're back from vacation and yesterday went well but today my husband went back to work (and will probably get home super late after dealing with whatever unresolved crises came up while he was gone). The morning has been awful. So much crying and whining. Naptime will probably be later because she woke up late (7) but I am already counting the seconds.


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 Post subject: Re: Ventilation Station 2.0
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Ariann wrote:
Tofulish wrote:
In one of my parenting groups, there was a long thread about that and the consensus was:

Having just one is selfish - because who will they play with and they will be all alone caring for you when you get sick and die.
Having two is selfish - because what if one of them dies (see above).
Having three of them is selfish - because if one of them dies, then you only have two, which is selfish because see above.
So having four is the perfect number. Because you have spares.



Oh My God.

If it makes anyone feel better about choosing to have one, I have dealt with way too many families with multiple kids where just one winds up in charge of caring for elderly parents and when they die it is like world war three between the siblings. I guess parents just can't win. :)


both my parents comes from large families (6 or 7 kids) and in both situations only 1-2 of them can be bothered taking care of aging/dying parents.

my mom and my uncle were the only 2 out of 6 that did anything for their parents when they were elderly.
ill leave it there before i go on an angry rant about the others

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 Post subject: Re: Ventilation Station 2.0
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 Post subject: Re: Ventilation Station 2.0
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 Post subject: Re: Ventilation Station 2.0
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annak wrote:
You know you're in for a great day when you have to start the morning by justifying why you don't want play-doh dropped into your coffee.

Oh no, annak! I really feel for you! Zeph entered this phase last week. It's the worst! He dropped something into my cup of coffee, and I had to dump it and start over! (No negotiations here. He can't talk!)

My actual vent though, is that we're barely two weeks into school, and all four of us have caught a cold. Our little school-goer must have brought it home with him, as he had it first and is feeling a bit better now. Now the rest of us have it. Boooo.

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 Post subject: Re: Ventilation Station 2.0
PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 11:15 am 
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My actual vent though, is that we're barely two weeks into school, and all four of us have caught a cold. Our little school-goer must have brought it home with him, as he had it first and is feeling a bit better now. Now the rest of us have it. Boooo.

Same vent here. L gets sick from going to preschool, and then the rest of us got it. Ahh, the joys of starting school....

Also, man, I have so many days when I just feel like a shitty, shitty parent. Caring for 3 kids under 3 is such an ordeal most days that I just do what I can to get through the day and never get on top of the piles of laundry and cleanup required for the various messes that crop up here and there (thank you L for taking out EVERY SINGLE TOY YOU OWN in the space of 30 minutes while I feed the babies). I wish we could afford a housekeeper so so badly. I'm not a neat freak at all, but the squalor that has developed is really getting to me. I just tell myself that a bit of dirt is good for my kids' immune systems....


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 Post subject: Re: Ventilation Station 2.0
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I'd love a housekeeper but I'm not really sure that would even help. I mean, mostly it seems like unless you specifically hire somebody as your employee, you're working with a service that thinks your house can get clean and stay clean with a couple hours of effort every 2 weeks. Hahahahhhaha. ha. HAHHAAHHAA.

Plus, they don't really declutter, which in my house is 75% of the actual cleaning work. I need someone to nominate us for that hoarding show where they make you get rid of all your crepe and sell it at a yard sale.


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 Post subject: Re: Ventilation Station 2.0
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Um, helbury, I can't keep on top of it either and I have exactly one child. There is a bag of dirty sheets waiting to go down to the laundry room (basement, we live in a 4th floor walkup) that has been there for more than a week. I do not expect it to move anytime soon. Trying to be Zen about it.


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 Post subject: Re: Ventilation Station 2.0
PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 2:21 pm 
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annak wrote:
I'd love a housekeeper but I'm not really sure that would even help. I mean, mostly it seems like unless you specifically hire somebody as your employee, you're working with a service that thinks your house can get clean and stay clean with a couple hours of effort every 2 weeks. Hahahahhhaha. ha. HAHHAAHHAA.

Plus, they don't really declutter, which in my house is 75% of the actual cleaning work. I need someone to nominate us for that hoarding show where they make you get rid of all your crepe and sell it at a yard sale.


We declutter in preparation for our housekeeper who comes for about two hours every other week (and if I had to be more financially restricted, she would be one of the last luxuries I gave up, she is so essential now to the functioning of my life), but she actually has a bunch of clients who don't and she spends a ton of time actually organizing their homes for them. She's not a professional organizer or hoarding specialist or anything, but she has even spent time with people while they went through things and figured out how to get rid of stuff. I don't know that many housekeepers would do that!


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 Post subject: Re: Ventilation Station 2.0
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I think that is really helpful to know Ariann. Your housekeeper sounds great.

We generally split the tasks down the middle - he does the big stuff (vacuuming once a week, cleaning the bathrooms every month, laundry, mowing, etc) and I do the day to day picking up, cooking and washing up, which is all stuff I can do with L. He also feeds the animals, scoops the litterboxes etc. The big tasks and the small fiddly every day constant things seem pretty even to me. I swear I spend at least an hour a day putting books and toys away. If I had to do one major cleaning task a day on top of that, I would go insane.

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 Post subject: Re: Ventilation Station 2.0
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My husband doesn't get rid of things. I've tried. We have OS/2 warp discs. We have SCSI cables. Though I have an entire full-size book shelf devoted to cooking and a closet full of sewing/quilting/embroidery stuff I rarely have time to use etc, so I can't really judge...


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 Post subject: Re: Ventilation Station 2.0
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We have an attic and basement for that :) As long as its out of sight, I am cool with it.

I've seen the photos of your home and it looks really nice!

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 Post subject: Re: Ventilation Station 2.0
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We're in the biggest house we've ever rented right now, and it has a lot of built-in storage thankfully. Unfortunately, not knowing where we'll move in a few months means potentially downsizing, esp. if it's somewhere expensive like DC. I would prefer to live more simply with less stuff, but getting to a point where we both agree on what to declutter and have time to do it (B works really long hours so we both are exhausted by the end of the day) is really, really difficult.


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I would kill for a cleaning person once every 2 weeks. I mentioned it to my husband once as a joke that I would buy one of those house cleaner groupons and he LOST IT! He was pissed at me for days because of how lazy I was that I wanted a cleaning person. In the meantime he loses it at how messy the house is even though he knows it's hard for me to keep up. The best thing we did recently was get all the toys out of our combined living room/dining room. Everything is in their rooms now and we also decluttered Reno's room. Got rid of 5 bags of stuff. Its much more manageable now when they bring a few toys into those rooms it's easy to just bring it back instead of piling up into bins and getting kicked under our couches etc.

For people who have mates/kids who have trouble decluttering....do what I do and wait until they are at work/school and declutter then. They won't even know their things are gone most of the time.

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JENNA wrote:
For people who have mates/kids who have trouble decluttering....do what I do and wait until they are at work/school and declutter then. They won't even know their things are gone most of the time.


::snort!:: B is constantly finding surprise presents for L, when he is at the Salvation Army etc, and for the most part he is banned from bringing them home, because all our rooms are slowly being colonized by misfit toys. And L doesn't play with them, she just dumps them on the floor, shifts through them and walks away. I desperately want to get rid of the doll house he brought home, which he swears she plays with when its just the two of them. I think what he does is point her at the doll house and throw a box of doll toys and furniture on the floor near her and then he uses the time she spends shifting through it to check his phone :)

I will have to do a stealth declutter, but the problem is that B will notice that some things are gone - like the exersaucer she hasn't used in 9 months or the stupid doll house or the cart full of cute wood alphabet animals that end up all over the house and under the couch. I should have taken JENNA's advice and not gotten the ball pit, which she just tips over and lets the balls run everywhere, and then loses interest in. It was fun for about a week.

Really, she just likes books, her kitchen, playing with the dog and cats and her dolls and making a mess with food. And her washable markers and art table. We don't have sensory tables etc because I don't want to clean up after the mess.

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Everyone should take my advice about the ball pit and no one ever does!

She's too old now for the exersaucer. Seriously...just get rid of the stuff! L sounds a lot like Reno, they don't need a lot of toys just a few specific ones. The amount of things of Reno's I've gotten rid of is amazing and she has no idea. Miles on the other hand actually plays with all his toys. He will be harder to do this to when he's older.

Keep the dollhouse. There are always toys of Reno's I have to save from Peter throwing them away because she does play with them..just not when he is home. :) Also keeping it will help you get rid of the other stuff!

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 Post subject: Re: Ventilation Station 2.0
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Yes, but what if you're the one who's the problem?

I worry about moving into a bigger space (don't know when that will ever happen, but I hope someday) - I worry that we will just fill it with more crepe. I would like to own like half of what we own now.


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Ariann wrote:
Yes, but what if you're the one who's the problem?

I worry about moving into a bigger space (don't know when that will ever happen, but I hope someday) - I worry that we will just fill it with more crepe. I would like to own like half of what we own now.



This is what has happened to us. We really want to take an assignment in Japan, but it would definitely mean scaling back and probably putting 9/10 of our stuff in storage.


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I put all my stuff in storage one year and moved to HK to live out of a hotel. It was awesome. It definitely encourages a good purge.

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so today im pissed at myself.
i let CHarlotte have "nakey baby time" which is exactly what it sounds like. shes just hanging out with no diaper. she has the diaper under her butt and a couple cloth prefolds in case she pees which happens every once in awhile.
well today i looked over and she had peed when i wasnt looking and all of a sudden a squirt of poop shot out :-(
GROSS!
it went onto the diaper and prefolds so it was easy clean up but yeah........

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Oh, sweetie, wait 'til you have a toddler.

Or an elderly cat, they're giving each other a run for the money these days.


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