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 Post subject: Deodorant that won't kill you
PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 8:02 pm 
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I just read that Tom's of Maine donates to anti-choice/pro-life organizations. Say it ain't so, PPK!!

Anyway, does anyone know of a deodorant that is harshy-chemical-free (no aluminum, etc) and doesn't donate to, um, anti-choice organizations, or whatever? And possibly even keeps one from smelling bad? I tried searching for "Tom's of Maine" in the forums but couldn't find anything.


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 Post subject: Re: Deodorant that won't kill you
PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 8:08 pm 
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here's a good thread: http://forum.theppk.com/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=5340&hilit=deodorant

Deodorant is stressful for me too!

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 Post subject: Re: Deodorant that won't kill you
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Where did you read that? I don't use their deodorant, but I am very attached to their toothpaste. If I spend 60 hours a week working for a pro-choice organization, surely my toothpaste is inconsequential? Hmm.

I use horrible aluminium chemical deodorant though, so I can't really help.

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Is it true that your company and Tom and Kate support anti-abortion groups?

No, this is not true. It is a rumor that has been circulating for some time. We do not, nor have we ever, taken a stand on the abortion issue, either for or against. We hope that the individuals responsible for starting the rumor and for repeating it will stop.

We are very proud of our charitable donations. At the present time, we donate 10% of our pre-tax dollars to charitable organizations. The majority of these are environmental organizations, the arts, and charitable groups such as homeless shelters. Tom's of Maine has never taken a position on reproductive issues as a company nor have we made any corporate contribution or grant to any organization whose mission is to change existing laws governing abortion or access to it. Because Tom's of Maine respects the diverse opinions of our owners, employees, customers, and retail partners, we do not believe it is appropriate for us to advocate for a specific political viewpoint as a company.

While we respect that abortion is an important issue for many people, we do not feel it is our place as a company to interfere in such a private and personal matter. Instead we show our interest in a better world by encouraging participation in community building and engagement with environmental issues. Issues such as these are transformative and hold the potential to unite us in the pursuit of common goals instead of dividing us into rigid political factions.

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 Post subject: Re: Deodorant that won't kill you
PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:03 am 
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Okay, I guess I will buy what they are saying on their FAQ! Who would start such a nasty rumor, though?! Argg!


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 Post subject: Re: Deodorant that won't kill you
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Tom's of Maine is owned by Colgate-Palmolive, so it's possible that it's the parent company accused of making the donations. (I'm not aware of any such accusations.)


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 Post subject: Re: Deodorant that won't kill you
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Okay, I guess I will buy what they are saying on their FAQ! Who would start such a nasty rumor, though?! Argg!


I don't know if you're old enough to remember the days of the satanic panic, but some Christians were urging a boycott of Proctor & Gamble because they (supposedly) were financially supporting the Church of Satan. I don't know why people start shiitake like this, but they do...

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 Post subject: Re: Deodorant that won't kill you
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jessica_weirdly wrote:
Okay, I guess I will buy what they are saying on their FAQ! Who would start such a nasty rumor, though?! Argg!


I don't know if you're old enough to remember the days of the satanic panic, but some Christians were urging a boycott of Proctor & Gamble because they (supposedly) were financially supporting the Church of Satan. I don't know why people start shiitake like this, but they do...


I remember that well because Catholic church bulletins had things about not supporting P&G. From my understanding, its not people that start the rumors, its competing companies that do it.

P&G had a moon symbol on their products back then, they had to get rid of due to the rumor.

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 Post subject: Re: Deodorant that won't kill you
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what a strange rumor to start. its like theyre Poppie from seinfeld!


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 Post subject: Re: Deodorant that won't kill you
PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:12 pm 
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Yeah my guess is the rumor started because of something to do with their ties to colgate/palmolive. I would definitely suggest getting a new deodorant anyways, like many people state in that thread already linked, most people have found tom's to increase their bodies BO. I had used Tom's for years and I wasn't sure this was true for me, but I have since stopped and am using the crystal thingy for about 6 months now, and I can now sometimes forget completely to wear deodorant and it's fine. Also if you are looking for a different toothpaste, Jason's is nice.

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 Post subject: Re: Deodorant that won't kill you
PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:55 pm 
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Just curious, but why would you stop using someone's products because they support life? I don't understand.


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 Post subject: Re: Deodorant that won't kill you
PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:59 pm 
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I would assume because the OP is pro-choice, but this isn't a thread to debate abortion in. Back to debating deodorant!

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 Post subject: Re: Deodorant that won't kill you
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Yes, true. I noticed my crystal has stopped working for me, but only my left armpit! It is so strange.
Has anyone ever broke their crystal (a large chunk fell off after I dropped it on accident) and then it didn't work the same?


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 Post subject: Re: Deodorant that won't kill you
PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:07 pm 
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I didn't drop mine but it did just stop working one day after about two months of use. I think it happens to some people.

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I use the Kiss My Face Active Enzyme deoderant and it's awesome! (I used to sweat so bad that I had to use drysol for months to dry me out, but still sweat "normally" now) It, for some reason, didn't work as well for my boyfriend, but after trying many natural deoderants, this is the one for me.


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 Post subject: Re: Deodorant that won't kill you
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I use the Kiss My Face Active Enzyme deoderant and it's awesome! (I used to sweat so bad that I had to use drysol for months to dry me out, but still sweat "normally" now) It, for some reason, didn't work as well for my boyfriend, but after trying many natural deoderants, this is the one for me.


This is what I'm using right now, and it works great.

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With respect to the crystal deodorant, it does still have aluminum in it. I don't buy their argument that the form of aluminum in the crystal won't absorb into your skin.

Edited to add that I'm not an expert, i just don't believe the rationale given on their website as to why it's "safer"

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 Post subject: Re: Deodorant that won't kill you
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With respect to the crystal deodorant, it does have aluminum in it. I don't buy their argument that the form of aluminum in the crystal won't absorb into your skin.


Really? I just thought it was a salt stick ....
This one I use. Image


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With respect to the crystal deodorant, it does have aluminum in it. I don't buy their argument that the form of aluminum in the crystal won't absorb into your skin.


Really? I just thought it was a salt stick ....
This one I use. Image


The salts contained are ammonium alum. The claim is that the alum molecules are too big to be absorbed into the body.

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The salts contained are ammonium alum. The claim is that the alum molecules are too big to be absorbed into the body.


yes this seems very hand-wavy to me. There are plenty of large molecular weight molecules that can be absorbed through the skin. I'm not saying I wouldn't use it, but would really like to see this study they quote.

Also it's preventing cells from producing sweat so I'm assuming it gets absorbed to a certain degree.

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The salts contained are ammonium alum. The claim is that the alum molecules are too big to be absorbed into the body.


yes this seems very hand-wavy to me. There are plenty of large molecular weight molecules that can be absorbed through the skin. I'm not saying I wouldn't use it, but would really like to see this study they quote.

Also it's preventing cells from producing sweat so I'm assuming it gets absorbed to a certain degree.

yeah I used to work at a health food store and customers would ask me this all the time, if the aluminum in the crystals was safe. I dunno, it seems hand-wavy to me too.

not that I really worry about the aluminum thing either way, just not sure the crystals are really that different.

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The salts contained are ammonium alum. The claim is that the alum molecules are too big to be absorbed into the body.


yes this seems very hand-wavy to me. There are plenty of large molecular weight molecules that can be absorbed through the skin. I'm not saying I wouldn't use it, but would really like to see this study they quote.

Also it's preventing cells from producing sweat so I'm assuming it gets absorbed to a certain degree.



Hmm, interesting. Well, I am gonna keep using it until I'm done, because I would hate to waste. But it's good to know now! I bought it when I first became vegan, if that explains much. lol.


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Hmm, interesting. Well, I am gonna keep using it until I'm done, because I would hate to waste. But it's good to know now! I bought it when I first became vegan, if that explains much. That's very funny!.



Yep, I also bought mine when I went vegan. Then I looked at the back of the package when I got home and was surprised to see it contained aluminum, and I felt like I'd been scammed. I still used it though, and I also still use other Al-containing deodorants because they're the only type that work. I just thought I would mention that the crystal might not be safer.

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The salts contained are ammonium alum. The claim is that the alum molecules are too big to be absorbed into the body.


yes this seems very hand-wavy to me. There are plenty of large molecular weight molecules that can be absorbed through the skin. I'm not saying I wouldn't use it, but would really like to see this study they quote.

Also it's preventing cells from producing sweat so I'm assuming it gets absorbed to a certain degree.

i thought that the aluminum salts were only supposed to provide an inhospitable environment for bacteria so you don't stink, not prevent you from sweating.

i sweat when i use the deodorant crystal. am i not supposed to?

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I don't know, I just read that Dr. Mercola recommends avoiding ammonium alum, so that's got to mean it's not that bad.

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