| Register  | FAQ  | Search | Login 
It is currently Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:41 pm

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 7 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: A transfat in dairy helps prevent diabetes?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:27 pm 
Offline
Mispronounces Daiya
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:56 pm
Posts: 1464
I'm curious if you science smarties can help me!

Maybe you've seen articles like these in the last few days.
http://pagingdrgupta.blogs.cnn.com/2010 ... -diabetes/
http://www.science20.com/news_articles/ ... betes_risk

They're based on this study -
http://www.annals.org/content/153/12/790.abstract

It sounds pretty impressive but I have a couple questions.

Why does nutritiondata say that whole milk has 0 mg trans-palmitoleic acid (http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/dai ... ducts/69/2) and almonds have 11 mg per cup (http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/nut ... cts/3085/2)? (It's also known as 16:1 t). Also, it seems likely to me that macadamia nuts would be an even greater source of this acid since they're such a good source of the undifferentiated version (http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/nut ... cts/3123/2) but maybe that's all cis and not trans? Is it about the balance between cis and trans palmitoleic acid and somehow there's more trans in cow milk?

I'm not at risk of diabetes or anything but I'm curious.

_________________
Like the beleaguered people of sub-Saharan Africa, I'll just go to Denny's. Solidarity!
-mumbles


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: A transfat in dairy helps prevent diabetes?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:24 am 
Offline
Brain Made of Raw Seitan
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:33 pm
Posts: 1219
Location: Tachyon-coma, WA
Your chemistry questions are interesting and worth addressing (by somebody else that knows chemistry!) but at far as I can tell they're looking at a very broad parameters that are affected by many things, eating healthily among them. We both live in the US, who do we know that eats whole-fat dairy consumption? Pretty healthy people in the first place. Maybe? Also, this data was on 327 women out of the original 3736. It would be very interested to know the regions of study and the recruiting criteria/cohort criteria.

Plus, even if milk is really healthy, do you think this makes a difference? Sounds like the government just loves studying the shiitake.

Also, what the hell, why does the annals.org have an annoying splash ad? I hate this study just for that.

_________________
This thread is about Rowans, Jason Mraz and vibrators. ~ Rowan


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: A transfat in dairy helps prevent diabetes?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 2:17 pm 
Offline
Top of the food chain & doesn't need to prove it
User avatar

Joined: Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:12 pm
Posts: 652
the casein may trigger type 1 diabetes in children that have a family history.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: A transfat in dairy helps prevent diabetes?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 2:31 pm 
Offline
Mispronounces Daiya
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:56 pm
Posts: 1464
Good points Sra Nooch. Aliks, what's your source on that?

_________________
Like the beleaguered people of sub-Saharan Africa, I'll just go to Denny's. Solidarity!
-mumbles


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: A transfat in dairy helps prevent diabetes?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:29 pm 
Offline
Top of the food chain & doesn't need to prove it
User avatar

Joined: Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:12 pm
Posts: 652
vegimator wrote:
Good points Sra Nooch. Aliks, what's your source on that?
http://diabetes.diabetesjournals.org/content/42/12/1786.abstract


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: A transfat in dairy helps prevent diabetes?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:32 pm 
Offline
Mispronounces Daiya
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:56 pm
Posts: 1464
Aliks wrote:
vegimator wrote:
Good points Sra Nooch. Aliks, what's your source on that?
http://diabetes.diabetesjournals.org/content/42/12/1786.abstract


Wow, thanks!

_________________
Like the beleaguered people of sub-Saharan Africa, I'll just go to Denny's. Solidarity!
-mumbles


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: A transfat in dairy helps prevent diabetes?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:24 pm 
Offline
Grandfathered In
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:41 pm
Posts: 9510
Location: Seattle
I didn't know it was casein, but I did know people have been looking into a dairy/Type I connection for years.

_________________
Did somebody say Keep on rockin?


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 7 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group
Template made by DEVPPL/ThatBigForum and fancied up by What Cheer