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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 11:16 am 
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i think you bake sometimes right?? there are tons of recipes for homemade dog treats online and even books. im not sure you could find a book with solely vegan dog treats but there are plenty of recipes online that would probably be vegan. i know ive made my dogs cookies a few times but we typically just buy treats. even though the dogs arent vegan i typically buy them peanut butter ones to cut down on the gross out (for me) factor and cut down on the animals im feeding them.



Just for the record, there is a book with vegan dog biscuits. I have tried a couple and my dog loves them...and it makes so many that I was giving them away to friends too. It's called "For the Love of Dog Biscuits". It's not a big book, only one recipe tailored to each month of the year, but it's a really cute book. :)

https://www.amazon.com/Love-Dog-Biscuit ... g+biscuits


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So cute! Thank you -- that's going on my Amazon wishlist.

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both dogs have a regular collar for their tags. they each have an ID tag, their rabies tag, and their dog license. they almost never wear their collars. the only time i put them on them is when they go to my parents house while we're away or if we go away and take them with us.

they both have a harness we use to walk them because they both pull on the leash.
we have two of these
https://www.amazon.com/Sporn-No-Pulling-Control-Harness-Large/dp/B003SLB0DO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1471481306&sr=8-2&keywords=sporn+harness

i also have one of these for our hound mix. i only use it for nose work though so im not sure if it would be good for pulling on walks but i imagine it would be
https://www.amazon.com/ComfortFlex-Sport-Harness-Medium-Bordeaux/dp/B00LA9YGH8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1471481695&sr=8-2&keywords=comfort+flex+harness

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 Post subject: Re: First time dog owner tips
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a couple other things you may want to think about in terms of finances and vet care is vaccines and heartworm meds and tick/flea stuff

puppies need a lot of shots. ive never had a puppy so im not even going to pretend i know what they need.

for adults dogs rabies is a must. i believe it depends on where you live but i believe the rule here in MA is the dog needed two doses of the rabies vaccine (i cant remember how far apart it was) and then you only needed it every 3 years.

my dogs get all their other yearly shots.
distemper is one
i live in the northeast US where lyme disease is a huge problem so my dogs both get a lyme vax every year.
i feel like there may be one more that i cant think of (?)

i dont do the kennel cough/bordatella vax. one of the dogs used to get it when we would board him occasionally but we dont board him anymore so i dont bother. it's an infectious disease spread through contact with other dogs and my dogs really dont have actual contact with other dogs.

we do a monthly heartworm pill and the one we use is called Heartgard though i believe there are others.
we also do a yearly heartworm test that also includes checking for tick borne diseases like lyme and anaplasmosis

we've never had issues with fleas but like i said ticks are a huge problem here and we used to use Frontline which is a topical but it doesnt work anymore and i hate the topical stuff. now we use a monthly pill called Nexgard that seems to work well. it's more expensive than the frontline was but it seems to work. i only give it to them the months when ticks are out which depends on the weather (so it's a bit of a guessing game). but basically i dont give it to them in the winter and i dont give it to them in the hottest part of the summer (like right now) because ticks arent out.

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 Post subject: Re: First time dog owner tips
PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 12:46 pm 
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Thanks! Lots of things to consider. We have a vet in our 'hood picked out -- the one we take our cats to in our area is just a cats-only clinic, so that wouldn't do. But there's a really great one around the corner that's super highly recommended to me by local folks.

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 Post subject: Re: First time dog owner tips
PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 3:36 pm 
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I wrote a big long thing about collars the other day and apparently it didn't take. Darn.

Basically your options are flat collars, martingale collars, flat harnesses, and then particular kinds of body and head harnesses that you're only going to have on while walking. Each type has its merits and totally depend on whatever dog you have, and where you put tags will change depending on those things too. So you're probably not going to put tags on a harness but both a flat collar and martingale collar can accommodate them. On a flat collar you put the tags on the d-ring, and on the martingales there's usually a separate ring.

Heartworm is a bit of a sticky subject for me - after some research and talking to my vet I follow a slightly different protocol with it. I use revolution every 45 days and only during true heartworm season. My vet is very supportive of it.

Basically, the weather has to be consistently about 13 degrees celsius for 14 days straight for the larvae to get to the L3 stage - the phase where it can be passed on to dogs. 30-45 days after that time is when you need to start treating, because heartworm prevention is actually killing active infections. The clinic I used to work for started pumping people to buy their heartworm meds in May and, at least around here, that is totally unnecessary. I can't speak to the weather where you live and how much the climate differs, but when you are getting to that point this is just something to keep in mind. Now, if you want to use the revolution every 30 days to protect from other buggies, that's a totally different thing. And if you plan on doing any significant traveling with said pooch, that also changes things, especially if you are heading south at all.

Lately February has been billed as Dental Health month, so save any cleanings for then as that's when clinics are usually running specials, unless it's a dire situation. If you get a larger dog that is healthy enough, consider having them become a blood donor - my clinic gives you free vaccines and yearly blood work if you do. Sign up for whatever new dog or puppy packages they have available. Ask if they have an annual health plan or similar. Find out pricing for things like nail trims, ear cleanings, anal gland expressions, etc, that don't need a full exam but that you might need help with occasionally, depending on your dog. It might be worth it to you to get those services elsewhere. Don't be afraid to have a couple of clinics in your pocket and have records shared between them, in case you have a situation that requires an ASAP appointment but not necessarily a visit to the emergency clinic.

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 Post subject: Re: First time dog owner tips
PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 11:25 pm 
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Amos wears a collar with his tags (the same 4 that Bigby wears) and once in awhile I just snap the leash on the same D-ring, but usually I put a harness on him for walks because he pulls.

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Yeah collar is best just for tags, not for walking. I mean, if you are quite sure the dog is never going to pull, then it doesn't really matter - but pulling on the collar can actually do long-term damage to their throats. It's best to get a harness. I prefer a front-clipping harness (where you attach the leash to the front of the chest rather than on their back, it makes it much harder for them to pull).

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 Post subject: Re: First time dog owner tips
PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 7:48 am 
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Thanks guys, sounds like a harness is the best idea for walkies.

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 Post subject: Re: First time dog owner tips
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Thanks guys, sounds like a harness is the best idea for walkies.


Not always, and not all harnesses are equal. A large dog that pulls can't wear a typical harness, it just helps them pull - think huskies dragging a sled. For those dogs you want a front leading harness that restricts somewhat. But you may have a dog that is leash destructive, and a front leading harness and leash will be gone really quickly. Then you might need a head harness. For a smaller dog a regular harness that clips at the back can be fine.

Mona the greyhound doesn't pull and wears a wide martingale collar - harnesses that fit sight hounds are hard to find and often not necessary. Tungsten wears a head harness because he sometimes wears a backpack with a bit of weight to help him tire out. The chihuahuas wear standard, H style harnesses. Step in harnesses are nice but some dogs can get out really easily and you don't have a safety connection to their collar if they do.

Don't get too signed up for any particular gear until your dog is picked - the rescue and your trainer will probably make good suggestions for your dogs particular needs.

/end rant. I've seen way too many people being literally dragged by their large breed dogs wearing harnesses.

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 Post subject: Re: First time dog owner tips
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Re: Harnesses

I do think you need to figure out what works for you and your dog, and that's different for everybody! My parent's dog had a gentle leader at one point (goes over the snout), because when we took him to obedience school, the trainer swore up and down that it was the best thing out there, for EVERY DOG. Well my dog hated it. He wouldn't walk. Our neighbors would literally point and laugh at us attempting to move up the street as he dragged his face along the ground in an effort to remove the offending contraption, or jammed his nose between our legs to try and scratch the itch. My parents eventually got him a back attached harness, which worked out great.

When I got my dog two years ago, I decided we were going to do the world's best leash training from the second I brought him home, and I would never need anything but a collar. That MOSTLY worked, except when he sees something exciting, and then IT DIDN'T. Another dog owner reccomended the "easy walk harness" which clips in front. It works PERFECTLY, and out walks are awesome. I've been using it for a year and a half, very happily.

A couple weeks ago, another girl at a different dog park took it upon herself to advise me that she's an expert, since she's taken a course, and harnesses are bad for dogs, because they irritate them at the "armpit" joint. She informed me I HAVE to buy a choke collar. I kindly thanked her for her advise, and said I'll stick with the method that works for me and my pup.


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 Post subject: Re: First time dog owner tips
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Poppy loves cat poo, even better if it's diarrhoea.

I had a beagle named Poppy and she loved cat poo. I dunno what it is but beagles and cat poo, yeah. We referred to them as "kitty crunchies" when finding evidence on the floor and sometimes even on the couch.

This is the sort of behavior people are not likely to ever correct so instead of trying to correct it just doggy-proof all the cat boxes with cheap wood from the cull bin at the hardware store and some enthusiasm and creativity. Get some big flat wide pieces of wood all the same size and cut the corner out of one of them, use small but long pieces of wood to run where all the joints of the flat wide pieces would touch, use some screws or nails and maybe even glue or tape, and then frankenstein that thing together! Down with kitty crunchies!

This might sound odd but I suggest have several different leashes and perhaps even have them at several different lengths. You will use them. Different people will walk dogs differently and it's good to have options. Also, sometimes you'll even find yourself in a situation where you'll want to have an extra dog leash.

When a stray dog runs by you, if it will let you pet them (they think you have a snack) and they have a collar on, clipping a leash could literally save that dogs life. The way that everyone will always tell you in public to have more than 1 poop bag ready at all times, have more than 1 leash ready for use at all times. Usually you just use the spare when your dog rolls in something and gets the leash all gross... but there's gonna be that time when you have it on you and you use it and you are someone's hero. Give it enough years, it'll happen.


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My dog was all about stealing the cat's poo from the litter box when I brought him home. I ended up just moving it up on the top of the closet. The cat can get up there no problem ---- and he can't. Problem solved.

I've also caught and brought dogs that got out back to their home a couple times. I pretty much always go out with some rope these days...just in case.

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have more than 1 poop bag ready at all times

I just wanted to highlight that this is some GREAT advice.

Also, we keep leashes, poop bags, and small water dishes in both cars at all times.

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Bigby always poops twice!

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Nicole wrote:
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have more than 1 poop bag ready at all times

I just wanted to highlight that this is some GREAT advice.

Also, we keep leashes, poop bags, and small water dishes in both cars at all times.


Oohhh, that's a good idea!

I'm planning on getting Finn an easy walk harness tomorrow when we go to the store together--I'm just not sure what size he needs, so I don't want to buy until I have him with me. So, walking through the store in just his collar and a leash is going to be okay, I hope. (I think so.)

I've been researching SO MUCH about house training, and I think I'm going to try some clicker training. It seems really reasonable, and I am in support of any training that is based on positive reinforcement and no physical discipline or anger.

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I don't believe you until there is a Welcome Finn thread with lots of photos.

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Yes! Clicker training is the greatest. Positive reinforcement is really the only way to go. Watch kikopup. She definitely has videos on house training. She's amazing.

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I didn't stick with clicker training as much as I should have, but a tip that could be helpful at some point -- mimic the sound of the clicker with your tongue every once in a while and let it have the same result as if you had the clicker, so you can do the clicky noise if you find yourself without the clicker and need him to do a thing.


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We also use the word good when Bigby dues something right so he gets a treat whenever we say it so we don't need the clicker all the time.

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Does anyone have experience with adenovirus in dogs? A dog I am interested in has some interesting history, this is what the adoption agency said:

"The litter was exposed to adenovirus, prior to their rescue. ARF has done extensive monitoring, as well as urinalysis (and bloodwork on Checkers). The puppies appear to be the picture of health, and although no one can be sure, we don't anticipate any long term impact on the pups, but the adenovirus vaccine is the best way to ensure all dogs are protected during interaction for the remainder of this year. In keeping with our honesty policy we do encourage adopters to discuss this with their own veterinarian prior to welcoming the pup."

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fwiw, here she is: http://www.arfontario.com/project/checkers/

Her puppy eyes. gah.

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i dont know anything about adenovirus, just googling it it seems to be hepatitus in dogs.

i guess maybe call the vet you are thinking of taking her to and tell them you are thinking of adopting a puppy and bringing her to them for care and you have been told the puppy was exposed to adenovirus and what do they recommend/think about that/im not sure what to ask.

according to petmd.com (the first link that comes up when you google it) it's not something they have for life (????)

"In a healthy dog with an adequate antibody response, the viral cells will clear the organs in 10 to 14 days, but will remain localized in the kidneys, where the virus will continue to be shed in the urine for 6 to 9 months."

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http://www.petmd.com/dog/conditions/infectious-parasitic/c_dg_canine_hepatitis

so really all i have to say is she is adorable and looks labby and i love labs so SQUEEEEEE
also i think the name Checkers is super sweet so you should keep it!

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I just signed up with the first dog walker that I met of the three I was going to meet. Is that crazy? I just really liked her, liked her Yelp reviews (don't have reviews on the others), she was great with my pup, and I just felt really comfortable and confident with having her work with him. She put me at ease, even in our pre-meeting communications, whereas the others have left me feeling a little anxious. So... I hope this was not a bad idea. I can't work from home for more than this week, so I gotta get him in dog walkies next week!

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I've called the awesome vet we will be using for whatever dog we adopt and they talked me through it and are printing off a bunch of material for me to read. It sounds like it's a thing that is easily transmittable while the virus is active, but eventually goes away, and worst case we'd have to keep her away from other dogs for a couple months.

I'll keep you guys posted!

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