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 Post subject: Why am I so tired?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:22 pm 
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So, I've been dealing with a myriad of low-grade health annoyances this year, mostly depression and anxiety but also some physical stuff like increased heart rate, increased sensitivity to caffeine and sugar, stomachaches, weight gain, and fatigue. The fatigue is by far the worst of these - I am so damn tired all the time for no apparent reason. I don't have a physically demanding job, and I've tried sleeping more, sleeping less, exercising more, exercising less, eating more or less protein/sugar/fats/whatever, taking vitamins, voodoo curses, etc. Nothing seems to help, so I'm finally dragging my butt to the doctor tomorrow to demand he tests me for whatever could be causing this. So far I'm thinking some kind of deficiency, or possibly thyroid problems. So, hivemind of the PPK, my questions to you - am I missing anything really obvious here? Anyone else had unexplained fatigue that they were able to figure out?

Part of the reason I've waited so long to deal with this was the depression - I thought the depression was causing the fatigue so I focused on fixing the that with the assumption that once I did, I wouldn't be so tired. But now I've started to improve on that front and still am not feeling much better, so I'm wondering if maybe I had it ass-backwards and whatever's making me tired was also making me depressed? (And then of course the two would just feed off each other in some hyper-dysfunctional symbiotic relationship).

It's so frustrating because I used to have tons of energy, had no problem getting up early to go to yoga or go running, always wanted to be doing things. Now it feels like just getting out of bed and showering is a chore. I miss the old me.


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 Post subject: Re: Why am I so tired?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:23 pm 
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sleep apnea?

do you have a partner or roommates or someone who can tell you how you are breathing when you sleep?

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 Post subject: Re: Why am I so tired?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:40 pm 
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also possible vit D deficiency?

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 Post subject: Re: Why am I so tired?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:34 pm 
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It's really good that you're going to the doctor! Hopefully, your doctor will know what tests to run for vegans, but some of the main ones are vitamin D, calcium, B12, and iron. If you're in the Northern Hemisphere, vitamin D is the most likely suspect this time of year. Ginny Messina and Jack Norris are two of the most reliable resources for vegan nutrition. You don't have time to read their book Vegan for Life by tomorrow, but poking around their blogs can give you lots of great information and resources.

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 Post subject: Re: Why am I so tired?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:38 pm 
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Um, well....

Vitamin deficiencies (obviously), low magnesium levels, heavy metal levels too high, thyroid problems, chronic low grade dehydration, mold exposure, hormone problems, blood sugar problems.... Oh, decreased liver function, AND food sensitivities (not allergies).

This is just a handful of things I was tested for, I didn't include a few that were more to do with pain. And I know I forgot some. These were done between my family doc, rheumatologist and "integrative" doctor. The food testing was interesting, the only thing I showed any problems with was bananas, and that was mild. At the time I was eating at least one banana a day. I stopped and my cognitive function and severe grogginess did improve. Now if I have one I sometimes have weird reactions, and other times I don't seem to notice a difference. But I do avoid them unless I am desperate.

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 Post subject: Re: Why am I so tired?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:48 am 
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My first thought is vitamin D deficiency. It can cause both fatigue and depression, and is pretty common, depending on where you live. And standard, over-the-counter supplements are rarely strong enough to combat deficiency once it dips below a certain level.

But yeah, definitely have your doctor check a variety of possible culprits. I hope you get to the bottom of this!

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 Post subject: Re: Why am I so tired?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:00 am 
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Thanks for the input everyone. Vitamin D wasn't really near the top of my list of possible culprits for some reason, so I'm glad to have that pointed out. The sleep apnea thing is an interesting thought - I don't have it that I know of, but my husband always falls asleep before I do so I don't really have any way of knowing, I guess.

I appreciate the replies! Hopefully my doc can help me figure this out.


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 Post subject: Re: Why am I so tired?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:12 pm 
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ask your husband to stay up a little longer one night and see how you are breathing.

i always knew i sored like a mofo throughout my entire life but my husband had to video tape me breathing while i slept for me to believe him.

if you stop breathing while you are sleeping and then sort of gasp/choke but dont wake up it can definitely be sleep apnea.

definitely also have your vit D levels checked. if you live in the north or dont go outside a lot and dont supplement you are most likely pretty deficient.

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 Post subject: Re: Why am I so tired?
PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 7:07 pm 
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I'm interested in seeing how what you find, and am sorry for what you're experiencing.

I'm pretty much experiencing the exact same symptoms, which to be honest, are kinda generalised and hard to track down. The only thing I'd add is dry eyes and a general sense of frustration, but I've had this for a long time now. Good luck.


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 Post subject: Re: Why am I so tired?
PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 7:26 pm 
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Have you been tested for celiac or gluten intolerance? It can cause vitamin deficiencies because it inhibits the absorption of vitamins in your digestive system. Tiredness and brain fog are two common symptoms as well.


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 Post subject: Re: Why am I so tired?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:30 am 
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If you have anxiety it can cause your increased heart rate and fatigue. Medication can possibly help with that, just be warned that medicine can also cause fatigue for the first few weeks.


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 Post subject: Re: Why am I so tired?
PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:52 pm 
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chronic fatigue syndrome?

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