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 Post subject: Subbing coconut oil in no-bakes?
PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2014 9:31 am 
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I'm making no-bake cookies for our WVBS this Saturday, which I've never made vegan before. I found a sturdy enough looking recipe, but was wondering if there would be an issue subbing coconut oil for the margarine? Really only because I only have coconut flavored peanut butter and I don't want to buy anything, and figured that I may as well go all the way with the coconut flavor. Will they harden up as nicely as ones made with margarine? I know a lot of the new Isa baking recipes call for coconut oil instead of margarine, but I've been too busy to bake anything to try it out myself.

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Do you mean like those oatmeal/chocolate/PB things? I've used coconut oil in those with no issues, and they taste delicious.

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The water/fat ratio is different but I don't see why it wouldn't work, how much margarine does it call for?

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 Post subject: Re: Subbing coconut oil in no-bakes?
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jopa - yeah, those.

Maggie - 1/2 cup.

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i use coconut oil in my no-bakes and it works great - makes them "harder" like a candy bar and easier to handle.

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 Post subject: Re: Subbing coconut oil in no-bakes?
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Awesome, thanks!

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 Post subject: Re: Subbing coconut oil in no-bakes?
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For 1/2 cup, I'd suggest using 1/3 cup coconut oil and fill the remainder with water to get the same consistency as margarine.

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Maggie Muggins wrote:
For 1/2 cup, I'd suggest using 1/3 cup coconut oil and fill the remainder with water to get the same consistency as margarine.

i dunno, that seems like a lot of water to me. i'd be pretty confident in just using 1/2 cup of coconut oil. if the dough ends up too stiff, you could always add little splashes of water to loosen it up, right?

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I usually do what maggiemuggins does when I make cookies tho I haven't done it with no bakes. I think it should work the same. Except I usually use apple sauce or almond milk to make up the difference.

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It's only 2 tbsp + 2 tsp of water/milk/applesauce

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 Post subject: Re: Subbing coconut oil in no-bakes?
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Oops, I had my ratios off, to substitute 1/2 cup of margarine, it would be 7 tablespoons coconut oil + 1 tablespoon of water to make up for the lack of water in the oil. Coconut oil is 100% fat, whereas margarine is 85% fat & 15% water. I've done this with cookies but not no bakes, although I don't see why it would be any different.

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 Post subject: Re: Subbing coconut oil in no-bakes?
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I had no idea there was so much water in margarine. Thanks for the heads up. However! The recipe is veganized straight from a nonvegan recipe that calls for 1/2 cup butter. Is there that much water in butter?

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Over at veganbaking, Mattie goes into quite a bit of detail about margarine and butter as it applies to baking...

http://www.veganbaking.net/recipes/fats ... gan-butter

...but for no-bakes, i think it'd be more a matter of whether you like them soft (add water) or firm (no water).

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 Post subject: Re: Subbing coconut oil in no-bakes?
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I think I'll stick to the 1/2 cup oil, but just add some extra almond milk in addition to the amount it already calls for.

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zero33 wrote:
i use coconut oil in my no-bakes and it works great - makes them "harder" like a candy bar and easier to handle.


Yum, that sounds delicious. I have to go to Costco later and you reminded me I need coconut oil.


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The recipe in our family cookbook doesn't call for any fat at all and they turn out great. Now I usually add a dollop of earth balance because it makes everything better. Point being, whatever amount you use will most likely be fine.

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 Post subject: Re: Subbing coconut oil in no-bakes?
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I wonder if I should be worried about them melting since they'll be outdoors at a bake sale? The high isn't supposed to be above 75°F that day. Probably will be ok, I guess.

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The sun will melt them at that temp though, keep them shaded if you can.

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Here in Germany coconut oil is traditionally used for all kinds of no bake cookies and treats and it works great. I don't think you'll need to add extra water but that also depends whether you use melted oil or not. And yes, they wioll melt easily!


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 Post subject: Re: Subbing coconut oil in no-bakes?
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Maybe stick some ice packs under the table cloth where they'll be sitting? Or put them in a basket/container with some ice?

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They won't be in the sun, we're having it in a covered space, just outdoors. I'll bring an ice pack.

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I made some last night subbing coconut oil (1/2) cup for (1/2) cup for the margarine and they turned out delicious. The recipe I used does not have peanut butter but does have shredded coconut. I think the texture is better than with margarine.

Did they do okay outside, ap? I find treats like that usually sell really well at a bake sale (no surprise - yum)


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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2014 6:36 pm 
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They never really hardened up, but my kitchen isn't exactly cool this time of year. I wrapped them in plastic wrap. They tasted good, even though they were soft!

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 Post subject: Re: Subbing coconut oil in no-bakes?
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allularpunk wrote:
They never really hardened up, but my kitchen isn't exactly cool this time of year. I wrapped them in plastic wrap. They tasted good, even though they were soft!


Well, how could chocolate, peanut butter, oats and coconut oil not taste good? :-)


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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 10:15 am 
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I meant to post earlier that in the hotter months, I keep those things in the freezer. They're awesome when really cold.

Arisaig, what's your recipe? I'm intrigued by the coconut!

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