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 Post subject: HPV Vaccination?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:41 pm 
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I did a search and notice although it's been mentioned occasionally in other threads there wasn't one already started. I was wondering if anyone has had the shot? Thought about it? or done some more research?

The whole news on the condoms thing and the male carrier stuff is a bit of a concern from a health perspective. Normally pretty weary of vaccines, but this one seems like it might be helpful.

Open discussion but I was looking for experiences of people choosing to be vaccinated or not and maybe to go through your reasons if you feel comfortable?

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 Post subject: Re: HPV Vaccination?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:52 pm 
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If I was single, I would get it. Helping to prevent any kind of cancer is always a plus in my book.

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 Post subject: Re: HPV Vaccination?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:13 pm 
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I did it when I was like 19? I don't know what to say about it, I did it because my gyn was pushing it and I really didn't think about it much.

I don't have any problem with vaccines, though, so there wasn't much to think about.

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 Post subject: Re: HPV Vaccination?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:15 pm 
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My story is the same as Fee's but I was a little bit older. No problem with vaccines and thought it wasn't a bad idea?


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 Post subject: Re: HPV Vaccination?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:30 pm 
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I've been thinking about getting it done because the age bracket end date is fast approaching.
But I don't know anyone whose had it or heard much about side effects or anything.

ETA: I am a huge baby about needles.

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 Post subject: Re: HPV Vaccination?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:42 pm 
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If you feel like you need it, and don't have a problem with vaccines, then go for it! I think it's a series of a few shots, so be prepared for that. I haven't heard about this vaccine being painful. All six hepatitis shots I got hurt really bad, but those are the only ones I've experienced that with. Either way the pain is temporary, but the vaccine lasts forever! I'd say the benefit far outweighs a little needle stick.

As far as side effects go, I haven't heard of any that are out of the ordinary for any vaccine. As long as you aren't allergic to anything in it you should be fine. The doctor can go over all that stuff with you.

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 Post subject: Re: HPV Vaccination?
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I was out of the age bracket they were targeting (in England anyway) when it started being recommended, but if I'd been offered it, I wouldn't have refused it.


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 Post subject: Re: HPV Vaccination?
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I think it's three shots? I don't even remember, but I do remember them being progressively more painful - not like super painful, but painful for a shot, but that could've been anything (different nurses, different moods and sensitivity for me)

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 Post subject: Re: HPV Vaccination?
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Yeah some vaccines are like that. For me it's not the stick that's painful, but the medicine going in. Not fun, but worth it.

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 Post subject: Re: HPV Vaccination?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:03 pm 
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I am 26 and have gotten 2 of the 3 shots. I debated getting it for a long time. I'm not single and plan to be with the same person until one of us kicks the bucket, but I figure it's better to just get it. I dunno, what if I were assaulted or end up being with another person later in life and I'm not protected?

I found the shot to be about as painful as a tetanus shot. It kind of hurts during the injection and the rest of the day it feels like you've been punched in the arm. I think the cost is the biggest problem--over $100 per injection! My insurance won't cover it, but i did find out that the company (I think it's Merck) will fully reimburse students if you mail them a form with your info and a denial of benefits from your insurance within 4 months of getting each injection.

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 Post subject: Re: HPV Vaccination?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:07 pm 
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I got the first two shots a few years ago because my mom and doctor really wanted me to. Then I forgot about it and didn't get the last one. Another doc said even with just the two, I'm probably relatively immune now. I don't remember it being sore afterwards.


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 Post subject: Re: HPV Vaccination?
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It seems that the shots only prevent against 2-3 of the 100s of forms of HPV.

I assume like other vaccines it's cultured in eggs? Which I've developed a slight allergy to over the years, I'm not 100% clear on if that's just a food allergy or what. And so far doctor's I spoke to aren't sure either.

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 Post subject: Re: HPV Vaccination?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:20 pm 
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If it protected against all strains of HPV that would be great, or lasted for more than 4 years perhaps, but I personally don't think it has much of a benefit for me, especially since most HPV gets cleared out by the body naturally anyways. I know it's extremely rare, but there have been several dozen cases of GBS and even death linked to the vaccine, although no definitive causation. I feel like keeping a healthy immune system to naturally flush out HPV, and regular pap smears to keep an eye on things are enough for me.


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 Post subject: Re: HPV Vaccination?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:42 pm 
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I had all three shots and yeah, I didn't really think about it either. I was on the Pill at the time and when I went in to get new prescriptions my doctor would be all 'hey, want one of these? They're free!' and I didn't really have a good reason to say no. No side effects and no soreness. Injections don't bother me at all though.

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 Post subject: Re: HPV Vaccination?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:49 pm 
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So the Gardasil vaccine protects against 4 strains of hpv, 2 of which are responsible for 70% of cervical cancer and 2 of which are responsible for 90% of genital warts. So it's a numbers game but you are giving yourself protection against the main offenders. Not all hpv strains are as common or risky. I just wanted to point that out because to say that there are 100s of hpv strains you arent protected against is misleading.

Since the vaccine is new, there's only data for 5 years of continued protection. So who knows if you'll need a booster in the future. But no one is saying you'll have limited immunity.

ETA: links to evidence of hpv being "cleared"? This just seems vague to me. Not saying the body can't defeat hpv infection like any other but many viruses can be suppressed by your immune system so you're asymptomatic but you are still a carrier.

Gardasil made by yeast: http://money.cnn.com/2006/11/22/news/co ... /index.htm

I'm not arguing for the vaccine necessarily, but I don't agree with some of the arguments against it.

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 Post subject: Re: HPV Vaccination?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:50 pm 
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It's only given to 12 and 13 year-olds here really (starting in 2008), so I haven't had it. But I don't have any problems with it.

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 Post subject: Re: HPV Vaccination?
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couroupita wrote:
So the Gardasil vaccine protects against 4 strains of hpv, 2 of which are responsible for 70% of cervical cancer and 2 of which are responsible for 90% of genital warts. So it's a numbers game but you are giving yourself protection against the main offenders. Not all hpv strains are as common or risky. I just wanted to point that out because to say that there are 100s of hpv strains you arent protected against is misleading.

Since the vaccine is new, there's only data for 5 years of continued protection. So who knows if you'll need a booster in the future. But no one is saying you'll have limited immunity.

ETA: links to evidence of hpv being "cleared"? This just seems vague to me. Not saying the body can't defeat hpv infection like any other but many viruses can be suppressed by your immune system so you're asymptomatic but you are still a carrier.

Gardasil made by yeast: http://money.cnn.com/2006/11/22/news/co ... /index.htm

I'm not arguing for the vaccine necessarily, but I don't agree with some of the arguments against it.


Good point, I didn't mean to imply it was useless! It does cover against the most common forms. I wish there was more info on the long term risks/protections.

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 Post subject: Re: HPV Vaccination?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:03 pm 
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I got the vaccine.
The body can fight off the HPV virus in most cases, but theres always the chance of dying from cervical cancer, so I figured it's better to be protected.


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 Post subject: Re: HPV Vaccination?
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my ex got it (free). I didn't (wasn't free). wish it were free for males too *shakes fist*

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 Post subject: Re: HPV Vaccination?
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I got it because you can only get it to 26 here, and I had insurance at the time. Don't remember it being painful other than a needle stick and no side effects.


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 Post subject: Re: HPV Vaccination?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:06 pm 
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I got it when they brought it in here and were doing a catch-up program for people over 12-13. I was in the last year of high school. No more side effects than I remember from any other vaccines- just a slightly sore arm for the rest of the day.

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 Post subject: Re: HPV Vaccination?
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I got it while I was in HS. The first two shots weren't bad; I nearly passed out after the third one, but that might have been because I hadn't eaten all day and had to stand in the waiting room for nearly an hour and then yeah. My arm was a little sore. I didn't even notice the first two shots; I was distracted when they jabbed me.


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 Post subject: Re: HPV Vaccination?
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If I hadn't been well outside the target age when it was introduced I'd have gotten it. I have had two LEEPs related to HPV (which I'm since clear of.) I'd much rather have had a few needle sticks than had chunks of my cervix lopped off with an electrified wire...

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 Post subject: Re: HPV Vaccination?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:35 pm 
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[quote="chiveggie" I feel like keeping a healthy immune system to naturally flush out HPV, and regular pap smears to keep an eye on things are enough for me.[/quote]

Sorry, I should cite something like that:

from the CDC's website: Most people who become infected with HPV do not know they have it. Usually, the body's immune system gets rid of the HPV infection naturally within two years. This is true of both high-risk and low-risk types. By age 50, at least 4 out of every 5 women will have been infected with HPV at one point in their lives. HPV is also very common in men, and often has no symptoms.

http://www.cdc.gov/cancer/hpv/basic_info/


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 Post subject: Re: HPV Vaccination?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:32 pm 
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I've gotten Gardisil, it's actually a shot series. 3 shots total I think. I got it for free in the military. No side effects.


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