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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 6:39 am 
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My 10 year old dog has the worst teeth. We started to give him Veggie Dent, which are veg hard strips that they can chew to keep teeth clean (like Greenies and about the same pricepoint ($1 a stick)), which our vet recommends. He loves them, but I'm not seeing a big improvement, and I think although it is something, its not enough.

Any other ideas on how to keep his teeth clean? We've tried a lot of things over the years, including grapefruit seed oil-based pastes that don't show much improvement. Probably in part because its so hard to get into his mouth and clean, even though he is a very calm and easy to handle dog. I can get up to his face with no fear but unlocking those jaws is impossible!

Anyone tried baking soda? I'm nervous about hurting the enamel and making it worse....

Any feedback would be deeply appreciated.

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 Post subject: Re: Dog teeth
PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 7:27 am 
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I'm in the same boat, so I'll be watching this thread! Our pup tries to bite me when I try to brush his teeth, so it would be nice to find some kind of chew solution. It seems like the molars are the biggest problem and unfortunately nothing seems to be able to reach all the way back there. I'm taking him to get his teeth cleaned next week so I'll report back if I get any new tips from our vet, but I have a feeling that brushing is the only thing that will really do the trick.

Have you tried those finger tooth brushes? Even if his jaws lock maybe you can still get the outsides of his teeth that way!

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We have the same problem. Orion has always had the worst teeth (at his shelter they only fed them wet food / raw deboned meat, and when he came home his mouth was a huge monolithic buildup of plaque) and the worst breath. We feed him hard chewy treats regularly, but he's not a big chewer so that doesn't lead to much.

Our vet said that getting a professional cleaning is not worth it unless the problem is much worse (they sedate the dog, so there's a risk), but she didn't have any other suggestions.


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 Post subject: Re: Dog teeth
PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:03 am 
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This stuff works great. You just have to put it in their mouth, a dollop on each side towards the back. A store where I used to groom carried it, and the owners documented their dogs' teeth for a few weeks. There was a pretty major difference.

http://www.petedge.com/catalog/product. ... trition-_-{creative}-_-Pet%20Supplies%20Health%20Nutrition_Exact&gclid=CICJo8DZzLUCFQuqnQodslUAJw


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 Post subject: Re: Dog teeth
PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:15 am 
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Done! Ordering it! Thanks creep! I wish that that site didn't charge you $6.99 if you order less than $60, plus a delivery fee of $10, so a $16 item becomes a $32 dollar one. But I guess that even if it is a bit pricey, its a lot cheaper than a doggy cleaning with sedation.

Do you have any experience with peroxide and baking soda pastes, just out of curiosity?

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 Post subject: Re: Dog teeth
PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:48 am 
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Just found it on Amazon for $17!

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 Post subject: Re: Dog teeth
PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:43 pm 
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I wouldn't use anything but a product formulated for animals on their teeth. And I highly doubt a baking soda paste is going to help your dog unlock his jaws.

Brushing is the absolute best. I prefer the finger toothbrushes, some people prefer the super long handled toothbrushes, find what's best for you, but using a toothpaste they like the taste of helps a lot. Even if you can only get the outside of his teeth, it is better than nothing.

Some people find products like the one creep suggested helpful, I personally didn't find it all that effective, but i did use a different one. Tungsten's teeth were gorgeous when he was on a raw diet and regularly had bones to munch and since stopping that they're definitely not as beautiful..... But I doubt many here would be comfortable going that route.

Also, some vet clinics offer descaling, scraping off the excess tartar without sedation, but obviously only some dogs will stand for that and it's not a substitution for a true cleaning.

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 Post subject: Re: Dog teeth
PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:23 pm 
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Yeah, I would stick to dog-specific formulations. Dog toothpastes use enzymes versus abrasion. If you can use a finger toothbrush to rub enzyme toothpaste on the cheek surfaces of his teeth, it's better than nothing. Amos's breath is pretty gross because he won't let me near him with any sort of tooth cleaning paraphernalia. He's good with crunchy treats for a couple months after a teeth cleaning, but then all bets are off.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:13 pm 
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If the teeth are really bad, a thorough cleaning under anesthesia is the only way to get them truly clean. The vet can scrape tartar off without putting them under, but that doesn't get under the gumline, where the real problem usually is. Once they've been cleaned, it's easier to maintain with brushing and chews.

When you brush a doggie's teeth, you do not have to open their jaws. The important part to brush is the outsides of their teeth. I'm not sure why, but the inner portions do not usually get plaque buildup. Just get a doggie toothpaste (I use peanut butter or vanilla flavor) and hold the brush at a 45 degree angle to the gumline as you brush. Dog toothpaste actually doesn't actually do much for the teeth; it's the brushing action that gets the plaque off. The toothpaste is just to get the dog to accept the toothbrush in their mouth more readily.

Tegan gets one paragon chew a day: http://www.amazon.com/Paragon-Hedgehog-Dental-Dog-Chew/dp/B004WBZ47C along with getting her teeth brushed, and her the slight plaque she had when we got her is gone.


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 Post subject: Re: Dog teeth
PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:19 pm 
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The vet doesn't think it makes sense to clean Cuddles' teeth, so I'm trying to manage it with other things.

These are the Veggiedent Chews we were recommended: http://www.amazon.com/C-E-T-VeggieDent- ... B001P3PR5Y They are half the price on Amazon than they are at our vets.... The hedgehogs you recommend are so much cuter!

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:34 pm 
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They have alligators, too, but the hedgehogs last longer. Tegan is obsessed with them. I just wish they were cheaper!


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 Post subject: Re: Dog teeth
PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:52 pm 
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why doesnt the vet think it makes sense to do a cleaning? is it her age?

i would have said toothbrush cleaning and a professional cleaning but those dont seem to be an option.

we brush the dogs teeth most nights and one of them had a professional cleaning last June when he had a tooth extraction.
his teeth look great and the brushing helps but his breath is still NASTY

the other dog needs a pro tooth cleaning but his level of fear of the vet is far too high. i did talk to them and they said they could work it where i drop him off and put him under immediately but i dunno. i dont want to tramatize him.

does Cuddles like to chew on toys? just regular chewing can sometimes help. just be careful of how hard stuff is. we realized last summer when we had to go to the dental specialist that the dental toys we had were on the BAD LIST.

for Xmas we bought two of these.
http://www.amazon.com/West-Paw-Design-Zogoflex-Durable/dp/B005GYLXRY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1361656145&sr=8-1&keywords=tizzy+dog+toy

one dog could care less about it and the other likes to play with it and chews it because he is trying to get the nubs on the "feet" off.
that's our 50 lbs hound mix and he managed to get one of the nubs off so if Cuddles is a powerful chewer i might not recommend it but something to chew on if she likes to chew can help.

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 Post subject: Re: Dog teeth
PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:45 pm 
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Just popped in for an update! We got the Petzlife gel, and it seems to be working. His teeth are noticeably whiter - not white by a long stretch but we've been using it for a month (not religiously) and can definitely see an improvement. He used to have a weird shelf of plaque and that is gone. And his breath is nice and minty, and no longer smells like a foxhole. Its really easy to put on too - We do it before our daughter brushes her teeth, and our daughter loves it. Our dog tolerates it just fine.

Thank you creep for the recommendation!

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 Post subject: Re: Dog teeth
PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:12 am 
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Sorry, just now checking back here! Yeah, PetEdge sucks for ordering if you're not getting a massive amount of crepe for a business, basically. I'm a groomer and still avoid ordering from them if I can find something somewhere else, or I have the owner of the business order my stuff with their orders. I know you already bought it, but I think you can get it directly from the manufacturer if you end up needing to buy more.


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 Post subject: Re: Dog teeth
PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 6:08 am 
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I love the product so much! Thank you so much for recommending it creep. I checked again today and Cuddles' teeth have gone from black and jagged to light beige and smooth. It is amazing. I wish I'd done before and after pictures. His breath is also so much better. I am going to mention it to our vet , because this stuff is amazing and so easy to use. I got it through Amazon and it was about $25 and you use so little its a great price. Plus, this has saved us a cleaning and the risks of putting him under.

YAY!!!!!

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:13 am 
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Chester's dental health is like the only thing I'm proud of in my life. Every time we go to the vet they say it looks like I brush his teeth after every meal. I've never brushed that dog's teeth in my life, he must do it on his own time.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:30 am 
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Maggie has that, she is guessed to be much younger than she is based on her teeth. Winston though has horrible teeth. We clean his teeth a few times per week with an enzymatic cleaner but I also order that Petzlife thing to try on them.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:20 pm 
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Ok I'm going to give this a shot too. I feel like a bad dog-mom because we can't afford to take Rhodie in for a teeth cleaning right now. All of his teeth are pearly white except the rear molars, which have a terrible plaque shelf. We're working on brushing his teeth but he tries to bite me every time and he bites HARD. High strung dog is high strung!

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:29 pm 
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I really like that you just have to get a dollop in on either side. No brushing required. Honestly, the results are pretty amazing. He had massive tartar build-up, which looked like a shelf on one tooth, and it is gone. This was one of the best $20 I've ever spent. Seriously, his breath is so much better too.

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I am definitely going to try this stuff based on your recommendations. We have 2 dogs that both have sad teeth. We've had the sheltie's cleaned once when we got him (like $600??) And a year later they were back just as bad. The mutt needs hers done too. Neither will tolerate brushing. This sounds worth a try.


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Here it is on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/PetzLife-Peppermi ... l+care+gel

I can't recommend it highly enough. I've been using it regularly and the difference it makes is amazing.

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ooh! i'll have to pick that up. sadie's teeth aren't horrible, but her breath is. we actually helped kickstart the orapup (by the makers of orabrush) she seriously loves it. unfortunately it only lasts a few days. (she licks her butt a lot)

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OK, I'm ordering some from amazon. Amos won't let me brush his teeth but I might be able to squeeze a dollop of goo back there.

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Hey all you wonderful posters on here who actually not only came up with REAL help but also followed up with the ANSWERS. Now I too will be buying the product from Amazon first thing next month. This PetzLife Oral Care Gel is what I am talking about. Sure hope it works for my 2 Goldens!!! You recommend the gel over the spray? I hope Creep and Tofulish are still getting good results from using this product. And that you guys see this post. Thank you very much I will come back in end of July 2013 and let everyone know how it is working for me too.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:56 am 
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I know this is an old thread, but anyone who's looking for a cheap way to clean doggy teeth, raw carrots are awesome. My dog forking loves them -- but she is a bit weird. They scrape off a certain amount of plaque, but also they can help neutralise bad mouth acid things.

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