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 Post subject: Seitan with quick rise yeast??
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:40 pm 
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Maybe it's just me but I had never heard of this. While searching on Youtube I came across a video for vegan fried chicken and the woman used quick rise yeast,gluten flour,spices,and water. She kneaded it,left it to rise for a while then broke pieces off,dipped it in broth until it puffed up,floured and fried it. Looked amazing but I have never made seitan with anything other than nutritional yeast. Just curious if anyone else has used this method before.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:53 pm 
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Link?

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 Post subject: Re: Seitan with quick rise yeast??
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Yeah, i'd llike to see that too. Anything new is interesting! (Or maybe it's not new - I haven't made seitan much.)


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 Post subject: Re: Seitan with quick rise yeast??
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:09 pm 
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here ya go...wasn't sure if I was supposed to link here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS3DfBNLRtU


and FYI her instructions are kinda iffy so I emailed her and specifically asked about the type of yeast...and she said quick rise


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Interesting. I wish there was a before/after shot of letting the dough sit, because I wouldn't imagine vital wheat gluten to have much that yeast could eat.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:20 pm 
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mel c wrote:
Interesting. I wish there was a before/after shot of letting the dough sit, because I wouldn't imagine vital wheat gluten to have much that yeast could eat.

I was thinking a tbs per cup sounded like a lot...hmmm this intrigues me though because it looks crispy and delicious. I got a deep fryer for Christmas and need to break it in!!


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 Post subject: Re: Seitan with quick rise yeast??
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:22 pm 
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The frying part definitely looks delicious! I just wonder if you'd get a similar result with only vwg and seasoning.


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What the what what what?!?!

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I am seriously intrigued. Did she get all of that from 1 cup of vwg? If so, that is crazy sauce. I definitely need to try this.

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Dang. That's like some kind of outsider cooking. I've never seen a seitan recipe with any kind of leavening, but it makes so much sense! (At least superficially, but still!)

I'm fascinated to try this sometime.

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Except that yeast produce carbon dioxide (and hence leavening) by metabolizing carbohydrates, and there's not much in your typical vital wheat gluten. I'm confuzzled.

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Joliepolie wrote:
mel c wrote:
Interesting. I wish there was a before/after shot of letting the dough sit, because I wouldn't imagine vital wheat gluten to have much that yeast could eat.

I was thinking a tbs per cup sounded like a lot...hmmm this intrigues me though because it looks crispy and delicious. I got a deep fryer for Christmas and need to break it in!!


I know vital wheat gluten will definitely rise if you put instant yeast in it. I use wheat gluten to bake low carb bread for my boyfriend and it rises like crazy. On the package of my wheat gluten, it says it still has 10 grams of starch per 100 grams, and apparently the yeast can live on that just fine. I think the bread recipe uses about a teaspoon of yeast per cup of gluten, and it get very nice and fluffy.

Maybe the 'chicken' in the video is something like these Chinese fried gluten balls. This Dutch website shows one cut in half, and it's quite fluffy inside, with lots of little air bubbles.

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 Post subject: Re: Seitan with quick rise yeast??
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:23 am 
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So did anyone give this a try? I had to return my fryer for a new one and it is taking forever to get here.


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This is so cool. I just got my first bag of vital wheat gluten (you have to get it online here in the UK for some reason, le sigh). I'm gonna add this to my list of things to do with it.


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I'm not gonna try this (as it seems really weird), but I'm very interested to see what eventuates if others do :P


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Any updates from someone who did try the quick rise method?


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I'm trying this RIGHT NOW!


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Seitan with yeast sounds suspiciously like bread...


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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2015 7:14 am 
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It's like very bready seitan. I might even do it again, with a little more caution this time. I roasted it instead of steaming it, which I think was a mistake as it's a bit crusty. The inside has a good texture, though.

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