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 Post subject: Converting seitan recipes from simmering to baking?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:52 pm 
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Hoping more experienced seitan makers can help me with this. I've been sticking to a really short list of seitan recipes because I've never been successful at maintaining a simmer on my stovetop (it moves very quickly from a full boil to doing nothing at all and back again), but I keep seeing recipes I really want to try. I'm wondering if it would be easy to adapt a recipe that calls for simmering to work in the oven? Right now I'm eyeballing the Smoky Seitan Roast from Vegan Diner, for example.


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 Post subject: Re: Converting seitan recipes from simmering to baking?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 8:08 pm 
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you can change the cooking method for pretty much any seitan recipe. I think vegan dad has some baked seitan recipes that you could follow the instructions for. personally, I prefer steamed seitan and I believe vegan diner has instructions for steamed.

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 Post subject: Re: Converting seitan recipes from simmering to baking?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:42 pm 
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I've given up on simmering too. When I want to make a simmered seitan recipe I make it in my crock pot on high and increase the cooking time by lots. Sorry, I can't say exactly by how much, just till it looks and feels done. There is no danger of it reaching a boil in the crock pot. Baked seitan is good, but steamed is my favorite. There are some good steamed seitan recipes in Terry's books: Viva Vegan and Vegan Eats World. You can also look up Juli Hasson's steamed Italian Sausage recipe at evertydaydish.tv.

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 Post subject: Re: Converting seitan recipes from simmering to baking?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:36 pm 
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Thanks, guys! I have a crockpot but somehow that never occurred to me before. That's probably the perfect solution! Will definitely check out the Vegan Dad recipes...


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 Post subject: Re: Converting seitan recipes from simmering to baking?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:25 pm 
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I find the steamed ones ridiculously easy, and I am a completely shitty and lazy cook who can't be arsed to manage a simmer. So maybe that would be worth a try? They come together so easily and are delicious and very versatile.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:52 pm 
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Jullie gives alternate steaming instructions for the smokey Seitan loaf in Vegan Diner. It's the only method I've ever used and it's always come out perfectly!

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 Post subject: Re: Converting seitan recipes from simmering to baking?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:49 am 
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I'd like to try using my crock pot for my next attempt at simmered seitan.

I have a small plastic steamer basket but I've never been able to get it to work properly and, also, plastic? Plus it is small. So I don't steam.

Should I try combining various metal colanders with my biggest pots and lids and see what fits tightly enough to steam with? I really want to try making sausages!

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 Post subject: Re: Converting seitan recipes from simmering to baking?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:35 pm 
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my stovetop is electric and very hard to control too! gets too hot and the seitan's brainy... too cold and it's tough.

so one day I tried the crock pot like Rhizopus, but I start it on high to bring the broth to a boil while kneading the dough and then switch to low and keep the lid off for the simmer - my crock pot maintains about 200F on low which has worked perfectly for me... I've also use an electric pressure cooker that had a "simmer" button with good results too.

about 45 min for a roast, or 30 min for cutlets/strips - then I unplug/remove the crock and let the seitan cool in the broth... then fridge it in a storage container with some of the broth before I go to bed and let it set overnight (or longer).

the texture totally changes for the better after it has set (works when steaming too) - so it's totally worth the wait :)

Moon - I've never tried it, but I bet it would work if you made two or three tubes of rolled-up foil to sit in the bottom of a pan with an inch or so of boiling water and then set the seitan sausages/roast wrapped in foil on top of those tubes to keep the seitan above the water.

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 Post subject: Re: Converting seitan recipes from simmering to baking?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 12:41 am 
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Moon wrote:
I'd like to try using my crock pot for my next attempt at simmered seitan.

I have a small plastic steamer basket but I've never been able to get it to work properly and, also, plastic? Plus it is small. So I don't steam.

Should I try combining various metal colanders with my biggest pots and lids and see what fits tightly enough to steam with? I really want to try making sausages!


I have done this before I had my steamer inserts and it worked fine! Give it a try! Sausagy goodness awaits you!

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