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 Post subject: Anne Frank: Victim of Nazi Atrocities or Potential Belieber?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:00 pm 
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"If Anne Frank had not died in a Nazi concentration camp in 1945, Justin Bieber hopes she would have been his devoted fan."

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/14/showbiz/bieber-anne-frank/index.html

Ach du Bieber! While I obviously can't speak for Miss Frank, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that, even if she had survived her incarceration, it strikes me as somewhat doubtful that an elderly, German Jewish woman would be a "belieber." (Nice of him to condescend to calling her a "great girl," though!)

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Hahahah. i heard about this, but didn't hear all the details. it's sad, but also funny, how he clearly has no idea how to be a normal human being with normal human emotions. He's just this pop star that assumes the world is in love with him. I hope someone was able to explain to him why he shouldn't have said that. I wonder if he has any people in his life that don't suck up to him?

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 Post subject: Re: Anne Frank: Victim of Nazi Atrocities or Potential Belie
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he lives in a bubble and has no idea how to conduct himself...... he'll learn when to speak and when to stick to the script eventually

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 Post subject: Re: Anne Frank: Victim of Nazi Atrocities or Potential Belie
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But he wasn't born in a celebrity bubble, was he? Presumably he had some formal education, somewhere along the way? Nineteen certainly seems old enough to comprehend that the casualties of a world war (theoretically) trump his fifteen minutes of fame? I can't even imagine someone as empty-headed as Sarah Palin putting their foot in it that squarely. (I mean, she'd have talked about how Anne Frank sewed the first American flag or something, but she probably wouldn't have suggested that Anne Frank would have voted for her. Then again, what do I know? I'm clearly living on the wrong planet.)

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Then again, what do I know? I'm clearly living on the wrong planet.

I think this more and more frequently these days.

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I don't know. I mean, I think the kid is repellently obnoxious, but hasn't he been in this worldwide craze fame bubble since he was 12 or 13? I think he had a stage mom and his behavior hasn't suggested any kind of firm grounding or good family support.

I wonder if all the privilege is going to compensate for what he's lost later in life. Think Lindsay Lohan (who I just feel profoundly sorry for).

Also, a lot of students sure lack any kind of awareness too, so I'd say it's a bigger problem than just him.

I'm not defending him, but Im not sure he is worth the snark effort.

What I mean to say, I guess, is that I just can't imagine the entitlement complex I see in my students magnified by insane celeb circumstances. It's like not getting your Gremlin wet.

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But he wasn't born in a celebrity bubble, was he? Presumably he had some formal education, somewhere along the way? Nineteen certainly seems old enough to comprehend that the casualties of a world war (theoretically) trump his fifteen minutes of fame? I can't even imagine someone as empty-headed as Sarah Palin putting their foot in it that squarely. (I mean, she'd have talked about how Anne Frank sewed the first American flag or something, but she probably wouldn't have suggested that Anne Frank would have voted for her. Then again, what do I know? I'm clearly living on the wrong planet.)


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While searching for videos of a different singer, Scooter Braun, a former marketing executive of So So Def, clicked on one of Bieber's 2007 videos by accident. Impressed, Braun tracked down the theater Bieber was performing in, located Bieber's school, and finally contacted Mallette, who was reluctant because of Braun's Jewish religion; she remembered praying, "God, I gave him to you. You could send me a Christian man, a Christian label!... you don’t want this Jewish kid to be Justin’s man, do you?"[19] However, after praying with her church elders and receiving their encouragement, she permitted Braun to fly Bieber, then 13,[11] to Atlanta, Georgia, to record demo tapes.[19] A week after arriving, Bieber sang for R&B singer/songwriter Usher.[27]


Sounds like Justin was born into...something.

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Well on the bright side, he might know what Germany is now.

But yeah, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that the biggest downside to dying of Typhus at Bergen-Belsen is not missing the opportunity to hear the lilting melodies of Justin Bieber's voice 60 years later.


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I think statements like that show how vacant people's heads are.


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Fee wrote:
Desdemona wrote:
But he wasn't born in a celebrity bubble, was he? Presumably he had some formal education, somewhere along the way? Nineteen certainly seems old enough to comprehend that the casualties of a world war (theoretically) trump his fifteen minutes of fame? I can't even imagine someone as empty-headed as Sarah Palin putting their foot in it that squarely. (I mean, she'd have talked about how Anne Frank sewed the first American flag or something, but she probably wouldn't have suggested that Anne Frank would have voted for her. Then again, what do I know? I'm clearly living on the wrong planet.)


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While searching for videos of a different singer, Scooter Braun, a former marketing executive of So So Def, clicked on one of Bieber's 2007 videos by accident. Impressed, Braun tracked down the theater Bieber was performing in, located Bieber's school, and finally contacted Mallette, who was reluctant because of Braun's Jewish religion; she remembered praying, "God, I gave him to you. You could send me a Christian man, a Christian label!... you don’t want this Jewish kid to be Justin’s man, do you?"[19] However, after praying with her church elders and receiving their encouragement, she permitted Braun to fly Bieber, then 13,[11] to Atlanta, Georgia, to record demo tapes.[19] A week after arriving, Bieber sang for R&B singer/songwriter Usher.[27]


Sounds like Justin was born into...something.
Indeed it does. Oh, my anti-Semitic goodness. (And I just have to say that this reinforces my original hypothesis that the by now nearly 84-year-old Ms Frank would not, in fact, have been a believer.)

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Someone on Larisa's FB feed said it really well. The thing about Anne Frank was that she was an ordinary teenager in extraordinary times, and as an ordinary teen she may well have been like any other 13 year old today and been a Belieber.

Its still a bit hubrisy though

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He needs to come visits the holocaust museum and then read Night.

Of course, he would probably just end up one of those "Christians" who have to do the abortion comparison on their way out. See, the Duggars, etc

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Holocaust victim? I need to make this all about meeeeee.

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He needs to come visits the holocaust museum and then read Night.

Of course, he would probably just end up one of those "Christians" who have to do the abortion comparison on their way out. See, the Duggars, etc


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I literally cannot beliebe it. It's disjusting.

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mumbles keeps making me laugh inappropriately in this thread.

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Frankly, its justinbeliebable.

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Frankly, its justinbeliebable.

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I don't know if it's so much that he's ridiculous or that people below the age of 70 these days are ridiculous. An awful lot of people (not even that young) think the world revolves around them and don't have a thought in their head to any sort of history or context.

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I don't know if it's so much that he's ridiculous or that people below the age of 70 these days are ridiculous. An awful lot of people (not even that young) think the world revolves around them and don't have a thought in their head to any sort of history or context.

This is what I was thinking too. honestly at the age of 34 I feel I have more in common with those over 70 most of the time, these days.

I actually find this whole thing to be really funny though, maybe I'm letting off steam after the events today in Boston.

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i think a lot of these young celebs that hit super stardom at a young age were basically groomed from birth to be super famous and weren't ever expected to do anything else like study or do good in school or have responsibilites outside of becoming famous.

i remember reading some blurb about Jessica Simpson once about why she was such a slob and her mom basically said they never expected her to do chores or clean up her room or anything and her mom did everything for her because Jessica was busy working on her "career"

or something..........

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I don't know if it's so much that he's ridiculous or that people below the age of 70 these days are ridiculous. An awful lot of people (not even that young) think the world revolves around them and don't have a thought in their head to any sort of history or context.

This is what I was thinking too. honestly at the age of 34 I feel I have more in common with those over 70 most of the time, these days.

I actually find this whole thing to be really funny though, maybe I'm letting off steam after the events today in Boston.


There is also the fact that the story of Anne Frank has been so twisted and hijacked people believe all sorts of things about her that simply are not true.

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I don't know if it's so much that he's ridiculous or that people below the age of 70 these days are ridiculous. An awful lot of people (not even that young) think the world revolves around them and don't have a thought in their head to any sort of history or context.

This is what I was thinking too. honestly at the age of 34 I feel I have more in common with those over 70 most of the time, these days.

I actually find this whole thing to be really funny though, maybe I'm letting off steam after the events today in Boston.

It is funny in that sad sort of way. Like it is when a 20 year old has their parents come to their college to yell at their professor for not turning in their papers and flunking their class. I don't know that J. Beiber is any more ridiculous, just more famous. The level of self absorption is through the daggone roof.

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What I mean to say, I guess, is that I just can't imagine the entitlement complex I see in my students magnified by insane celeb circumstances. It's like not getting your Gremlin wet.



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