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 Post subject: Case of the ol' weird-leg-an-hands
PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 2:27 am 
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Lately I've been getting this annoying feeling in my muscles (legs especially, and hands too) that's so slightly off, not really a 'problem' at all. No pain, no numbness, fully functional...

It happens mostly at night or maybe during the day if I'm tired... problem is, it makes it really hard to fall asleep. It's a feeling like I just want to get up and shake my limbs around, run in place and shimmy-shake my arms. But I'm also tired when it happens so actually I don't want to do that!

Typing it out makes it feel like it's pretty obviously something neurological like maybe I should be better about taking b12. But I really think it's not that weird, and I'm sure I've randomly experienced it before, just not with as much frequency. It kind of feels like what I imagine "the ol' war-wound actin' up with all this odd weather we been havin" might feel like. Best way I can describe it is like "bleeeeeeughghhhhhheugh"

Anyone else? Pretty much just feel like complaining and want to commiserate.

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 Post subject: Re: Case of the ol' weird-leg-an-hands
PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 2:46 am 
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Oh that sounds uncomfortable Mars! sending lots of good thoughts!

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 Post subject: Re: Case of the ol' weird-leg-an-hands
PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:18 am 
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Is it that you have the impulse to shake your limbs around, or is it that your limbs are shaking around on their own (like, startling you back awake)? The latter could be restless leg syndrome, which often happens more to people it affects when they are overtired! Actually, maybe google that either way.

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 Post subject: Re: Case of the ol' weird-leg-an-hands
PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:20 am 
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I was going to suggest restless legs. I get that when I'm tired, it propels me up the stairs to bed.


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 Post subject: Re: Case of the ol' weird-leg-an-hands
PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:24 am 
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you could try a magnesium supplement maybe?
I think that is more for aches and pains rather than shaking though.

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 Post subject: Re: Case of the ol' weird-leg-an-hands
PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:06 am 
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Low b12 made my muscles in my legs feel super weird and achey.


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 Post subject: Re: Case of the ol' weird-leg-an-hands
PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:22 am 
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I've also heard that restless legs can mean you aren't drinking enough water. So, drink up!

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 Post subject: Re: Case of the ol' weird-leg-an-hands
PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:13 pm 
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They aren't shaking on their own at all, but it's that the feeling makes me want to do that.

It's very true I don't drink enough water.

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 Post subject: Re: Case of the ol' weird-leg-an-hands
PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:27 pm 
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I get that in my legs from time to time. (Never had it in my arms.)

I've never figured out what causes it, although it does seem to happen most often when I'm either menstruating or PMSing, and on occasion, I notice it happens sometimes if I've had a particularly rigorous rowing session (not a euphemism) that morning or the day before. It's weird, because it's not muscle pain or anything I'd expect after rowing hard. Your "bleeeeeeughghhhhhheugh" is better than any description I've ever come up with for the feeling. It makes me want to shed any clothing on my legs, especially anything tight to my legs, but even then, I just sometimes have to get up and stretch or shake them.

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Jon Stewart, as well as Seinfeld, would call it a case of the jimmy-licks! (jimmy-legs)!

It sounds like you may be experiencing restless leg syndrome- at least, you've described what I feel like when I get restless legs. My mother has restless leg syndrome very severely; it also sometimes affects her arms. I experience it every once in awhile, but just in my legs. Over time, I've found that for me it seems very diet and exercise dependent. If I drink wine late at night or eat very salty foods, my legs get that feeling-- like I just need to shake them or move them around. For my mother, this feeling happens everyday and progresses as the day goes on. She can't ever go out to eat at night, because she can't sit still in the evening. We, her family, are used to her standing up to move around to try to relieve her symptoms. She stands in place and moves her legs, which helps. Hot baths seem to help both of us.

So there are two different examples for you. Physicians often prescribe Lyrica, as well as some Parkinsons medications to deal with restless limbs if it gets crazy bothersome (like my Mom's). All I understand about it is that it is neurological, and probably basal ganglia centered, but I don't think there is hard evidence on that. For me, I've tried to spot my triggers and avoid them, and that helps me most of the time. When I stay pretty active, the jimmy legs are much less likely to set in for me. For my mother, it's a constant, daily issue she has to deal with.

Good luck, Mars.

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 Post subject: Re: Case of the ol' weird-leg-an-hands
PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:16 pm 
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Mr Moon gets the most insane restless leg syndrome bouts, it's a huge pain in the butt.

There is a lot of information about what supplements you can take online. I do think that magnesium is one of them. And it can absolutely be attributed to fatigue and I think to a certain degree dehydration. Anything that can muck with your nerve function, really.

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 Post subject: Re: Case of the ol' weird-leg-an-hands
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I totally get what you mean and I experience it all the time! Mainly in my legs. I'm also really bad at drinking enough water, but for some reason I never thought that the things might be connected. I'll have to try this 'drinking like a normal person' business to see if it helps.

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 Post subject: Re: Case of the ol' weird-leg-an-hands
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Yeah. It might be restless leg syndrome. Such an awful, weird feeling. I think magnesium helps.


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 Post subject: Re: Case of the ol' weird-leg-an-hands
PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:25 pm 
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Yeah the more I've been thinking about it, the more that makes sense. Argh Restless Leg! It was really bad a couple of nights ago and then yep, I remembered I basically just drank coffee all day.

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