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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:12 pm 
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I'm newish to wearing makeup and am looking for a great primer that would wear well with mineral makeup. I prefer something natural but will take anything that works well and is affordable.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:17 pm 
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I like ELF's $3 eyeshadow primer!

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:19 pm 
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missmuffcake wrote:
I like ELF's $3 eyeshadow primer!

I got the $1 one and it works ok, is the $3 studio one better?

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 Post subject: Re: eyeshadow primer
PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:38 pm 
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Quarantined wrote:
I got the $1 one and it works ok, is the $3 studio one better?


I don't know, the $1 says 'eyelid primer'. I am not sure if it has the sticky ability for eyeshadows to cling to. I like the ELF primer over UDPP.

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 Post subject: Re: eyeshadow primer
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missmuffcake wrote:
Quarantined wrote:
I got the $1 one and it works ok, is the $3 studio one better?


I don't know, the $1 says 'eyelid primer'. I am not sure if it has the sticky ability for eyeshadows to cling to. I like the ELF primer over UDPP.


Ooh. If you like it more than UDPP I think I should give it a shot for $3!

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 Post subject: Re: eyeshadow primer
PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 4:30 pm 
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I think Urban Decay Primer Potion can be seen as "affordable" because it will literally last forever!
When you can't get anymore product out, remove the white stopper and then when it has seemingly be exhausted through that - saw the bottle in half and scope the innards into a small jar.


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 Post subject: Re: eyeshadow primer
PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 4:32 pm 
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I'm all about Too Faced Shadow Insurance. Way better packaging than the Urban Decay primer and it works just as well for me. It's $17 for a tube but I've been using mine for at least 6 months now and have barely made a dent. A little goes a long way.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 4:42 pm 
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Paint, in Bare Canvas(in the little tube), by MAC makes your eyeshadow stay for days!


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 Post subject: Re: eyeshadow primer
PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:09 pm 
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Mushrooni wrote:
I think Urban Decay Primer Potion can be seen as "affordable" because it will literally last forever!
When you can't get anymore product out, remove the white stopper and then when it has seemingly be exhausted through that - saw the bottle in half and scope the innards into a small jar.



I agree. I like UDPP in "Sin", and I also like Bare Minerals' eye primer as well.


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 Post subject: Re: eyeshadow primer
PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 6:19 pm 
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Just tried to order from e.l.f and the shipping to Canada is crazy expensive. I guess I'll hit up Sephora and look into 2 Faced and Urban Decay.

I'm kinda annoyed at how much some companies charge to ship to Canada . I do a lot of mailorder and I know it doesn't cost 16$ to ship a tube of makeup , even with the mailer.


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 Post subject: Re: eyeshadow primer
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amandabear wrote:
I'm all about Too Faced Shadow Insurance. Way better packaging than the Urban Decay primer and it works just as well for me. It's $17 for a tube but I've been using mine for at least 6 months now and have barely made a dent. A little goes a long way.


Does it have beeswax?

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 Post subject: Re: eyeshadow primer
PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:26 pm 
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I don't *think* so, here are the ingredients per Too Faced's website -
Isododecane,Talc, Cyclopentasiloxane, Disteardimonium Hectorite, Trimethylsiloxysilicate, Glyceryl Triethylhexanoate, Polyethylene, Trihydroxystearin, Sorbitan Sesquioleate, Isopropyl Lanolate, VP/Eicosene Copolymer, Propylene Carbonate, Dimethicone, PEG-40 Stearate, Phenoxyethanol, Tocopherol. (+/-): Mica, Bismuth Oxychloride (CI 77163), Titanium Dioxide (CI 77891), Iron Oxides (CI 77491, CI 77492, CI 77499).


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It has lanolin - 'lanolate'....

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 Post subject: Re: eyeshadow primer
PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:49 pm 
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Grrr, I saw the bunny on the package (no animal testing) and didn't think twice. That is seriously disappointing.

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 Post subject: Re: eyeshadow primer
PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:19 pm 
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I guess UDPP isn't vegan either since it's similar formula as Shadow Insurance? The Sin UDPP is included in their vegan palette . . . maybe the regular nude isn't?


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 Post subject: Re: eyeshadow primer
PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:22 pm 
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lubimiller wrote:
Paint, in Bare Canvas(in the little tube), by MAC makes your eyeshadow stay for days!


and i had a tube last for ~3 years. worth it.

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 Post subject: Re: eyeshadow primer
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Mushrooni wrote:
I guess UDPP isn't vegan either since it's similar formula as Shadow Insurance? The Sin UDPP is included in their vegan palette . . . maybe the regular nude isn't?



It is vegan. Why not do research before posting things like this. Really ill informed posts make for pages of unnecessary questions.

Like I said I use the $3 ELF one and top it off with MACs 'soft ochre' paint pot...my color stays put all day!

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 Post subject: Re: eyeshadow primer
PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:13 pm 
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UDPP's vegan-ness isn't really an unnecessary question. Urban Decay marks the vegan items on their website, and none of the primer potions have the paw print.

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 Post subject: Re: eyeshadow primer
PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 12:40 am 
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Sorry like amandabear said - I didn't see the vegan designation on the website and a very quick (admittedly not thorough) search didn't yield anything definitive . . .


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 Post subject: Re: eyeshadow primer
PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 1:19 am 
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Actually after actually doing research (which means checking the website ingredient list, haha) it seems that the original formula also includes Lanolate AND Beeswax . . . sooo not vegan after all.

Ingredients:
Isododecane, Talc, Cyclopentasiloxane, Disteardimonium Hectorite, Trihydroxystearin, Triethylhexanoin, Isopropyl Lanolate, Sorbitan Sesquioleate, VP/Eicosene Copolymer, Dimethicone, PEG-40 Stearate, Propylene Carbonate, Phenoxyethanol, Cera Alba (Synthetic Beeswax), Trimethylsiloxysilicate, Propylparaben, Methylparaben, Ethylparaben, Butylparaben, Methicone, Isobutylparaben

The Eden formula is also not vegan. And get this, the Sin UDPP has lanolate too but is included in the vegan eyeshadow palette kit . . . tsk tsk.


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Mushrooni wrote:
Actually after actually doing research (which means checking the website ingredient list, haha) it seems that the original formula also includes Lanolate AND Beeswax . . . sooo not vegan after all.



OK, this is realllyyy odd. Last year UD came out and said that the UDPP was vegan due to synthetic ingredients, in fact up until now it had the paw print, in stores, I will check today. It was posted on the PPK we were happy! I was so concerned before I wanted to drop my $ I called customer service and asked - who said yup - vegan.

Sorry, on my part for the bisque-y confusion (I take vegan cosmetics seriously). I am pissed at UD right now and plan on calling in a bit. I have a product that I believed to be vegan due to their information that is actually not vegan. Origins did this many years ago, you could bring the products they goofed on no matter what stage they were in for a trade in for vegan products. I hope UD steps up.

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 Post subject: Re: eyeshadow primer
PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 12:33 pm 
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Mushrooni wrote:
I think Urban Decay Primer Potion can be seen as "affordable" because it will literally last forever!
When you can't get anymore product out, remove the white stopper and then when it has seemingly be exhausted through that - saw the bottle in half and scope the innards into a small jar.


That's what I have. I bought it a year ago and still have a lot left, but I only use it when I'm doing something fancy with my eyes. Which is rare.


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I called UD and I am now emailing a ingredient specialist about the vegan state of primer potion.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 4:21 pm 
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Let us know what you find out . . . that's kind of lame if they suddenly changed formulas and hoped vegans wouldn't notice.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 4:47 pm 
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I know that as of September it was still being labeled vegan so if they did change formulas it's really recent. But I really don't think they're trying to trick vegans or anything, they do have a page for vegan items when most companies don't go that far and the UDPP isn't on it now.

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