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 Post subject: High-calorie, nutrient dense sauce recipes please!
PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:32 pm 
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I have mostly lurked on these and the old boards but am hoping the PPK might have some good ideas for me!

I need some sauce ideas for a chemotherapy patient. The dietitian suggested putting gravy, butter, and cheese on everything but I am hoping the PPK has some other ideas.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:46 pm 
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How about some nut pestos? You can even add a bit of protein powder.

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 Post subject: Re: High-calorie, nutrient dense sauce recipes please!
PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:54 pm 
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Sounds great. Can you recommend a recipe? I have only made basil pesto with pine nuts before.

I was also thinking about trying something like a cashew cream.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:01 pm 
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peanut sauce for noodles/rice/veggies etc?

http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/the-best-t ... etail.aspx


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 Post subject: Re: High-calorie, nutrient dense sauce recipes please!
PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:08 pm 
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I usually need recipes for things, but pesto is easy to make my taste. You can use any nut and any green or combination.

Pistachio and arugula is good; walnut and spinach; add some olive oil, lemon juice, maybe some nooch, a bit of garlic, fresh or dried herbs and blend it all up. Google around and get some ideas!

I'm mostly boring, so I don't have any good specific recipes.

For basic proportions, I usually use the Ligurian pesto recipe from Vegan Italiano.

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 Post subject: Re: High-calorie, nutrient dense sauce recipes please!
PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:11 pm 
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I will definitely try the peanut sauce!!

I keep thinking something with avocados would be good but he doesn't like them so....


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:17 pm 
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Thanks for the pesto ideas. I would never have thought of pistachios. I don't have Vegan Italiano but I will try using the pesto in Vcon for basic proportions.

This cashew cream sauce looks good to me but I am not sure I will be able to get it smooth enough without a vitamix. I just have a regular blender.
http://www.carrieonvegan.com/2011/04/01 ... eam-sauce/

Thanks so much for the ideas!


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 Post subject: Re: High-calorie, nutrient dense sauce recipes please!
PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:19 am 
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Regular blender could work, just make sure you soak the cashews for a good long while (go for overnight) and expect to leave your blender whirrin' away on high for 5–10 minutes.

Vegetable and mushroom gravy? Chickpea gravy? Hummus with lots of olive oil? Veg poutine for breakfast?


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:24 am 
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efmac wrote:
Regular blender could work, just make sure you soak the cashews for a good long while (go for overnight) and expect to leave your blender whirrin' away on high for 5–10 minutes.

Vegetable and mushroom gravy? Chickpea gravy? Hummus with lots of olive oil? Veg poutine for breakfast?


It will work just fine. I made basaltic dressing tonight and decided to be lazy and made it in my little Cuisineart chopper instead of the big food processor, and it got almost as smooth as usual. I only soaked my cashews for an hour, so definitely doing it longer would help.

When I had to be on an easy to eat, nutrient and protein dense diet, I added protein powder to shakes, mashed potatoes, refried beans, vegetable soup, etc. These days, there are some pretty good flavorless varieties that don't cost the Earth.

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 Post subject: Re: High-calorie, nutrient dense sauce recipes please!
PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:34 am 
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I make it with my hand blender, which means standing around tapping my foot and holding down the whrrrrrr button for about five minutes before my patience runs out. Still, it gets pretty smooth.

Also, refried beans?


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 Post subject: Re: High-calorie, nutrient dense sauce recipes please!
PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:42 am 
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I second chickpea gravy. You could sneak in a pound of nooch and protein powder and I'd still eat it off the floor.

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 Post subject: Re: High-calorie, nutrient dense sauce recipes please!
PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:09 am 
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You may want to check what food restrictions apply. People who are neutropenic shouldn't eat any fresh foods that can't be peeled (which would nix herbs and salad-type ingredients in a pesto, unless you're going to cook it), and are also frequently told not to eat any reheated food (so making food in bulk is out, too).

You can also make thick gravies from chickpea flour, and I've made stews from roasted and pureed pumpkin seeds before, using the recipe in World Vegetarian Classics by Celia Brooks Brown.

Also, I know from experience that caring for someone going through chemotherapy can be stressful, so don't forget to feed yourself! I hope it goes well for your friend.

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 Post subject: Re: High-calorie, nutrient dense sauce recipes please!
PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:18 am 
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be sure not to feed them anything too distinct in the first few days after treatment. keep flavours very dull/bland in that period, as the mind associations between the food/flavour/smell and nausea persist for a long time. and anything even mildly acidic will do nothing for an already-raw stomach without a lining (so, be careful with dressings.. lemon, vinegar, etc). slip in some ginger to help with the nausea (really, it works!) but otherwise dry toast, plain rice, plain pasta, etc.

generally beyond those first few days (assuming there aren't any other issues, like avoiding seeds or something), then feel free to mix it up :) high-fibre is good. chemo blocks you up incredibly well, haha. sprinkle the world with psyllium husk? :)

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 Post subject: Re: High-calorie, nutrient dense sauce recipes please!
PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:15 am 
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Thanks so much for all the suggestions!

My fiance is on an everyday oral chemotherapy regime so while he feels horrible it is thankfully not as punishing as traditional chemo.
Food issues are further complicated by the fact that he has undergone a full gastrectomy, as well as removal of his spleen, gall bladder, and part of his pancreas. Since his most recent (unsuccessful) surgery in October, I have managed to help him regain about 15 pounds but he remains below a healthy weight. Also, we are interested in expanding his diet to not be so reliant on animal fats and refined sugars for calories and to incorporate a little more variety.

Thanks again PPK!


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:21 am 
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Sorry if it wasn't clear above... I am vegan, he is omni but has considered veganism. I want to be sure that I am going to be able to adequately meet his unique nutritional requirements on a plant-based diet before we take that step.


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 Post subject: Re: High-calorie, nutrient dense sauce recipes please!
PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:51 am 
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I really like this avocado pesto: http://www.chefchloe.com/blog/2-blog/20 ... pasta.html

It's rich and creamy and I don't think it tastes very avocado-y, although my boyfriend said he could tell. It's tasty, regardless.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 9:34 am 
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starshine wrote:
Sounds great. Can you recommend a recipe? I have only made basil pesto with pine nuts before.

I was also thinking about trying something like a cashew cream.

Ya, I would probably avoid the pine nuts. There is this weird phenomenon called "pine mouth" where eating too many pine nuts can make everything taste bitter for up to about a week. He certainly doesn't need that added challenge right now!

I have made the Viva Vegan cashew creme in my regular blender many times. The cashews get soaked before blending, so they are soft.

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