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 Post subject: please cure my TMJ-type migraine
PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 8:15 pm 
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any one have any tips for getting rid of a migraine??

ive had a migraine for going on 15 hours.

im 95% sure it's jaw related from when i had jaw surgery a year and a half ago. i dont know if the cause of the migraine matters but i believe it's from my jaw muscles spasming.

im in the midst of trying to fix the root of the problem with the surgeon who did the surgery but for now i just need to get rid of this migraine.

i rooted through my closest o meds and dug up some painkillers from my surgery and took one oxycodone.
does anyone have any suggestions??
i had a hot compress on my forehead and each of my jaw joints for awhile but i dont think it did anything.

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 Post subject: Re: please cure my TMJ-type migraine
PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 8:48 pm 
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I have found that massage is really effective for dealing with TMJ. If you can afford massage therapy, there are professionals who specialize in TMJ. Otherwise try this:

http://www.ehow.com/how_6614_shiatsu-tmj.html

For the migraine: Lie in a dark, quiet room. Drink lots of water. Try the massage techniques on yourself if you can bear it. Try taking magnesium supplements.

Also, if it's really severe, like more severe than you've ever had in your life, consider going to the ER. I've heard too many horror stories of really bad headache that turned out to be bloot clots to discount that.


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 Post subject: Re: please cure my TMJ-type migraine
PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 9:00 pm 
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thank you so much for the tips. i read that page, i had thought of a few of the things on there but i wasnt sure if it would help or make it worse so now i feel comfortable doing those things.

i didnt even think of magnesium and i have some so i just took some.

THANK YOU!

hoping it will go away soon. i have an appt with my acupuncturist in the morning i just need to get through tonight. ive had a lot of really amazing success with acupuncture and muscle related problems so im hoping it will help.

my alternative if it keeps going is my surgeon suggested injecting botox into the jaw joints. i do NOT want to do that but it may come to that. ugh!

thank you again!

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 Post subject: Re: please cure my TMJ-type migraine
PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 4:29 am 
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i'm a migraine sufferer. the things i find works the best:

-mild codein if you can catch it VERY early - as in, within 30 mins of the symptoms starting.
-if that doesn't help, a sumatriptan + anti-nausea medicine.
-mints for nausea relief.

since you've had it for 15 hours, could you get a hold of a prescription of sumatriptan from your doctor?


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 Post subject: Re: please cure my TMJ-type migraine
PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 8:32 am 
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ooh codein? that stuff just makes me sick. my doc has me take 2 aleve (naproxen) + my triptan at the onset.

for tmj related migraines, i have a mouthpiece I'm supposed to wear at night for grinding - that helps. also, sometimes i feel like the pain is jaw centered but it's really sinus related so a pseudoephedrine helps. and hot showers.

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 Post subject: Re: please cure my TMJ-type migraine
PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 10:59 am 
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appifanie wrote:
for tmj related migraines, i have a mouthpiece I'm supposed to wear at night for grinding - that helps. also, sometimes i feel like the pain is jaw centered but it's really sinus related so a pseudoephedrine helps. and hot showers.


I was going to recommend a mouthpiece. The dentist can make it. It's called an occlusal guard.


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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 12:42 pm 
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kimba wrote:
appifanie wrote:
for tmj related migraines, i have a mouthpiece I'm supposed to wear at night for grinding - that helps. also, sometimes i feel like the pain is jaw centered but it's really sinus related so a pseudoephedrine helps. and hot showers.


I was going to recommend a mouthpiece. The dentist can make it. It's called an occlusal guard.


yes, that! i try the boil your own kind sometimes but they never work for me. mine is one my dentist made me

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 Post subject: Re: please cure my TMJ-type migraine
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I definitely recommend having the dentist make it. The store ones aren't good for TMJ. Also, if this is a recurring problem you have, try to find a dentist that is a TMJ "specialist." I am not sure where you live, but in the US, there is no recognized specialty in TMJ dentistry, but there are doc's who make it their focus and they know more about it than most dentists. Dentists are supposed to know the basics, but sometimes that is not enough.

If your jaw surgery caused the alignment of your teeth to shift (which depending on why you had the surgery and what surgery you had wouldn't be that surprising) then you can't get your bite in a relaxed position that is comfortable for the muscles attached to your TMJ, which can trigger the migraine. Hopefully all you need is an occlusal guard or perhaps an occlusal adjustment (where they smooth down a few spots on your teeth to get your bite more even), and not a surgical solution.


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 Post subject: Re: please cure my TMJ-type migraine
PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 8:20 pm 
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thanks everyone my migraine finally went away last night sometime after i fell asleep.
i had dug up some muscle relaxers from when i threw my back out and took one of those.

i had a tiny bit of a headache still this morning but certainly not a migraine.

i went to see my acupuncturist this morning and she treated my jaw. she said the muscles in my jaw my neck and my back were super tight.
then she did cupping on my back to release all the tension in my back. ive been really stressed out for the past couple weeks and i think that made everything worse.

afterwards i felt great. headache totally gone.

when i saw my surgeon a few weeks ago he did say the dental appliance thingy was an option but he didnt recommend it. basically he said they are hard to sleep with and you essentially train yourself to have to wear it and then you cant sleep without it.
he doesnt want to have me do anything that will mess with my sleeping because that is why i had the surgery in the first place. i had very severe sleep apnea and the normal treatments for it were not working for me so he essentially moved my jaw.

he said i probably have been clenching my teeth and not realizing it. so technically i dont have TMJ it was just the best way for me to describe it.

im hoping that it will go away on it's own. he said that is a possibility.
i go back to see him again in i believe July and if it's not better by then i have to make a decision on what im going to do in terms of treatment.
if i get any more migraines i will definitely be trying to see him before then.

the other thing about the appliance is im not 100% sure i can wear one. as part of the surgery i had to have braces put on to keep my jaw in place during the surgery and straighten my teeth out a little bit so now i have a retainer. considering everything i went through during this surgery and how much $$ i paid i plan on wearing that damn retainer every damn night for the rest of my life ;-)

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 Post subject: Re: please cure my TMJ-type migraine
PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 7:26 am 
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kimba wrote:
I definitely recommend having the dentist make it. The store ones aren't good for TMJ. Also, if this is a recurring problem you have, try to find a dentist that is a TMJ "specialist." I am not sure where you live, but in the US, there is no recognized specialty in TMJ dentistry, but there are doc's who make it their focus and they know more about it than most dentists. Dentists are supposed to know the basics, but sometimes that is not enough.


yeah my current dentist said there was no way he could tell if i had tmj or not. (he actually phrased it jerkily but I forget what he said)

LisaPunk wrote:
basically he said they are hard to sleep with and you essentially train yourself to have to wear it and then you cant sleep without it.


this is so not true. did you ever wear a retainer? they're like retainers kind of.

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 Post subject: Re: please cure my TMJ-type migraine
PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 4:05 pm 
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Red Tiger Balm (I'm pretty sure Tiger Balm is vegan) or a drop of peppermint essential oil on your jaw joints and the back of your neck at the base of your skull can help. Sometimes I put it on my forehead, too. Drinking a tea made with two or three drops of peppermint oil and a pint of boiling water can also help.

Peppermint essential oil can sting like the dickens if you put it on your skin straight. If you're not used to it, put 3-5 drops in a tablespoon of carrier oil and work your way up if that's not strong enough. Cooking oil is fine to use as a carrier oil if you have nothing else. I personally like to use grapeseed oil as a carrier.


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 Post subject: Re: please cure my TMJ-type migraine
PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 8:17 pm 
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oh snap i have some tiger balm that my SIL brought back from Vietnam!

i didnt even think of that but i will remember it for next time (hopefully there wont be a next time!)

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 Post subject: Re: please cure my TMJ-type migraine
PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:56 pm 
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I had been getting really looooooong migraine headaches that wouldnt go away. Went to the dr. thinking it was a sinus infection but it was TMJ so he sent me to the dentist.

Lucky for me my dentist has TMJ herself, so i got some really good advice. In the early stages there is not much you can do, except wear a mouth guard at night to prevent damage to your teeth from clenching and the jaw moving. (not hard to wear at ALL by the way). later stages there are surgeries and stuff you can do

She gave me some exercises to do, that i do daily. Basically, open your mouth like you are yawning, then curl your tounge back. Also massage your jaw. Take IB profun for the pain.

I did a lot of research and there are a lot of theories and treatments out there....but unfortunatly for TMJ sufferers, it is one of those things that once you get it (my was triggered by a stress event - thank you former employer *middle finger*) for many people it just gets worse. Not a whole lot you can do, except for a mouth guard, and exercises, and lower your stress. My poor dentist got to the point where her jaw was stuck shut and they had to inject it with a lubricant to open it when she was in dental school! scary.

That being said everyone is different. Sounds like your case is way different than mine. Try the exercises! They do work for me. Massaging my jaw daily helps a lot. the tiger balm sounds amazeballs, i will have to try that.

Also, my dentist showed me xrays of my jaw. From last year to this year, it is already moving due to the nighttime clenching, so the mouthgaurd is very important for me. I wore braces for almost 10 years, i dont want to undo all that!

I hope you figure it out and feel better :)


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