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 Post subject: THUG KITCHEN !
PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:43 am 
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http://www.amazon.com/Thug-Kitchen-Offi ... 00JVVQQ1G/

Who is getting it?

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They're coming to Portland on their book tour, so I'm probably going to get it then!

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What?! Where did you find tour locations?! My tour of Portland starts in less than a week

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Portland is 10/13!

http://thugkitchen.com/events

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It's hardcover and the recipes look good, so, yeah.

I ordered it with Vegan Casseroles though, for the free shipping, so I'll have to wait until after October 7 .

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http://www.amazon.com/Thug-Kitchen-Official-Cookbook-Like-ebook/dp/B00JVVQQ1G/

Who is getting it?


I pre-ordered as soon as I saw it available! I was thinking of an Xmas gift for my (omni but loves my vegan cooking) sister-in-law, who is newly married to my brother, and not particularly kitchen-oriented. She's a wild child, roller derby gal, and a walking collage (all tatted up) - so I initially gave her a Nadia G Bitchin' Kitchen book, which was fun and kitschy, then gifted her with Vegan Stoner last Xmas (she LOVED that one) - and then Thug Kitchen seemed RIGHT up her alley, and a perfect reason to pre-order.

However, now, looking at the website, it is such a beautiful hardcover book - and the recipes look killer. So I may need to keep it and order her one in December, ha ha.


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http://www.amazon.com/Thug-Kitchen-Official-Cookbook-Like-ebook/dp/B00JVVQQ1G/

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If it's full of F-bombs like the blog, I'm not.


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LFL wrote:
linanil wrote:
http://www.amazon.com/Thug-Kitchen-Official-Cookbook-Like-ebook/dp/B00JVVQQ1G/

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If it's full of F-bombs like the blog, I'm not.

i think it is

so i'm not. my mom reads my cookbooks too and she'd be all "what the heck" with this.
which is a shame because the book looks good + affordable as a hardcover, as well as the recipes delicious

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LFL wrote:
linanil wrote:
http://www.amazon.com/Thug-Kitchen-Official-Cookbook-Like-ebook/dp/B00JVVQQ1G/

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If it's full of F-bombs like the blog, I'm not.

That's sort of their thing.

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I'm excited to see what kind of recipes are in there. I don't have much else to go on, never having made anything from their blog, but uh, the cover looks great!


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LFL wrote:
linanil wrote:
http://www.amazon.com/Thug-Kitchen-Official-Cookbook-Like-ebook/dp/B00JVVQQ1G/

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If it's full of F-bombs like the blog, I'm not.


Honestly, I'm a little ... sensitive about cussing but I love Thug Kitchen. I've tried a couple of their recipes and they are good.

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It's on my wishlist, but if the reviews end up being really good I'll definitely buy it for myself. I'm all bout fbombs and their potato salad on the blog us a favourite.

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Interested in the recipes, but don't really get the whole "thug" swearing thing. The recpies on their blog don't really seem that out there either to warrant all this bad as* talk. Is it meant to be a reaction against the peaceful, touchy feely nature of a lot of vegetarian/vegan cooking??

I suppose it's a nice change from all the "cutesy", girlie vegan cookbooks with lame titles like "oh she glows"

Are the authors male?


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Interested in the recipes, but don't really get the whole "thug" swearing thing. The recpies on their blog don't really seem that out there either to warrant all this bad as* talk. Is it meant to be a reaction against the peaceful, touchy feely nature of a lot of vegetarian/vegan cooking??

I suppose it's a nice change from all the "cutesy", girlie vegan cookbooks with lame titles like "oh she glows"

Are the authors male?


I believe it is a male/female team.

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It's on my wishlist, but if the reviews end up being really good I'll definitely buy it for myself. I'm all bout fbombs and their potato salad on the blog us a favourite.


Honestly the F-bombs bothered me so much that I couldn't stick around their blog long enough to find out whether the recipes were good. I'm not the kind of person who tells others not to swear (unless it's my husband-- then I sometimes ask him to tone it down). And one F-word here or there is something I'm fine with. But a lot of them in profusion make me feel yelled at, even when it's not aimed at me. So really, I don't see why I should pay good money to have to put up with it, even if the recipes are worthwhile.

The use of "Thug" bothers me too. "Thug" is a pejorative word that implies the person is violent. It has a negative connotation. And at least where I live, it's been known to be (in racist fashion) applied a lot more to POC than to white people. Maybe this is an attempt to reclaim the word in some fashion, or to parody the way it is usually used, or something. But if so it's going over my head!


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Obviously you don't have to buy it then. thug doesn't to me imply a person is violent, unless you are fox news, then maybe it does. Urban dictionary actually has some good definitions of thug but really, I think it is a mix of humor and just straight talk. Like you eat food because its good, its not to clean out your chakras. You eat it because it is what you should be eating.

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I'm probably just hypersensitive but the tone of the blog bothered me extremely, not because of the swearing but because it seemed almost... classist. Making "taking a certain way" a shtick to sell better and get more clicks and to be "funny". I can't articulate it very well but it bothers me greatly. And I'm a person who swears a lot, so that's not it.

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linanil wrote:
Obviously you don't have to buy it then. thug doesn't to me imply a person is violent, unless you are fox news, then maybe it does. Urban dictionary actually has some good definitions of thug but really, I think it is a mix of humor and just straight talk. Like you eat food because its good, its not to clean out your chakras. You eat it because it is what you should be eating.


No, it's not just Fox News (I never watch them). Here it is from the Oxford Dictionary (American):

thug
Syllabification: thug
Pronunciation: /THəɡ

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noun
1 A violent person, especially a criminal.
[ mid 19th century: extension of sense 2]

2 (Thug) historical A member of a religious organization of robbers and assassins in India. Devotees of the goddess Kali, the Thugs waylaid and strangled their victims, usually travelers, in a ritually prescribed manner. They were suppressed by the British in the 1830s.


And here is Meriram-Webster's definition:

thug
noun \ˈthəg\

: a violent criminal
Full Definition of THUG
: a brutal ruffian or assassin : gangster, tough
— thug·gery noun
— thug·gish adjective



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[thuhg]

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a cruel or vicious ruffian, robber, or murderer.
2.
(sometimes initial capital letter) one of a former group of professional robbers and murderers in India who strangled their victims.

Urban dictionary does indicate the word is being reclaimed in a positive way. That is good to know! However urban dictionary also calls out Fox News and company for using it as a substitute for a racist slur. To me it's a word that has at least as much of a negative connotation as a positive one because in my experience its #1 definition from dictionaries like Merriam Webster and Oxford is still alive and well.


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but really, I think it is a mix of humor and just straight talk. Like you eat food because its good, its not to clean out your chakras.

Get me that damn cookbook.

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hahaha. If you're offended, don't buy it! We know what the word "thug" means. That's the point.


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If they think it's racist I doubt "get over it" is the right approach and not saying you don't think it's racist.

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As someone who is sensitive to race issues, I don't think it is racist. I'm buying the book and want to discuss with others that are doing the same. Feel free to discuss the topic in the parlor if you want to discuss potential classism or racism.

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I don't think this is by the same person as Thug Kitchen, but it's still hilarious and this reminds me of the blog every single time.



The cookbook looks good and knowing me I'll probably get it! Eventually.


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I don't think this is by the same person as Thug Kitchen, but it's still hilarious and this reminds me of the blog every single time.



The cookbook looks good and knowing me I'll probably get it! Eventually.

that video makes me kind of uncomfortable.

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I stopped that video after 15 seconds.

Thug Kitchen is a schtick - you don't have to like the schtick, but they worked an angle that made them popular and caught the eye of a lot of non-vegans. They were smart and presented pinterestable/tumblrable images with large fonts and eye-catching language. It would be weird if they didn't employ the same techniques for the book, just like if the Vegan Stoner book stopped using a stoned looking tomato as their mascot. If you can't handle cusswords, don't buy the book!

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