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 Post subject: Vegan Hair Care
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:15 am 
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I've been thinking about it for a while and couldn't find a non specific thread on hair care. So ask away!

I've been using a shampoo for a while that has caused a lot of build up. I need something to clarify it. Other than the ultra crunchy idea of baking soda, is there a good shampoo for this?

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan Hair Care
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:26 am 
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have you tried a acv rinse?

i like using lush's cynthia stout to get things super clean.

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan Hair Care
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:52 pm 
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I sort of have the opposite problem--my hair is so dry that I wouldn't mind a bit of build up, but this line of shampoos are the best I've ever used, not super expensive, and I just love them so much. Everything in that store is incredible. I know it's just a small store in Victoria BC but even now that I live thousands of kms away I still order them. http://www.nezzanaturals.com/product-ca ... e/shampoo/

I use patchouli and orange because I like patchouli when it's mixed with something else and because my hair is dry/damaged.

When I tried ACV rinses I had the greasiest roots and dry ends. I am pro-poo.


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 Post subject: Re: Vegan Hair Care
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 6:11 pm 
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ACV rinse never worked for me, my hair just became a huge grease ball. I went to WFs and found a shampoo that says it is vegan and is a clarifying shampoo. So I'm going to try it. It was on sale too, Acure? Of course with my luck, they are owned by Unilever or something.

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan Hair Care
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 7:43 pm 
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I don't know much about clarifying shampoos, but am interested in seeing how Acure works for you, linanil. I feel like I need one sometimes. Right now I'm totally obsessed with my shampoo/conditioner. They're Giovanni brand. Most of their products are vegan (I think just one kind of their shampoo and a couple styling products are not), but this is the anti-frizz kind with keratin oil. I love it so much! It's like a salon quality hair product without harsh chemicals (I know not everyone cares, but I'd rather not have them in my shampoo), and has completely turned my hair around from a dry, frizzy mess to a really soft and smooth non-mess. And it smells fantastic.

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan Hair Care
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 8:25 pm 
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These are the 3 vegan clarifying shampoos I've used.
https://www.paulmitchell.com/our-produc ... poo-three/
http://www.malibuc.com/products/cn/2410 ... ng-Shampoo
https://giovannicosmetics.com/products/ ... em=5050S-8

In order from most cleansing to least I'd say Paul Mitchell, followed by Giovanni, followed by Malibu. But the flipside is the Malibu is the most gentle, followed by Giovanni, followed by Paul Mitchell. So the Giovanni is a nice middle ground, if your hair has a lot of chemical damage and you're babying it, try the Malibu, and if you have really healthy hair and are dealing with a lot of build up the Paul Mitchell is your best bet.

If sulfates are an issue the Malibu and Giovanni are sulfate free, the Paul Mitchell isn't, but that's part of why it clarifies better, sulfates are the most intense surfactants.

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan Hair Care
PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 5:28 am 
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Thanks for the list!

I may just need to pick up a small bottle of Paul Mitchell to use once in a while.

As for the Acure, I think it seemed to get most of the buildup and did a pretty good job.

The GioVanni is tempting too because it says it controls frizz. I've been using Lush R&B for that (and sometimes even straight up Jojoba oil).

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan Hair Care
PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 6:45 pm 
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If you have an Ulta near you they sell the Paul Mitchell in a small size. Also I'm not 100% on this but I think Trader Joe's might have their own version of the Giovanni one, I'm pretty sure the Nourish Spa Balancing shampoo and conditioner are the TJ equivalent to those Giovanni products.

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan Hair Care
PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 10:53 pm 
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I have pretty dry, low porosity hair and I've been using Shea Moisture Moisture Retention Shampoo and the Restorative conditioner. I like them a lot. It has no sulfates and no silicones, a fact that is making my hair and skin very happy. I can also find it easily at Target. Some of their products contain honey, but not many. They seem to be easy to spot since honey is in the title of the product.

Shea Moisture is my suggestion to those that have dry or curly hair.


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 Post subject: Re: Vegan Hair Care
PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 2:01 pm 
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Does Paul Mitchell have many vegan products? I used to use a few things from PM but I stopped after I went vegan because I wasn't sure.

EDIT: Nevermind, I just saw that they label vegan products on their website!


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 Post subject: Re: Vegan Hair Care
PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 2:11 pm 
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Yeah, actually most of the Paul Mitchell stuff is vegan, and everything is labelled on the website. Just go to the specific product you're interested in and then click on "details" and there will be a series of circles that say features for that product, and one of the circles says "vegan" if a product is vegan.

Also a heads up in case you or anyone else has the same issue, I bought the Super Strong Daily Conditioner because it had the vegan circle, then noticed silk in the ingredient list, sent a very strongly worded pissed off email, and they responded that they double checked with their lab and the silk ingredient is entirely synthetic. So their vegan labelling seems accurate and legit. The new sulfate free Ultimate Color Repair line with quinoa protein is fan-freakin-tastic too.

ETA: and I managed to miss your ETA while I was typing, so nevermind me.

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan Hair Care
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i have been using giovanni coconut shampoo in the purple bottle - i really like it. i will buy the conditioner once my super huge costco bottle runs out.

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan Hair Care
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The solid shampoo bar Seanik (the sea salt one) helped get rid of some build up out of my hair. There's also a new brand at Target that's good for clarifying called Attitude.

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan Hair Care
PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 1:38 pm 
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My next question is what do you do to encourage curls? I have curls when my hair is wet, I have 1 curl from a bald spot that regrew curly and stays curly when dry. the rest of my hair kind of falls flat when it dries. I've tried Big from Lush and I like that but getting to a Lush store is a bit of a pain. I like using R&B as well from Lush. Beyond my musings of pulling out all my hair to see if it grows back curly, any options? (I also think generally my new growth is becoming curly, it is just taking a while)

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan Hair Care
PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 3:38 pm 
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jessilikewhoa wrote:
Also I'm not 100% on this but I think Trader Joe's might have their own version of the Giovanni one, I'm pretty sure the Nourish Spa Balancing shampoo and conditioner are the TJ equivalent to those Giovanni products.


oooh, this is good to know, thanks! my husband uses TJ's shampoo sometimes, and WF shampoo sometimes. right now we have the TJ's nourish in the shower, and i'm tempted to give it a spin.

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan Hair Care
PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 5:23 pm 
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linanil wrote:
My next question is what do you do to encourage curls? I have curls when my hair is wet, I have 1 curl from a bald spot that regrew curly and stays curly when dry. the rest of my hair kind of falls flat when it dries. I've tried Big from Lush and I like that but getting to a Lush store is a bit of a pain. I like using R&B as well from Lush. Beyond my musings of pulling out all my hair to see if it grows back curly, any options? (I also think generally my new growth is becoming curly, it is just taking a while)

Oh, boy. There is a TON of information online about curly hair if you feel like going down a crazy rabbit hole and googling a bunch of indecipherable acronyms. But basically you want to:

1) Shampoo less (or not at all) but condition, condition, condition.
2) Touch it as little as possible while it's wet.
3) Use some sort of product to help form/hold the curl.

My personal routine is to condition and detangle in the shower, then rinse with my head upside down. With my head still upside down I apply gel (I like DevaCurl, but there's lots of good vegan options, and some people prefer mousse or creams or whatever to gel). Then I use an old t-shirt to press some of the water out (I'm still upside down, pressing clumps of hair up toward my scalp). Then I "plop" (dumb curly hair term - it's a certain way of putting your wet hair in a towel) using a hair towel for 10-15 minutes. Then take the towel off and either air dry or diffuse. Styling along these lines will definitely encourage curls/waves, but you might need to experiment a little to find the products and techniques that work best for your hair.

eta: I forgot the most important part! Once your hair is dry, you scrunch it it get rid of the hard cast left by your product. Otherwise you get that crispy wet look.


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 Post subject: Re: Vegan Hair Care
PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 5:50 pm 
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Thanks Pinko! You have great curly hair! My one curly lock just kind of looks funny with the rest of my hair being straight so figured might as well go with it.

Do you condition daily? I haven't been washing my hair as often but I also just haven't been wetting it much either except in the morning, I wet it a little and comb it.

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Now that my hair is longer, I usually wear it up on the second (and sometimes third) day. But if I'm wetting it, I condition it. I know some people will lightly wet their hair with a spray bottle and maybe add more product to encourage the curl on second/third/whatever days, but I haven't mastered that.


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 Post subject: Re: Vegan Hair Care
PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 7:44 am 
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I think my hair is all kinds of ridiculous BUT the plop method seemed to work to make most of my hair wavy when dry. I tried a light gel and I had some frizzing but mostly success? Except for the back of my hair which seemed to want to stay mostly straight. I have a solution, I'm going to go get my hair cut because if my hair is growing out curly/wavy, then that will get rid of the straight portions. I'll also try a stronger gel.

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