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 Post subject: Re: Soy, friend or foe?
PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 6:06 pm 
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vegimator wrote:

But for me, I'm excited to see where GM soy crops go. According to this, I can look forward to soybeans with higher monounsaturated fat, higher omega 3, lower omega 6 and higher stearic acid content. http://www.fefaccongress2010.eu/fileadm ... _Moore.pdf


Ive been speaking with a Monsanto employee about these new soybean oils, apparently they actually get to use some of them in their cafeterias before they are commercialized. She mentioned them having tater tots fried in Vistive Gold oil (which can help reduce hydrogenated oil in the food system)

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 Post subject: Re: Soy, friend or foe?
PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 6:36 pm 
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Where are you getting the total harvest? That's also not accounting soy not entering the food chain and it's not clear whether export is factored in. The numbers stated elsewhere look quite different.
http://www.soyatech.com/soy_facts.htm
http://www.unitedsoybean.org/topics/ani ... -industry/

Even so, I don't really buy any of the things listed for reasons completely unrelated to soy (which many of them don't even necessarily contain).


That first article is about what I've heard too. They attribute about 83% of soy produced going to animal feed.

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 Post subject: Re: Soy, friend or foe?
PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 8:56 pm 
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(I went back to school MS in Nutrition) - we read a book "Taking Sides" (Nestle and Dixon). It gives a pro and con to an issue. After reading both I was always in a quandry trying to figure out what position I would take. I am normally not so wishy washy and have strong opinions.
One topic was GM foods. Read it and maybe you'll be as torn as me. I can't find a synopsis to provide.
However, part of what was presented what food fortification. We "fortify" foods to make them healthier. Like cereal with folic acid. You need folic acid to avoid neural tube defects to a fetus in the first trimester. Well, if you don't know you're pregnant - you don't know you need it. Adding this has radically reduced that birth defect. So now, there is some "genetic modification" like adding calcium into carrots. Bad? Do you mess with mother nature?
I'm not sure there's a scientific answer yet. I do agree people should be able to decide for themselves and have GMO products labelled appropriately.

from the book Taking Sides:
Issue 11. Does the World Need Genetically Modified Foods?YES: Henry I. Miller and Gregory Conko, from “Scary Food,” Policy Review (June/July 2006)NO: Ed Hamer and Mark Anslow, from “10 Reasons Genetically Modified Foods Cannot [Feed the World],” The Ecologist (March 2008)Henry Miller and Gregory Conko defend biotechnology used in genetically modifying (GM) crops and foods and believe they bring many advantages and help ensure a safe food supply. Ed Hamer and Mark Anslow argue that GM foods cost farmers and governments more money than they are worth, that they are ruining the environment, and point to the health risks associated with GM foods.


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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 2:27 am 
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linanil wrote:
Chipmunk wrote:
Where are you getting the total harvest? That's also not accounting soy not entering the food chain and it's not clear whether export is factored in. The numbers stated elsewhere look quite different.
http://www.soyatech.com/soy_facts.htm
http://www.unitedsoybean.org/topics/ani ... -industry/


That first article is about what I've heard too. They attribute about 83% of soy produced going to animal feed.

Those numbers do seem a lot more plausible. If you look at the number of livestock in the US (more than 9 billion in 2001) compared to the number of people the idea that half the soy grown in the country is for (immediate domestic) human consumption really doesn't add up.


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