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 Post subject: vulva/vagina pain (advice?)
PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 4:21 pm 
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Does the PPK know anything about this? Personal history follows (maybe TMI) because I am trying to figure it out, and also whether I should try to see a dr. about it here (in NatureBoy's tiny town in Denmark) or if I can wait til the 10th when I am back in NL and can see my anthroposofic dr. who is made of win. TMI behind the cut.

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- NatureBoy came to NL on December 20th, it'd been 5-6 weeks, and our first time having sex this trip was a bit painful. (But it also was in early November, after a 3-4 week gap since our previous sex.) After that, sex life was great.

- We had piles (really, piles) of sex the 23 & 24th, and then I needed a break, so we had almost a 6 day long break (for various reasons). The first time after that was again painful, but much less so than on the 20th. I think it was the 29th?

- The 30th we tried and had to stop, because ow.

- The 1st we tried and had to stop, because ow. Afterwards, he investigated a bit, and my inner labia and vaginal opening were sore, especially vaginal. (I cried a little. It hurt. But the pain also disappeared pretty much as soon as everything poking it went away.)

- Today he tried just gentle oral sex, and it was nice. Afterwards, he investigated again. Nothing is red or looks "ouchy", but the vaginal opening is sore, and there's a bit of bonus tissue there, which is particularly sore. (We tried googling pictures afterwards so he could explain to me what he saw me respond to, and it looked like it might be some kind of bonus tissue at the top of the vaginal opening which is tender).


I was ok for most of today, but starting right now, it hurts there and also going up, like towards my uterus, even when standing or sitting around. I just took 200mg ibuprofin, which seems to help. Anyway, what's going on? When I google "vulva/vagina pain" I get lots of info. about psychology/head/emotional stuff playing a big role in the pain, or about funny rashes, but there is no rash here, and afaik my emotional, etc. situation is fine. I am puzzled. And also, pain sucks. A lot.

Re-reading this, it sounds like NatureBoy and I should find a way for me to visit his dr., but I keep on hoping there's an easy explanation for this + that it'll go the fork away, at least until the 10th when I can see my own awesome-pants dr. again.

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 Post subject: Re: vulva/vagina pain (advice?)
PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 4:41 pm 
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Ugh, that sounds really not fun, lutin. I'm sorry you're having to deal with that.

I wouldn't want to speculate about what might be going on, but I think the guideline I would use is that if it mainly hurts during/after sex, I'd wait to see your doctor, but if it continues to hurt (or gets worse) just standing or sitting around, I'd try to see someone asap. Partly to rule out anything serious, but mainly because you shouldn't have to suffer for the next week or more!

I hope you get some relief soon, whatever is going on! <3 HUGS!!!

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 4:44 pm 
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I would go to the doctor, especially since the pain is now spreading and not happening only during sex. Good luck!

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 Post subject: Re: vulva/vagina pain (advice?)
PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 4:49 pm 
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I had similar when I had some sort of fungal infection. No other symptoms, but it hurt like hell. I would go get a culture, since anything like that is easy to treat (or rule out).

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 Post subject: Re: vulva/vagina pain (advice?)
PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 5:22 pm 
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I would go to the doctor, especially since the pain is now spreading and not happening only during sex. Good luck!
I agree with this; I know it's a pain (literally), but it's better to be safe than sorry, and you'll feel so relieved when you find out it's something random and innocuous!

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 Post subject: Re: vulva/vagina pain (advice?)
PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 5:46 pm 
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I would also go. I had a similar thing happen a few years ago and it of course got super painful on a Friday night so I had to go to the ER (walking hurt!) so I would go sooner rather than later. And maybe you'll get better before you go back and can have more sex.

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 Post subject: Re: vulva/vagina pain (advice?)
PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 10:19 am 
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Sorry to hear your going through this unpleasant stuff. Hopefully your doc will be able to help you find some relief quickly.
On a personal note, I don't buy the "psychology/head/emotional stuff playing a big role in the pain". Too me that's just another way of saying "we don't know what the problem is so we'll make something up". Physical pain is physical pain. I think if a doc tried to use that explanation on a man, he'd be told to fork off.


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 Post subject: Re: vulva/vagina pain (advice?)
PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:02 pm 
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Well, it sounds like it could just be wear and tear because of a lot of sex, which has definitely happened to me more than once. It doesn't sound like it is anything dangerous and you will probably have a hard time getting to see a doctor before the 10th either way, especially after the new medical rules became effective on Jan. 1.
Unless it's getting worse, I'd just wait until you can get to your regular doctor at home, even though it's annoying not to be able to have sex when you're visiting!

Is there any chance you have a yeast infection? Have you been itchy at all?


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Thanks for the local info, smoooooothalicious. We were also wondering about the details of a tourist visit here.

There is no chance of a yeast infection; I am not at all itchy. It is (or was) a sharp/pulling pain, which becomes achey (or disappears entirely) when I poke around and investigate. This morning we did 2 self exams (once with me and a webcam, once with him since I was a bit squeamish) and found nothing special to report. No particular pain bits, either. So strange. I have 3 bonus red spots near my belly button now, and some lower abdomen pain for which I am now taking 300mg ibuprofin, but the pain I originally posted about is gone.

I am going to schedule an afternoon appt. with my GP on the 10th, and can post her thoughts here, in case Inquiring Minds Want to Know.

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 Post subject: Re: vulva/vagina pain (advice?)
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Definitely do that! It seems pretty random - could it be a crazy asymptomatic UTI? That's the one thing I'd worry about, considering how that needs treatment with antibiotics. But mostly I'd just worry if the abdomen pain doesn't go away. If you think there's a chance you'd need to get antibiotics, definitely call a doctor, but I wouldn't worry too much.

Definitely let us know what's up when you get back home!


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 Post subject: Re: vulva/vagina pain (advice?)
PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 4:08 pm 
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I second the possibility of a fungal infection (including a yeast infection) - I have had those kinds of symptoms with a yeast infection before and it totally sucks.


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 Post subject: Re: vulva/vagina pain (advice?)
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I think it may be a good idea to buy some canesten (you can get it in Matas shops as well as the pharmacies) just in case! Worst case scenario, you didn't have a yeast infection, and then canesten does nothing. Best case scenario: you solve the problem and get to have awesome sex for the rest of the stay!


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 Post subject: Re: vulva/vagina pain (advice?)
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Good news: The pain is pretty much gone, and we had awesome sex twice.

Bad news: Neither my dr. or any of her colleagues has time to see me on Friday, and then I go to Amsterdam for 2 weeks of courses (at awkward times, so seeing my dr. then will be hard). The nurse and I just decided that since I currently have no symptoms, it would be ok to wait to see if they return, but maaaaaan, I would've loved someone professional to look at this already. Boo.

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 Post subject: Re: vulva/vagina pain (advice?)
PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:39 am 
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lutin, i feel you - i may be going through something similar. my boyfriend and i have been dating 2.5 years. had lots of wild sex during the initial year, but after that i found i couldn't really have sex anymore, because it hurt so much. i've been to several doctors about it and they've done all sorts of testing for STIs, yeast infections, and physicals. but nothing comes up so they advise me to "relax" more...do more foreplay (because we women have a way of tensing up, as one doctor put it), use lube (which i have and makes it worse) and try going on top instead (which i do and it makes no difference). i went for physicals and even had a cervical biopsy but the bad cells weren't related at all to my symptoms (strange. and the biospy turned out just fine, but i still experience discomfort/pain like...well...like my croissant is too small or something). and then there's a bit of blood and peeing sucks for a couple hours after.

i hope you get it all worked out. the only time i can *tolerate* (and by tolerate i mean just barely tolerate) penetration is if there has been like half an hour of foreplay.

sorry if this was TMI for everyone but i guess that doesn't exist on the ppk right because we're all best friends <3

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 Post subject: Re: vulva/vagina pain (advice?)
PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:53 pm 
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Semiautomatic, I've been experiencing the same thing, at different levels of tolerability, for like two years at least. I saw a gynecologist last year who specializes in vulvodynia, which is basically one of those made up illnesses that actually just describes a set of symptoms and doesn't relate to a bacteria or virus or any specific treatment or anything, but you might want to check out some websites for vulvodynia. There are two subcategories, one (the one that describes me) being where the pain is mostly in the vaginal vestibule, which it turns out is made up of a special kind of tissue that's not found anywhere else in the body. For some unknown reason, this tissue can become more sensitive and inflamed and irritated in some women.

My doctor gave me a list of lifestyle/habit type things which helped some, things like using only non-scented soap, laundry detergent, etc., washing my hands with said non-scented soap before peeing/wiping (I in particular work with a lot of gross chemicals in my job, so I think this is particularly helpful for me to remember, but even if you just have residue on your hand from holding a book and touching the ink, or something like that, my dr. seems to think this is helpful), rinsing with water after you pee since urine left on the skin can be an irritant, I make my partner shower and wash his hands with the non-scented soap too, especially before anything sexy happens, swimming in a chlorinated pool or hot-tub is bad but my dr. said if I was going to do it, to slather some petroleum jelly on my vulva first as a protective layer, if taking a bath then wash the tub out really well (I'm not sure exactly how this is supposed to work becaue you're supposed to wash it clean of harsh chemicals like bleach- so what am I supposed to clean it with?! I've mostly just stopped taking baths, which is very sad for me since this is one of my favorite things to do when I'm feeling down), letting your crotch air-dry a bit first before putting on clothing after taking a shower if you can.

My dr. also prescribed for me a few different things, which have helped me for a few months at a time although now they're not working anymore and I don't really know what to do next. One of them is a very low dose of Imipramine, which is typically used as an anti-depressant (but this is a much lower dose.) My issues are complicated by the fact that I've been dealing with chronic yeast and bacterial vaginosis issues for the last 3 years as well, so sometimes it's hard to tell when there's pain from a different infection and when there's just pain from the always underlying vulvodynia. I do know that at least a good portion of the time this pain is NOT from yeast infections or whatever though, it is definitely its own thing, and unfortunately a lot of doctors don't even know that this is a thing. I would check to see if there is a specialist in your area who is used to working with vulvodynia patients.


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 Post subject: Re: vulva/vagina pain (advice?)
PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:48 am 
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I like (I don't think I really mean "like") hearing more experiences like mine. It helps for troubleshooting and figuring stuff out. For various reasons, I only managed to see my GP last week. She said "for sure" it's a cyst and sent me to the hospital to have an ultrasound to have it confirmed. Too bad! I just came back from the hospital. The great news is, everything looks normal. The less great news is, I still have ghost pains like the one I originally described. I will see my dude again in a fortnight. I guess we will find out then what's up? Sigh.

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