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 Post subject: Vegan Flu Shot?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:10 pm 
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As I type this I am on day 4 of the flu. I am actually allergic to eggs so despite the ethical implications, flu shots are out for me. While on the phone with my mother today, she mentioned that she's heard a vegan flu shot is in the works. Has anyone else heard of this? I did some light googling but didn't come up with much other than it saying the flu shot isn't vegan because of the egg incubation. I'm wondering if I've missed some key news? OR is my mom just nutso.

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan Flu Shot?
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As far as I'm aware, no vaccine can be on the market without having gone through animal testing drug trials, just like all medicines, so I don't think a truly vegan flu shot is a possibility.

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan Flu Shot?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:24 pm 
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There are influenza vaccines produced using animal cell cultures on the market right now--Preflucel, for example.

Not available in the US, as far as I can tell.

And they're probably cultured in serum, so....

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan Flu Shot?
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Still not vegan, but it looks like a flu shot was just approved by the FDA that is not cultured in eggs:

http://thechart.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/2 ... -flu-shot/

It's made using animal cell cultures, like the one mumbles mentioned.


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 Post subject: Re: Vegan Flu Shot?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:26 pm 
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There are experiments with GM plants for plant-based vaccines. http://www.gsnmagazine.com/node/26878

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan Flu Shot?
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assilembob wrote:
I did some light googling but didn't come up with much other than it saying the flu shot isn't vegan because of the egg incubation.


My opinion is that when you need something for your health, the "veganness" of something is less important.

I have asthma which seems to be a risk factor, and the general advice is that I should get a flu shot. I don't do that and rely on warm clothes, garlic and ginger.
(a flu shot doesn't guarantee that I won't get the flu)

Maybe a flu shot "isn't vegan", but the same goes for b12 blood tests and band-aids.


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 Post subject: Re: Vegan Flu Shot?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:01 pm 
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This year is my first year in a long, long time not getting the flu vaccine. My manager in the last place I worked never passed on the vaccination clinic dates to me so I missed them and then I was out of work so it wasn't a priority. Praying I don't get hit with anything this year since I'm asthmatic and when I get something I get hit really bad. Hoping me being off dairy will work in my favour since my severe lactose intolerance was the main reason I used to get so sick.

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan Flu Shot?
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Ruby Rose wrote:
As far as I'm aware, no vaccine can be on the market without having gone through animal testing drug trials, just like all medicines, so I don't think a truly vegan flu shot is a possibility.



By that I mean doesn't have egg or dairy in the actual medication. (as I'm actually allergic to it) I take plenty of medication that I have no choice as to whether I take it or not, so I have to divorce myself from that aspect of veganism...so far as drug testing goes. Or I would literally be dead.

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan Flu Shot?
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Veg_Eric wrote:
assilembob wrote:
I did some light googling but didn't come up with much other than it saying the flu shot isn't vegan because of the egg incubation.


My opinion is that when you need something for your health, the "veganness" of something is less important.

I have asthma which seems to be a risk factor, and the general advice is that I should get a flu shot. I don't do that and rely on warm clothes, garlic and ginger.
(a flu shot doesn't guarantee that I won't get the flu)

Maybe a flu shot "isn't vegan", but the same goes for b12 blood tests and band-aids.


I can't get it. I'm allergic to eggs, dairy, poultry, shellfish, bees, cockroaches, all trees, weeds, molds and feathers. I also have asthma and a host of other issues. I take a ton of medications that are tested on animals and have no choice in that matter. I was just inquiring as to a flu shot not actually containing egg/dairy etc.

Seems that my mother is actually just nutso. She hears things on Ellen or Doctor Oz and turns it into all kinds of things that I then have to research to decipher.

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan Flu Shot?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:50 am 
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I'm sorry you're sick, flu is horrendous enough but just awful for asthmatics, I hope you feel better soon!


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