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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 8:02 am 
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We ended up buying the Clif bars (I won!) and today he ate one and declared it "fantastic." And then tried to lecture me on how it wasn't vegan because of the "may contain traces of milk" warning on the package.

He was probably trying to convince himself it wasn't vegan because he didn't want to admit that he liked something that was.

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:21 am 
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Y'all, if the Pilgrims had been vegan, we wouldn't have turkey and stuffing at Thanksgiving. If that's not a solid reason for factory farming, I don't know what is.
Plus they were religious fundamentalists, so that shiitake (along with genocide and imperialism) is divinely ordained!

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:57 pm 
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Y'all, if the Pilgrims had been vegan, we wouldn't have turkey and stuffing at Thanksgiving. If that's not a solid reason for factory farming, I don't know what is.
Plus they were religious fundamentalists, so that shiitake (along with genocide and imperialism) is divinely ordained!

Also, if the world were vegan, the Dallas Cowboys and Chicago Bulls wouldn't exist. These are serious issues that vegans don't think about enough.


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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
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My vegan pet peeve of the day is forking rude hipster vegans. There must be nice, friendly, down to earth vegans in this city, but I have managed to meet all the crassholes.


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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
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Apparently beans and legume s contain "anti nutrients" so they are only to be eaten by adults, sprouted and in Small amounts. This paleo garbage brought to you by an IIN graduate.

I cld argue but the stupid is too strong. The mom s group I am in has so many Paleo and WAPF people. They are all so nice but they take the nutritional advice of those groups with no criticism

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 8:35 am 
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Apparently beans and legume s contain "anti nutrients" so they are only to be eaten by adults, sprouted and in Small amounts. This paleo garbage brought to you by an IIN graduate.

I cld argue but the stupid is too strong. The mom s group I am in has so many Paleo and WAPF people. They are all so nice but they take the nutritional advice of those groups with no criticism


You could just remind them that in the exact same sense of the word calcium is an "anti-nutrient" because it interferes with iron absorption. Then just let them chase their tails trying to figure out how to rationalize their milk consumption.


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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
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I don't think paleo people generally eat any dairy.

When my sister was in her paleo-except-for-makers-mark phase, it seemed like raw vegan ingredients were pretty much the intersection of our diets.


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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
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I've never heard the word "anti-nutrient" before. Does it mean substance that inhibits the adsorption of other nutrients (like calcium and iron) or actual toxins?

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:39 am 
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Anti-nutrient usually means something that inhibits absorption of vitamins and minerals. Grains and legumes absolutely contain these, but luckily cooking, sprouting, or fermenting are similarly good at destroying many of these molecules. Also, the other side of this is that vegans tend to eat more iron than omnis to begin with, so it's not actually a danger to the overall nutrient density of your diet.


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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
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geez them paleos sure do have a strong anti-bean agenda.

how do people survive with no hummus in their life??????

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When my sister was in her paleo-except-for-makers-mark phase

This made me giggle!

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
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annak wrote:


When my sister was in her paleo-except-for-makers-mark phase

This made me giggle!
It's the next big thing!

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
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Tofulish wrote:
I've never heard the word "anti-nutrient" before. Does it mean substance that inhibits the adsorption of other nutrients (like calcium and iron) or actual toxins?


personally I read 'anti-nutrient' and assumed it must be some sort of nutrient with the same mass a regular one but with the opposite charge and that is subject to rapid decay.

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
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It dawned on me just today (because I am slow) that this whole paleo business is probably a campaign brought about by Big Ag.


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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
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Tofulish wrote:
I've never heard the word "anti-nutrient" before. Does it mean substance that inhibits the adsorption of other nutrients (like calcium and iron) or actual toxins?


personally I read 'anti-nutrient' and assumed it must be some sort of nutrient with the same mass a regular one but with the opposite charge and that is subject to rapid decay.


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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:19 pm 
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The other day one of my students was going on and on about how she hasn't been eating any grains or beans or root vegetables, or "even fruit" because it's all so heavy and she feels so great, and so on. I'm happy for her that she's feeling good, but is she really trying to convince me that strawberries are heavier than a big plate of meat?!! And I'm not super vocal about it, but all my students know I'm vegan, so it seemed extra insensitive. It was just so weird and annoying.

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
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Shy Mox wrote:
Badgermog wrote:
Tofulish wrote:
I've never heard the word "anti-nutrient" before. Does it mean substance that inhibits the adsorption of other nutrients (like calcium and iron) or actual toxins?


personally I read 'anti-nutrient' and assumed it must be some sort of nutrient with the same mass a regular one but with the opposite charge and that is subject to rapid decay.


I nearly snorted soda through my nose. Science jokes are the best jokes.


I know right??! I have just started a science based degree and so I am finding this type of humour far more amusing than it should be. Is there a thread for this crepe? There should be...

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:27 am 
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I know a paleo who drinks 6 glasses of milk for breakfast every day. Cause I guess back in the day cavemen used to chase down a lactating cow every morning and guzzle from the udder like crazy?


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According to Paleo...

Beans (including soy) = Lectins = badbadbad

Nevermind all of the nasty fat and cholesterol in all that meat they're eating.


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I know a paleo who drinks 6 glasses of milk for breakfast every day. Cause I guess back in the day cavemen used to chase down a lactating cow every morning and guzzle from the udder like crazy?

Oh my god. The idea of drinking 6 glasses of milk is making me feel barfy.

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i thought that dairy was not paleo?

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I know a paleo who drinks 6 glasses of milk for breakfast every day. Cause I guess back in the day cavemen used to chase down a lactating cow every morning and guzzle from the udder like crazy?

Oh my god. The idea of drinking 6 glasses of milk is making me feel barfy.


He's not paleo, but I know a guy who goes through several bags of milk a day (1 bag is approx 1.3 litres). We have a class together, and basically every class he shows up with a big glass, a bag, and the appropriate plastic container to hold the bag in, and goes through the entire thing over the course of the lecture. It's kinda scary! He argues that it's the most cost efficient source of calories on a student budget, but I am unconvinced.


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Alaina wrote:
I know a paleo who drinks 6 glasses of milk for breakfast every day. Cause I guess back in the day cavemen used to chase down a lactating cow every morning and guzzle from the udder like crazy?

Oh my god. The idea of drinking 6 glasses of milk is making me feel barfy.


He's not paleo, but I know a guy who goes through several bags of milk a day (1 bag is approx 1.3 litres). We have a class together, and basically every class he shows up with a big glass, a bag, and the appropriate plastic container to hold the bag in, and goes through the entire thing over the course of the lecture. It's kinda scary! He argues that it's the most cost efficient source of calories on a student budget, but I am unconvinced.


pretty sure that is cheap beer ;-)

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The other day one of my students was going on and on about how she hasn't been eating any grains or beans or root vegetables, or "even fruit" because it's all so heavy and she feels so great, and so on. I'm happy for her that she's feeling good, but is she really trying to convince me that strawberries are heavier than a big plate of meat?!! And I'm not super vocal about it, but all my students know I'm vegan, so it seemed extra insensitive. It was just so weird and annoying.

That is ridiculous! I feel really light after some wine and ice cream but I would prescribe it!

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