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 Post subject: Re: Instead of reddit - or as a complement
PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 6:09 pm 
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To start out the easiest thing might be to change your default displays for comments AND threads to new.


How do you change the default display for threads?

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I just book marked the new tab and use the bookmark, you can also change the comment preferences in the menu on the right upper hand.



Thanks for all of your help with getting people used the Redditing, B.A.D.

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 Post subject: Re: Instead of reddit - or as a complement
PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 6:14 pm 
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Personally, I don't see preserving this one with its existing content as an option. You'd have to convince Isa to release the content to whoever and since she wants to create her own site to direct people to, I'm not sure that'd fly.


I doubt that it's a question of funds (Isa realizes she could crowdsource funds, I'm sure) or a question of help (I am certain if she just needed more mods, people would volunteer). Things have changed for Isa (for the better) since 2006 since I joined the PPK. I don't think she made this decision lightly or has not thought about options. In the end, it's her site and her board.

Lina is working with others on taking some of the useful, practical content to Reddit on a Wiki. FB allows for chatting and commenting. All of the professional librarian groups I'm in are on FB (we do have some list servs, believe it or not).

Setting up a new board is a quixotic option open to whomever wanted to try.

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 Post subject: Re: Instead of reddit - or as a complement
PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 6:47 pm 
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Vantine wrote:
Setting up a new board is a quixotic option open to whomever wanted to try.


Nice! I love quixotic!

Also, folks who are denouncing Reddit never having used it, give it a try.

Folks who dipped toes into Reddit but state they don’t like it, give it another try.

We are conditioned to not like change and I count myself among this. We also go through the range of feelings when getting bad news: Noooo! Denial! This can’t happen, and we cycle through until we get to: Acceptance.

I’ve seen this happen with any new iteration of software. “I liked it better before” — well, let’s all get to know Reddit and keep a vibrant community intact.

As for non-facebookers, I totally agree there. FB is a gold mine of data and drama. I mainly opt out of that.

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 Post subject: Re: Instead of reddit - or as a complement
PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 7:35 pm 
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Vantine wrote:


Setting up a new board is a quixotic option open to whomever wanted to try.


How often do you get to use that word? But yes, I agree.

And yeah apparently reddit has some bad reputation, that I wasn't really aware of. I know a ton of people who use it with no issue. It does feel strange just because it is different but that should pass.

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 Post subject: Re: Instead of reddit - or as a complement
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I was not thinking about transferring it (which could be hard since it's not "our" content) but starting a new phpBB board somewhere with a similar structure as this. With the normal board structure (which I personally much prefer to the rather chaotic reddit structure).


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 Post subject: Re: Instead of reddit - or as a complement
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Vantine wrote:
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Personally, I don't see preserving this one with its existing content as an option. You'd have to convince Isa to release the content to whoever and since she wants to create her own site to direct people to, I'm not sure that'd fly.


I doubt that it's a question of funds (Isa realizes she could crowdsource funds, I'm sure) or a question of help (I am certain if she just needed more mods, people would volunteer). Things have changed for Isa (for the better) since 2006 since I joined the PPK. I don't think she made this decision lightly or has not thought about options. In the end, it's her site and her board.

Lina is working with others on taking some of the useful, practical content to Reddit on a Wiki. FB allows for chatting and commenting. All of the professional librarian groups I'm in are on FB (we do have some list servs, believe it or not).

Setting up a new board is a quixotic option open to whomever wanted to try.


Yes, we do not need more mods. Most of what we do these days is deleting and banning spam - since it's not as busy as it once was (and in general people seem less confrontational), we pretty much never have to enforce rules or tell people to Shuttest The Forsooth Up!. Why, I think i've only driven one person off the boards in the last year! I'm getting soft*.

Please respect Isa's decision. Nothing lasts forever. Obviously anyone is welcome to make a free message board if they don't want to get on reddit, or facebook, or anything else but quite a few people rose to the task of setting up this new space and gathering info from here, and continually saying 'let's make a new board' makes me feel like their efforts are being ignored.

*Also forgetful, I can't even remember who annoys me or why anymore. Who are all of you people?

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 Post subject: Re: Instead of reddit - or as a complement
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... quite a few people rose to the task of setting up this new space and gathering info from here, and continually saying 'let's make a new board' makes me feel like their efforts are being ignored.

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Sorry if I contributed to you feeling like that, saying I'd be willing to chip in if that were an option. I can see the majority opinion is that it is not and I am very appreciative of your effort and that of others in setting up new spaces.

I'm slowly getting used to Reddit now (I think... although I seem to keep missing when new threads start on there), and will have to remember to check Instagram more often for all the new PPKer accounts I've started following there.

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 Post subject: Re: Instead of reddit - or as a complement
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I knew this forum was in trouble when I noticed the other day (prior to the announcement) that the Foyer hadn't had any posts in 24 hours, which I don't think I've ever seen before. I've been part of forums in the past where splinter groups decided to make their own forums and those forums died out within a year or 2 but they served the purpose for the people at the time. I'm just cranky at the moment and I think if you want to go, just go, make a new forum, post the link here and stop trying to discuss it.

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 Post subject: Re: Instead of reddit - or as a complement
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I didn't mean disrespect to Isa's wishes or the efforts of those who set up the Reddit. I am grateful to you all. I think it was good to discuss this for a while so we could get a clearer idea of the situation and of what people wished. Now it is confirmed that a supply of money and time is not the issue, and we see most people are fine with Reddit, then I am ready to let the idea drop.

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 Post subject: Re: Instead of reddit - or as a complement
PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:29 am 
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mrsbadmouth wrote:
Vantine wrote:
linanil wrote:
Personally, I don't see preserving this one with its existing content as an option. You'd have to convince Isa to release the content to whoever and since she wants to create her own site to direct people to, I'm not sure that'd fly.


I doubt that it's a question of funds (Isa realizes she could crowdsource funds, I'm sure) or a question of help (I am certain if she just needed more mods, people would volunteer). Things have changed for Isa (for the better) since 2006 since I joined the PPK. I don't think she made this decision lightly or has not thought about options. In the end, it's her site and her board.

Lina is working with others on taking some of the useful, practical content to Reddit on a Wiki. FB allows for chatting and commenting. All of the professional librarian groups I'm in are on FB (we do have some list servs, believe it or not).

Setting up a new board is a quixotic option open to whomever wanted to try.



Yes, we do not need more mods. Most of what we do these days is deleting and banning spam - since it's not as busy as it once was (and in general people seem less confrontational), we pretty much never have to enforce rules or tell people to Shuttest The Forsooth Up!. Why, I think i've only driven one person off the boards in the last year! I'm getting soft*.

Please respect Isa's decision. Nothing lasts forever. Obviously anyone is welcome to make a free message board if they don't want to get on reddit, or facebook, or anything else but quite a few people rose to the task of setting up this new space and gathering info from here, and continually saying 'let's make a new board' makes me feel like their efforts are being ignored.

*Also forgetful, I can't even remember who annoys me or why anymore. Who are all of you people?


You need a pillow with Shuttest The Forsooth Up! embroidered on it. I should get on that. Who are all of you people? should be on the back.

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 Post subject: Re: Instead of reddit - or as a complement
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Minatomachi wrote:
I didn't mean disrespect to Isa's wishes or the efforts of those who set up the Reddit. I am grateful to you all. I think it was good to discuss this for a while so we could get a clearer idea of the situation and of what people wished. Now it is confirmed that a supply of money and time is not the issue, and we see most people are fine with Reddit, then I am ready to let the idea drop.


I agree to be honest. Isa's announcement took many of us by surprise, especially those of us who maybe are newer members and didn't see this coming. It's understandable to have a discussion on what's next and I really don't think anyone meant to disrespect Isa's - or anyone else's - wishes. Just, as can be gathered from the huge outburst of comments recently, this place was like home for so many people and has been for a long time, and it's totally natural to grasp for ways to preserve such a much loved place. No disrespect or anything was ever meant, I'm sure.

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