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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:59 am 
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Peeve - misinformation. Someone on the local vegan FB group just told someone that most liquid smoke contains soy*. No it doesn't - it contains smoke! That's what it is, and that's all it is!

*This is within a discussion about limiting/avoiding soy.

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:20 am 
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the liquid smoke in my pantry right now contains soy sauce, but i don't know how common/uncommon that is.

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
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Mine doesn't have soy.

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
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That's a really good point. The other day I saw someone on a vegan Facebook page say they were proud they had talked someone in the grocery line into leaving their pack of hotdogs and it would probably get thrown out because it had been out of the fridge. That didn't sit right with me.


Unless it's been out of the cooler for a crazy long time, they'd just put it back.

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
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Total first world problem but I HATE that in order to get tempeh bacon just slightly crispy I have to pretty much smoke out our entire apartment. Boooo.


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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
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My tempeh bacon never gets crispy. I don't think they should even call it bacon. It's just... smokey tempeh.


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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:06 pm 
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My tempeh bacon never gets crispy. I don't think they should even call it bacon. It's just... smokey tempeh.


Me too.

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
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tofucheez wrote:
This isn't really a peeve...it goes beyond that....like it super upsets me....but I'm posting it here anyway.

When people throw away animal products because they're too full/it's too salty/too spicy/can't be bothered to wrap it up for later/etc, etc, etc.

I mean, not only did that animal live a horrid life, then die for their lunch, but then get tossed in the trash without a thought.


That's a really good point. The other day I saw someone on a vegan Facebook page say they were proud they had talked someone in the grocery line into leaving their pack of hotdogs and it would probably get thrown out because it had been out of the fridge. That didn't sit right with me.


I would be surprised if they didn't just put it back in the refrigerator.
Yeah, hot dogs are still going to be just fine after the apocalypse. It'll be just them, Hostess Twinkies, cockroaches, and Keith Richards.

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
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Customer at work was talking about her diet, and she doesn't eat meat, dairy, or eggs, but eats fish. She was like "I'm almost vegan! But I eat fish. I guess I'm plant-powered!" It's really awesome that she doesn't eat all that stuff, but a fish is not a plant, and "plant-powered" is one of the most annoying fads ever.


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Desdemona wrote:
Yeah, hot dogs are still going to be just fine after the apocalypse. It'll be just them, Hostess Twinkies, cockroaches, and Keith Richards.

Ha! I have long since come to the conclusion that Keith will be here long after we are all gone.

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
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Another FB one here. An old friend posted a photo of about half a dozen deer grazing in her yard, captioned "Backyard visitors."
Multiple "likes" and comments along the lines of "How beautiful!" ensue. Then some d-bag posts "In Louisiana, we call that DINNER!!" and the original poster replies, "They aren't quite large enough yet and the freezer is full of venison. I recently made my grandmother's meatballs with venison and sweet italian sausage; it was wonderful. They are beautiful to watch in the evening, gamboling about the yard and into the trees."

I felt like responding, "Go to Google. Look up 'cognitive dissonance.' Then stop exemplifying it." But I'd just get piled on by a bunch of idiots, and I'm not in the mood or the emotional frame of mind for it.

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
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That our tour at Farm Sanctuary yesterday included the term "plant based" and a whole lot of specious health arguments.


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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
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Customer at work was talking about her diet, and she doesn't eat meat, dairy, or eggs, but eats fish. She was like "I'm almost vegan! But I eat fish. I guess I'm plant-powered!" It's really awesome that she doesn't eat all that stuff, but a fish is not a plant, and "plant-powered" is one of the most annoying fads ever.


"Almost vegans" are driving me nuts these days. They're omnivores. That's fine. One of my best friends doesn't eat meat and eats next to no dairy or eggs, but she still calls herself an omnivore because she feels it's the most accurate label. Jeez! Just own it, omnis!


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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
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Ugh. Someone on FB posted asking if anyone knows where to get free puppies because her cousin wants to get a dog. Another person commented that they should go to a shelter, because there are plenty of deserving dogs there. Said FB person then said their cousin can only afford to get a puppy if it's free. I normally try to ignore crepe like this, but I just couldn't. So I commented saying, "Puppies are pretty expensive to take care of. Between shots, getting fixed, training classes, food, toys, ect. it adds up quick. If she can't afford to pay an adoption fee, she should probably wait to get get a dog :)." And then I blocked her from my news feed. Why the hell do people think it's a good idea to get a pet if they can't afford it?!?!


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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
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Customer at work was talking about her diet, and she doesn't eat meat, dairy, or eggs, but eats fish. She was like "I'm almost vegan! But I eat fish. I guess I'm plant-powered!" It's really awesome that she doesn't eat all that stuff, but a fish is not a plant, and "plant-powered" is one of the most annoying fads ever.


"Almost vegans" are driving me nuts these days. They're omnivores. That's fine. One of my best friends doesn't eat meat and eats next to no dairy or eggs, but she still calls herself an omnivore because she feels it's the most accurate label. Jeez! Just own it, omnis!


I had this argument with my coworker today. He said, "Isn't that militant?" and I said, "No. It's a definition. If someone else calls themselves vegan and they eat fish/cheese/whatever not vegan thing, then it makes it that much harder for actual vegans."
He totally didn't get it.

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
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so who woulda thunk but i got upset about an insensitive facebook post!

it's one of those people who i don't understand how i got to be fb friends with. she posts: ten years ago today at [fast food chain] i decided to become vegetarian. i celebrated that night by eating ribs and wings at [same fast food chain]. while i do love ribs, i think i'll be continuing another 10 years of vegetarianism.

what the what??? i want to post something nasty and snarky but that's hardly good for the cause (or my psyche).


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It's stupid and doesn't make sense, but 19 years and 364 days of not eating animals is still 19 years and 364 days of not eating animals.

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chouettes crêpes wrote:
so who woulda thunk but i got upset about an insensitive facebook post!

it's one of those people who i don't understand how i got to be fb friends with. she posts: ten years ago today at [fast food chain] i decided to become vegetarian. i celebrated that night by eating ribs and wings at [same fast food chain]. while i do love ribs, i think i'll be continuing another 10 years of vegetarianism.

what the what??? i want to post something nasty and snarky but that's hardly good for the cause (or my psyche).

I don't understand? Aren't they just saying that they ate meat on their last day as an omni' and while they still like the taste of meat even ten years on they're sticking to the decision to stay veg? The 'that night' indicates the past to me. I don't read it as 'I tried ribs again after ten years of being veg', if that's how you're reading it?

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No vegan alternatives for standard dental care (I'm getting 3 fillings today, better believe it with novocain and who knows what else). I don't want to google the usual ingredients because, I don't want to know. At the same time, I'm pretty damn annoyed that that stuff is not better labelled and that there aren't (any?) reasonable, definitely vegan alternatives.

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My peeve of the moment... I was a vegetarian for a looong time before I switched to vegan, and for many years frequented a local vegetarian restaurant that specialises in Northern Italian and French cuisine. I always enjoyed the food there but it's all very rich and heavily reliant on dairy, so the irony is, I can now go to omni restaurants that cater to vegans, but this vegetarian restaurant doesn't have anything on the menu I can eat (maybe a garden salad). In conversation with the owner, I asked if he'd thought of having some vegan dishes on the menu, and his reply was that he doesn't see his restaurant as being about "health food" but sees it as "indulgent" and made a point of saying he doesn't even market it as a vegetarian eatery, but as "sustainable" (as though "vegetarian" has a negative connotation?). This peeves me firstly because I can't even imagine how you can be a vegetarian chef for decades and still think all vegan food is about health and can't be every bit as delicious and indulgent as any other kind of cuisine (and anyway, so many healthy foods *are* delicious). Also, as far as sustainability goes, raising animals for food, including dairy, and particularly cheese (which there is *a lot* of at this restaurant) is not sustainable anyway. I just thought that was a weird attitude coming from a dedicated vegetarian chef.

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chouettes crêpes wrote:
so who woulda thunk but i got upset about an insensitive facebook post!

it's one of those people who i don't understand how i got to be fb friends with. she posts: ten years ago today at [fast food chain] i decided to become vegetarian. i celebrated that night by eating ribs and wings at [same fast food chain]. while i do love ribs, i think i'll be continuing another 10 years of vegetarianism.

what the what??? i want to post something nasty and snarky but that's hardly good for the cause (or my psyche).

I don't understand? Aren't they just saying that they ate meat on their last day as an omni' and while they still like the taste of meat even ten years on they're sticking to the decision to stay veg? The 'that night' indicates the past to me. I don't read it as 'I tried ribs again after ten years of being veg', if that's how you're reading it?


This was how I read it too.

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I had this argument with my coworker today. He said, "Isn't that militant?" and I said, "No. It's a definition. If someone else calls themselves vegan and they eat fish/cheese/whatever not vegan thing, then it makes it that much harder for actual vegans."
He totally didn't get it.


This is one of the most annoying things, people calling vegans "militant" for not trying/eating/doing this or that. If we did, we wouldn't be vegan! You can't be a vegan who "eats cheese occasionally." You could be a vegetarian who doesn't eat a lot of cheese. It just doesn't work that way!

I mean, to be fair, that lady didn't claim to be vegan. She was just trying to tell us she didn't eat a bunch of things and didn't know what to call herself. I think people forget about the lifestyle side of veganism though. It's not just about cutting out foods.


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Gosh darn it, those militant vegans ruining it for the rest of us vegans who eat fish and cheese.

My mom went vegan for a while but has a hard time eating beans and legumes and I think it has gotten worse as she has gotten older. And she wont eat tofu. So she added back some eggs. Then she started eating fish when she eats out because of my stepfather's whining about lack of places to eat out. She never called herself vegan or vegetarian though.

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SassyOh wrote:
creep wrote:
Customer at work was talking about her diet, and she doesn't eat meat, dairy, or eggs, but eats fish. She was like "I'm almost vegan! But I eat fish. I guess I'm plant-powered!" It's really awesome that she doesn't eat all that stuff, but a fish is not a plant, and "plant-powered" is one of the most annoying fads ever.


"Almost vegans" are driving me nuts these days. They're omnivores. That's fine. One of my best friends doesn't eat meat and eats next to no dairy or eggs, but she still calls herself an omnivore because she feels it's the most accurate label. Jeez! Just own it, omnis!


I saw someone arguing on Facebook last night that she is a "pescar vegan"...defined by her as a vegan who eats fish...and that this is a valid type of veganism as designated by some made-up book called "Types of Vegans for Dummies." Several people told her why she should not use the word vegan, because she is pescetarian and it causes confusion for people who actually ARE vegan, because it gives credence to the mistaken notion that vegans eat fish.


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