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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:54 pm 
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Any ideas for hayfever relief? I've tried CetirizineHCL and Loratadine. The C had no effect at all. I picked up the other when we were on holiday and staying in this old musty house and it worked great. Now that we're home in hayfever land though, it's doing nada. The typical itchy eyes, etc. are there, but I have a nasty cough, chest pain and yesterday/today, some breathing troubles. I'm pretty sure that I can't do this until September, but not sure if there is anything else safe. Still rinsing a lot, drying clothes inside, yada yada.


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Any ideas for hayfever relief? I've tried CetirizineHCL and Loratadine. The C had no effect at all. I picked up the other when we were on holiday and staying in this old musty house and it worked great. Now that we're home in hayfever land though, it's doing nada. The typical itchy eyes, etc. are there, but I have a nasty cough, chest pain and yesterday/today, some breathing troubles. I'm pretty sure that I can't do this until September, but not sure if there is anything else safe. Still rinsing a lot, drying clothes inside, yada yada.

I feel you. I get hayfever pretty bad too. I use loratadine, which manages it to a decent level, but my eyes still end up getting itchy around 6 hours before the next dose is due. I haven't found anything else safe to take either. I try to keep my doors/windows shut (which sucks! it's warm!), but particularly over night. Washing sheets extra. Make sure everyone who sleeps with you has clean/rinsed hair before bed. When I had it super extra bad last year, I talked to my doctor, and there aren't tons of options unfortunately. Benadryl might help? I've never tried it though as it makes you drowsy, and I can't have that when I'm with the kids. I'm worn out enough before taking drowse-inducing medicine, but maybe it could work for you, or like right before bed? I hope you can find something that works!

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I feel for you! I just got a HEPA filter for the bedroom which is helping. Plus lots of eucalyptus oil rubs, fennel tea, reflexology, and mucinex (obvs not the D).

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Yesterday work was CRAZY and although I had brought my pump I didn't get a chance to and I ended up having to stay 2 hours late, so by the time I got home it was only 90 minutes before getting the baby to bed...so only pumped twice yesterday and really wasn't so bad. So today I am not taking my pump to work and I am wearing a REAL bra and a pull over my head dress with a high neckline (totally not pumping wear) I am beyond excited and have nobody to share with - so you lucky people get to hear it all! I am hoping that dropping to 2 pumps per day means the milk will disappear soon as I am so ready to stop pumping for good!


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@bodhi, the doors/windows thing is probably not helping, but for awhile here it's been (unusually) very warm. F's room, even with the double layer of curtain shut was up to 28C one night. We've had to have the windows open some. We were hanging clothes outside but for the past week when it's been really bad, it's tumble dryer all the way :(. I've been showering a lot in the evenings, hoping that helps some too. I hadn't thought about it being on K's head/clothes really. I talked with another mom today who said that the cetirizine only worked for her after 6 or 7 days, my mom said the same thing about loratadine. So, I may give the loratadine another go. Benadryl (the dipenhydramine one) might help, but you're not supposed to take it when breastfeeding except occasionally. If it stays this bad after trying the loratadine again, I might check again on Benadryl's safety. Just looking at KellyMom, it seems that Hale says there are some other L1 drugs to try possibly too. The NHS's site (and I think LLL) says that Cetirizine and Loratadine are the only two recommended because the sedating ones could possibly sedate baby. Oh, I am love love loving the summer, just want to breathe!

Annasrobbie...that sounds wonderful! I'm looking forward to the days of being able to wear whatever you want. :p

For those who've weaned babies before, how long do you think the whole process took? Do you have any good suggestions on cutting back day vs. night, etc.? I'm feeling really so very weary feeding Freya sometimes lately. I'd like to carry on until she's two, which is still about 4 months away, but I've been thinking about how best to approach it with her. She still nurses a good bit, but it's changing a lot just this past week as we seem to be making the transition to 1 nap/day and are out of the house at different times, etc. She asks for milk some every day, but not too often, so yeah....just trying to plan ahead a litttle. We might end up going a bit longer as right after her birthday we'll probably be traveling and have off-schedules, etc.


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Ok, I have a funny weaning story. M is mostly weaned now... He nurses once at bedtime and usually once overnight. With him, I did make a concerted effort to wean him during the daytime because I wanted to stop pumping for him. So what I did, basically, was start trying to distract him when he would sign for milk, offer him food/water instead, etc. And I also just started telling him "no" and that he could nurse at bedtime.

Flash forward a month or two, and he's finally got a verbal word for nursing. What is it?

"No."

So now when he wants to nurse, he signs milk while mewling "no! Nooooo! Nooooooo!"

I can't decide if it's hilarious or awful.

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Ha, Violet's "nur" and "no" aren't very far apart either, which is actually kind of nice in pubic when people think she's just being contrary.


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c&s, that is funny, especially if he does it in the company of others..."noooo" followed by boobie time. Heh.


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I'm thankful that we don't have a word that she uses; she only furiously signs milk so most people think she is just having a weird fussy moment.

It is interesting to keep nursing as her language is getting more sophisticated. I keep wondering if I will be able to get an answer one day to my burning question, "what is so great about this?"


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Heh. F now oftens says some combination of "milk, drink, taste, good, yes, Fey" when she is waiting for me to settle in a seat/undo shirts, etc. Just while we were on vacation, she's started smacking her lips too when the good stuff is coming (she does it for other food too).


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Eli just shouts "abooboooooo!" to me while crying or whining for me to pick him up lol

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Sierra has a "nuh nuh" cry that she uses while tearing at my clothing. Also, I shouldn't complain because its better than pinching or tweaking, but I don't enjoy how she flat-handed SLAPS at one boob while she nurses on the other. It's bizarre. A friend of mine commented "She's trying to tell you this one's almost empty so get the other one ready!", which I dunno about, but it sure makes trying to sleep while nursing impossible.
When I'm off from work and get to put her down for her afternoon nap, I get the room all dark and cosy and lay her down on the bed before getting settled in. I hope I will always always remember how she kicks her legs and squeals with glee/anticipation for the nursing at these times. It reminds me that this is a sweet experience... sometimes ha.


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Audrey, I have heard from fairly legitimate sources that the boob punch/slap/knead is thought to be a purposeful thing to get that side to letdown.

The weird thing about M's "no no!" thing is that I never refer to it as "nursing" with him... with him we've always called it "milkies" (E started that, though he himself referred to them as pew pews, eg the sound of a laser pistol) and he's good at m sounds so that's what I would've expected...

Refinnej, that made me smile about Freya... M also does (signing) milk milk milk while saying "no no no no" and then when I start heading towards the bed (the only place he nurses now) he'll add in "yes, yes, yes" while nodding his head in a very pleased, very scholarly fashion.

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Scarlett doesn't use a word or sign for nursing yet but she has a stare and maniacal laugh that means she wants milk. After not sleeping more than 2 hours in a row for over a year we finally decided to try having her sleep in a crib and have my partner comfort her when she wakes up. We weren't sure how this would work with nursing though since she's used to doing it all night long. Well last night she only woke up 3 times and he was able to get her back asleep easily, so she went like 11 hours without and I was exploding this morning! Does not co-sleeping have to mean night weaning? How do people make that work? She seems to sleep better in her own bed so it makes sense to stick with it, even though it makes me sad.


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Scarlett doesn't use a word or sign for nursing yet but she has a stare and maniacal laugh that means she wants milk. After not sleeping more than 2 hours in a row for over a year we finally decided to try having her sleep in a crib and have my partner comfort her when she wakes up. We weren't sure how this would work with nursing though since she's used to doing it all night long. Well last night she only woke up 3 times and he was able to get her back asleep easily, so she went like 11 hours without and I was exploding this morning! Does not co-sleeping have to mean night weaning? How do people make that work? She seems to sleep better in her own bed so it makes sense to stick with it, even though it makes me sad.

It doesn't have to mean night weaning at all. You can nurse her when she wakes, and then put her back into her bed. If you want to have your partner comforting her, he can pick up her when she wakes, and he can bring her to you to nurse and then take her back to get settled afterward. Or you can go to her, pick her up and nurse, and put her back. (We used to do something similar, but once he woke for his early morning nursing, I'd bring him into my bed. That way I got space/time to sleep without kids, but still got my favourite morning snuggles.)

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how much can caffeine affect the baby?
the LC who ran the bf class we went to when i was pregnant made it sound like so much is filtered out of your breast milk that everything in moderation is ok.

i drink about 2 cups of coffee a day.

BabyPunk is not jittery or irritable or anything like that but homeslice doesnt believe in sleeping.
she doesnt nap during the day, like at all. she might cat nap here and their but not like a real nap.
it took us 3 hours to get her to go to sleep last night.

maybe she;s just a party animal

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I couldn't do any caffeine, including chocolate, for six months or so. It sucked but helped a ton! It really reduced Sven's gas too.


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you couldnt do it cause it kept him awake?

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i should add she sleeps fine if she is on top of you or someone is holding her so that's why im even more confused.

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I also avoid caffeine. I can't tell you if it affected baby's sleep or not. Mine was hell to put down for the first few months.


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it's diabolical. she snoozes like a champ on top of you especially if she has a boob as a pillow and the second you put her in the cosleeper or pack n play her eyes pop open.

on the odd chance you put her down successfully DONT GO CHECK ON HER because all of a sudden she senses your presence and wakes up.
DIABOLICAL!

weaning off coffee and chocolate is going to be ugly but maybe i should give it a go.

but it's summer! I NEED MY ICED COFFEE!!!

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Ezra hasn't nursed in three days.
I have porn star boobs.

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Ugggghhhhh!!! Are they really sore???
I hate that feeling when you feel like your boobs are literally going to explode

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I drank a shiitake ton of coffee with both my kids as babies. One slept really well, one didn't. It can't hurt to cut down on the caffeine and see if it helps, buuuut that's not necessarily the problem.

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