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meat is murder
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Post subject: Aspartame, is it vegan? Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:07 am |
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Put aside the fact that it's dangerous, can cause cancer, blindness and what not. Is it vegan? I've always thought aspartame was artificially created in a laboratory using chemicals of some sort, but just now, a friend told me she knows a guy who doesn't eat it because it has animal products in it. She said she wasn't sure if he was right, but that I might want to search around it a bit.
I don't consume that much aspartame, but I do love some sugar free pastilles/breath mints like Läkerol. I'm hooked, and it's the closest thing I get to gelatin free "candy".
Please tell me I can continue eating them!
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manueladdams
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Post subject: Re: Aspartame, is it vegan? Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:01 am |
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i got this after a work out  which contains aspartame, so i'd like to know too, if i can continue to make my shake!
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Post subject: Re: Aspartame, is it vegan? Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:22 am |
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yeah, it's man made. the person you talked to probably thinks that because it's made from amino acids that it comes from an animal...or something. or maybe they don't eat it because i think the company that makes it is owned by Monsanto.
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vegetalion
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Post subject: Re: Aspartame, is it vegan? Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:12 am |
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I don't think it has animal products in it, but almost everything that has aspartame in it also has a warning that large doses of it cause cancer in lab rats. Maybe the "lab rats" bit is what makes it not vegan?
I mean, obviously that would make it not vegan, but the "maybe" comes from the fact that it may have been a one-time study and/or not linked to the people who produce the aspartame.
I'm just guessing here.
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Mihl
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Post subject: Re: Aspartame, is it vegan? Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:52 pm |
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Post subject: Re: Aspartame, is it vegan? Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:38 pm |
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Mihl wrote: If I remember correctly it can be processed with enzymes from pig kidneys? Yeah, I thought the problem was in the processing, that it used pig enzymes. I think there was a thread about it on the old ppk, but I don't remember what the final conclusion was or if this was verified anywhere. Gave me one more excuse to kick diet pop, though.
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Post subject: Re: Aspartame, is it vegan? Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 5:26 pm |
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Wow I had no idea about this. Does it mean that diet soda isn't vegan? Or do not all diet sodas use aspartame?
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Post subject: Re: Aspartame, is it vegan? Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 5:41 pm |
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superherogirl wrote: Mihl wrote: If I remember correctly it can be processed with enzymes from pig kidneys? Yeah, I thought the problem was in the processing, that it used pig enzymes. I think there was a thread about it on the old ppk, but I don't remember what the final conclusion was or if this was verified anywhere. Gave me one more excuse to kick diet pop, though. I remember the thread, and I remember the one person who knows anything about science concluding that it was more vegan than sugar and less vegan than having a waiter with leather boots serve you salad. I remember the important stuff.
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Post subject: Re: Aspartame, is it vegan? Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 5:48 pm |
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This is the original thread - http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... =firefox-aQuote: http://chemwiki.ucdavis.edu/Biological_ ... /AspartameIn the synthesis of aspartame, the starting materials are a racemic mixture (equal quantities of both isomers) of phenylalanine, and aspartic acid. Only the L isomer of phenylalanine is desired for use. This L isomer may be separated from the D isomer by a chemical pretreatment, followed by a reaction with the enzyme porcine kidney acylase. The final separation occurs with an acidic aqueous and organic extraction, where the L isomer is more soluble in the aqueous layer and the D isomer is more soluble in the organic layer. Here's page 2 - http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... =firefox-aThe Vegan Society apparently counts it as vegan and it's considered kosher parve.
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Mihl
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Post subject: Re: Aspartame, is it vegan? Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:40 pm |
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vegimator wrote: This is the original thread - http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... =firefox-aQuote: http://chemwiki.ucdavis.edu/Biological_ ... /AspartameIn the synthesis of aspartame, the starting materials are a racemic mixture (equal quantities of both isomers) of phenylalanine, and aspartic acid. Only the L isomer of phenylalanine is desired for use. This L isomer may be separated from the D isomer by a chemical pretreatment, followed by a reaction with the enzyme porcine kidney acylase. The final separation occurs with an acidic aqueous and organic extraction, where the L isomer is more soluble in the aqueous layer and the D isomer is more soluble in the organic layer. Here's page 2 - http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... =firefox-aThe Vegan Society apparently counts it as vegan and it's considered kosher parve. Thank you for the links and expanations. To me it sounds like it's on the same level as things like wine or beer then. They are filtered with e.g. gelatin, but there is no gelatin in the final product. Still animal products are used.
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Post subject: Re: Aspartame, is it vegan? Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:56 am |
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Thanks for all explanation. I would never thought that aspartam is not vegan. I was avoiding it because I have health concerns but now I'm shocked about those enzymes! That is so wrong on so many levels!
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