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 Post subject: Re: swimming
PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:55 am 
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Started doing the full butterfly last night in swimming class. I've done it before (incorrectly--the right arms and frog kicking the legs instead of dolphin kicking as is proper butterfly form). But anyway, I need to coordinate my kicks and arm movements better and I felt I wasn't getting much lift on the up and forward stroke but the other folks in my class watching me told me I was coming out of the water nice and high. Didn't feel like it to me though! I was just getting enough lift to get a breath though which I guess is the main thing.

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 Post subject: Re: swimming
PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 2:28 pm 
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That's impressive, sv! I have done exactly one length of passable butterfly ever... it was amazing. Everything just clicked into place and I felt like I finally had it, until I turned at the wall and it was gone...

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 Post subject: Re: swimming
PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 10:30 am 
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monkeytoes wrote:
That's impressive, sv! I have done exactly one length of passable butterfly ever... it was amazing. Everything just clicked into place and I felt like I finally had it, until I turned at the wall and it was gone...

We didn't practice it this week though before class started, I was flailing about in one empty corner of the pool attempting my butterfly stroke. It's super splashy. Like, choppy waters in my wake and radiating out in every direction. Half the water flies out of the pool when I'm butterflyin'. I don't have a lot of control over the stroke yet but I think I've kind of got the rhythm and the motions I just need to practice and refine.

Last night, we worked on cutting down our strokes per lap and gliding more with every stroke, kicking and pulling everything together and counting how many strokes it took us to cover 25 m (half the pool - because other lessons are going on in the other half so we rarely get to swim the full 50 m) in front and back crawl and breast stroke. We tread water for five minutes. One poor girl really struggled with that and half-drowned for five minutes. Treading water with her head...underwater half the time? We were doing it in shallow enough water so our feet could touch if we needed so she was all right--I almost think it was just her technique because she didn't seem to be struggling--she was chill throughout. The rest of us were fine. We also did eggbeater legs. I think we're going to start doing flip turns at the wall next week.

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 Post subject: Re: swimming
PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 3:50 pm 
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I am having trouble finding a bathing suit that fits properly. I am fairly rectangular, leaning toward triangular with broader shoulders and chest (because of the swimming) than hips, maybe 36 chest and 34 hips (haven't measured in a while). I find most suits that fit in the butt are too tight in the chest and vice versa. Any recommendations?

Speedo is out for sure - I have never found one that fits. I have a two-year old Nike one that I like but the new Nike ones I tried did not fit. Tyr doesn't work either. The best bathing suit I ever had, which I am still wearing, I bought at Walmart of all places. Fits just right and has lasted more than a year. The seams are starting to get worn now so I am wearing the Walmart one over the Nike one as my last hope to keep swimming comfortably. I have had others that didn't fit very well but I put up with, but at $60-80 a pop I'd like to get one that feels just right.


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 Post subject: Re: swimming
PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 4:07 pm 
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I know you said Speedo is out, but have you ever tried suits from their fitness line?


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 Post subject: Re: swimming
PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:13 am 
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I am not sure what you mean by fitness line - like these: http://www.speedousa.com/sale/women/fit ... wear.shtml

Are they a different shape than the regular ones? When I look at their size charts my bust and waist are a size 8-10 but my hips are a size 2 - way to make me feel like a freak, Speedo ;-)


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 Post subject: Re: swimming
PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:58 am 
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Have you tried TYR suits? I'm not shaped like you at all and they fit me so they might not work, but my sister is broad shouldered and broad backed and they fit her too. So maybe? Would you consider a two piece? There are some meant-for-actual-swimming sporty two pieces out there. If tops and bottoms are sold separately (not sure if they are) that might solve your problem. I think TYR has some two pieces.

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 Post subject: Re: swimming
PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 1:31 pm 
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Yeah, sorry, I should have included a link! They're cut for a little more coverage, so you don't get that side-boob thing as much. They also look like racing suits nowadays, versus a decade ago when they looked like old lady wear! But we often used that style for drag suits and they might be more what you're looking for.

It's honestly astonishing to me that ALL racing suits aren't cut to fit people with large shoulders, because isn't that basically what most swimmers look like?

If you can find two-pieces that are sold separately that might be an option too!


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 Post subject: Re: swimming
PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 9:39 am 
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Ugh, stupid swimsuits. My husband has heard so many rants on how uncomfortable they are. I have a hard time finding something that will fit around my hips and not be too big in the boob area. I really want a two-piece but they seem to be unacceptable pool-wear around here. The only 2piece I've seen in the sport pool was worn by this 15 year old superstar swimmer. Normally, i wouldn't bother to follow such silly unwritten rules but I'm already not so confident in a swimsuit and don't want extra attention.
Good luck, arisaig! I have a new one made by Zoggs that I don't hate, do they have that brand in N America?

eta: http://www.zoggs.com/ Seems to be British.


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 Post subject: Re: swimming
PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 9:44 am 
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Aaaand while I'm in here complaining...do you guys ever experience crazy sneezing and congestion after swimming? Lately, the night after my evening swims I wake up with a stuffed nose and can't stop sneezing and blowing my nose the whole next day. It feels like what I imagine an allergy attack would feel like but I don't have allergies. I've done some googling and it seems to be a not uncommon experience but it's really annoying! I've tried the solutions that have worked for others but it's still happening. And it's weird because it didn't start until a few months ago.


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 Post subject: Re: swimming
PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 2:50 pm 
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inceptisol, how can we have the opposite proportions and still neither can find a suit that fits? They must make them with magic.

I often get pool water stuck up in one of my sinuses - do you you think that is what's happening? I will blow my nose more often but it only comes out when it's ready so I have to stop myself from blowing too much, or worse, snorting, at work cause there are other people around me.


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 Post subject: Re: swimming
PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:01 pm 
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I also feel very strongly that the newfangled polyester suits fit way worse on pretty much everyone than traditional Lycra suits!


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 Post subject: Re: swimming
PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 7:20 pm 
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Arisaig wrote:
inceptisol, how can we have the opposite proportions and still neither can find a suit that fits? They must make them with magic.

I often get pool water stuck up in one of my sinuses - do you you think that is what's happening? I will blow my nose more often but it only comes out when it's ready so I have to stop myself from blowing too much, or worse, snorting, at work cause there are other people around me.

I breathe to the left and always end up with my left ear plugged up and pool water in my right sinus. If I bend over (like touching my toes) it will just pour out. I don't get the stuffy, sneezy effect, though.

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 Post subject: Re: swimming
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:48 am 
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It could be water in the sinuses. I try to make sure everything is cleared out but maybe i'm not getting it all. I've tried using a neti pot and it might have helped a little. It's so weird! I'm back to swimming tonight after the pool was closed last week for ski week (yep, Austrian kids get a week off school to go skiing) so we'll see how it goes.


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