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 Post subject: need to bisque because what the fizzle
PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 2:58 pm 
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Ooookay. so i'm super not used to being around non-veg-friendly people. not all of my friends are non-meat-eaters, but many of them are and the rest are very open-minded and not at all obnoxious or judgy judgy (as i am not of them).

i have a job. i like my job. i like the people i work with. i like the particular individual i'm about to complain with.

i cook my lunch at home and bring it and eat it, and basically every day people are like "oooooooooh that smells goooood mmmmm you're soooo healthyyyy wooow" and this guy is a total sweetheart, and he's among them.

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"Wow, that smells really good! but oh yeah, i wouldn't eat it because i'm not vegan."


uh...?


"Oh. it's just... indian food," I say. "I mean, I cooked it. But you've probably eaten it before. At like an Indian restaurant. Unless you never get anything without meat."

"yeah," he says, "i always get things with meat at indian restaurants."

"oh," I say. "well hm."


what the fizzle!?!?!?! is it not a SUPER rude thing to say?? "Wow that smells great but your freakish vegan food freaks me out." PS IT'S JUST INDIAN FOOD YOU DOUCHE! indian food which is, with the subtraction of ghee, quite frequently vegan ANYWAY! i'm not like oozing nooch out of my bowl; there's not even any tofu or seitan in sight (it was an incredibly delicious spicy pumkin/daikon/carrot/kale/chickpea conglomerate with brown rice). and even if there WAS tofu or seitan, PEOPLE EAT TOFU AND SEITAN!


the thing is, he wasn't intending to be rue. it's just that there's this mindset that if something is Vegan-With-a-Capital-V then you "can't have it" because you "eat meat"


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 Post subject: Re: need to bisque because what the fizzle
PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:01 pm 
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I don't think it's really rude, it's just kind of a weird statement.

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 Post subject: Re: need to bisque because what the fizzle
PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:29 pm 
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Maybe he was having an 'off' day?

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:34 pm 
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that is really strange, I'd probably ask what his point was? A lot of my family eats meat and they don't mind eating vegan food-it's not like they have a vegan allergy if they consume meat.


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 Post subject: Re: need to bisque because what the fizzle
PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:41 pm 
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Yeah, that doesn't really sound rude to me. It does sound like a great opportunity to open his mind, like--"really? you never eat cupcakes/bread/crackers/beans/salad/pasta? If I made something super super delicious would you be willing to take a little bite?"

People definitely have an idea of what "vegan" food is and I get that it can weird them out because it used to weird me out until people shared their food with me. It's pretty normal to be wary of the unknown.

But I'm sorry it ticked you off--obviously we're not getting the whole context and sometimes those comments can be annoying, even if they weren't intended to be.


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 Post subject: Re: need to bisque because what the fizzle
PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:46 pm 
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Aliks wrote:
that is really strange, I'd probably ask what his point was?


I would ask too. "That's great. And what exactly is your point?"

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:57 pm 
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Not rude, just silly.

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 Post subject: Re: need to bisque because what the fizzle
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Maybe he's confused. If a vegan where to eat a meaty meal every once in a while then they would not be a vegan. So maybe he's reversed this and thinks that if an omnivore occasionally eats a vegan meal they will cease to be an omnivore! ( No, I don't really think he thinks this, but my response would have probably been based on pretending that was what I thought he was thinking.)

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 Post subject: Re: need to bisque because what the fizzle
PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:35 pm 
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It's one of those strange things-some people presume "vegan" means "weird". My brother once asked me if I had "normal" ketchup. Many folks don't even realize that just by eating spaghetti with plain tomato sauce, they are eating a vegan meal.


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 Post subject: Re: need to bisque because what the fizzle
PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 6:21 pm 
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I think sometimes it's not a vegan-not vegan thing. Sometimes it's just a communication fail. People can be dumb.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:14 pm 
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I don't think it was particularly rude, just kind of an odd statement. A lot of the time, people just assume the label "vegan" means weird automatically. People eat vegan food every day!


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 Post subject: Re: need to bisque because what the fizzle
PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:25 pm 
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I don't think I had ever eaten a vegan meal until I went vegetarian, and even then, it was rare. Unless you count Oreos and Dr. Pepper as a meal.

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 Post subject: Re: need to bisque because what the fizzle
PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:39 pm 
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I wouldn't find it that rude. I would probably just laugh, and ask what life is like without eating fruit/salad/hummus/multitude of other things that 'normal' people eat without associating it with being vegan.

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 Post subject: Re: need to bisque because what the fizzle
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Unless you count Oreos and Dr. Pepper as a meal.

Bottom of the food pyramid, dude.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:07 pm 
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not rude at all


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 Post subject: Re: need to bisque because what the fizzle
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I get things like that a lot. Like people have to have meat. All the time. They'll say things like "we can't go to that [vegan] restaurant because there's nothing for me to eat."

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 Post subject: Re: need to bisque because what the fizzle
PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:20 pm 
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I always want to ask people like that, "Really? So you've never had a peanut butter and jelly sandwich?"

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:04 pm 
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monkeytoes wrote:
I always want to ask people like that, "Really? So you've never had a peanut butter and jelly sandwich?"


HA me too!


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 Post subject: Re: need to bisque because what the fizzle
PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:13 pm 
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ooooooh posting when you're all pissed off. :) my coworker is a total sweetheart and i know he had no intention of being rude. it just struck me as odd. i went on a walk with my (omni) brother right afterwards and he was like, "weird, so chickpeas are too vegan too eat if you're officially an omnivore?" ....the responders who said things like "normal ketchup, please?" and "no pbj, ever?" are essentially what i felt like. not a rude statement, or at least not intentionally, but certainly one that made me scratch my head thinking, why do you think that something entirely normal is bizarre not because of its inherent bizarreness, but because *i*-- who am (is?)(are?)(hehe) vegan--- am consuming it?


is "who am vegan" grammatical? i'm gonna go with no. but y'know :)


aaaaanyway. i should have took a breather before clicking submit :)


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 Post subject: Re: need to bisque because what the fizzle
PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:58 am 
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I got that same response when I made spaghetti for my sister and her husband. He asked if it was vegan and then asked for something else with meat in it.

Really? SPAGHETTI?


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Rhizopus Oligosporus wrote:
Maybe he's confused. If a vegan where to eat a meaty meal every once in a while then they would not be a vegan. So maybe he's reversed this and thinks that if an omnivore occasionally eats a vegan meal they will cease to be an omnivore! ( No, I don't really think he thinks this, but my response would have probably been based on pretending that was what I thought he was thinking.)


This.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 3:35 am 
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I get things like that a lot. Like people have to have meat. All the time. They'll say things like "we can't go to that [vegan] restaurant because there's nothing for me to eat."


Exactly. This happens to me all the time and it drives me CRAZY! Like...dude, you can go for one meal without forking meat. In fact, by taking you to a veg restaurant I would be doing your body a favor and giving it a much needed break from unhealthy flesh thanksverymuch.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:53 am 
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I made cup cakes to take into work and one of my colleagues was really unsure whether to eat one as they were vegan as someone had told him they were (i generally don't tell people until they're eaten them, told me how great they are, etc)

He was like, 'but what do you put in it???! i don't think i can eat it'.
It ended up he thought it was great but was amazed that it could be.

This guy is a doctor...


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I always want to ask people like that, "Really? So you've never had a peanut butter and jelly sandwich?"


I always ask where they buy their non-vegan apples.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:14 am 
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Maybe he was having an 'off' day?



never underestimate the power of someone's off day. it's like a ripple effect, i tells ya. 90% of the craptastic spew that comes out of my piehole is unintended because i'm an awkward, and nebbish fool.

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