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 Post subject: Re: things that got the name of a place for (obscur) reasons
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Your mom is racist.

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And, it seems, Danish pastry is from Vienna.


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What about Vienna fingers?

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 Post subject: Re: things that got the name of a place for (obscur) reasons
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I've seen a bunch of restaurants serving Indian Chinese food -- the stuff that's served at Chinese restaurants in India, which is totally different from the stuff served at Chinese restaurants in the US, neither of which bear much resemblance to the food served in China.

Also, anything "Florentine" means with spinach. Why?

I've got a vegetarian cookbook from 1914 where a whole ton of the recipes are just one basic thing, made in a bunch of different "ethnic" styles. Like, there's Nut Loaf; and then Nut Loaf Spanish Style, which I think meant with tomatoes; then Nut Loaf Mexican Style, which would have tomatoes and onions, and then a few other styles that I don't remember. Practically every recipe had these same variations.


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 Post subject: Re: things that got the name of a place for (obscur) reasons
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intrtesting - I'd be curious to try that since I'm a huge fan of actual spanish rice and the way they make it taste (...usual suspect: olive oil)

a spanish colleague told me once that spanish rices are commonly used for sushis (like, worldwide but japan) - well that s what I do but ¿


Spanish rice in the US is also called red rice. I assume it is called Spanish rice because of the language of those that make it. It is a common recipe in Mexico and among Mexican-Americans. I'm not sure if other areas make it. The rice is toasted in oil (olive oil or canola), sometimes sautéed with onions then tomato sauce, broth (or water) is added. Diced carrots or peas are sometimes added.

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intrtesting - I'd be curious to try that since I'm a huge fan of actual spanish rice and the way they make it taste (...usual suspect: olive oil)

a spanish colleague told me once that spanish rices are commonly used for sushis (like, worldwide but japan) - well that s what I do but ¿


Spanish rice in the US is also called red rice. I assume it is called Spanish rice because of the language of those that make it. It is a common recipe in Mexico and among Mexican-Americans. I'm not sure if other areas make it. The rice is toasted in oil (olive oil or canola), sometimes sautéed with onions then tomato sauce, broth (or water) is added. Diced carrots or peas are sometimes added.

my first exposure to spanish rice was in one of those rice-a-roni-style boxed mixes, so i think it's fairly common in the u.s.

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 Post subject: Re: things that got the name of a place for (obscur) reasons
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..annnnnnd: wikipedia says mexican wedding cookies are also called "Russian tea cakes" !


I never heard them called Mexican wedding cookies until a year or two ago. I grew up calling them Russian tea cakes or butterballs.

I'm curious if a Danish actually comes from Denmark? I've never really given that much thought.

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 Post subject: Re: things that got the name of a place for (obscur) reasons
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Emilie wrote:
intrtesting - I'd be curious to try that since I'm a huge fan of actual spanish rice and the way they make it taste (...usual suspect: olive oil)

a spanish colleague told me once that spanish rices are commonly used for sushis (like, worldwide but japan) - well that s what I do but ¿


Spanish rice in the US is also called red rice. I assume it is called Spanish rice because of the language of those that make it. It is a common recipe in Mexico and among Mexican-Americans. I'm not sure if other areas make it. The rice is toasted in oil (olive oil or canola), sometimes sautéed with onions then tomato sauce, broth (or water) is added. Diced carrots or peas are sometimes added.

my first exposure to spanish rice was in one of those rice-a-roni-style boxed mixes, so i think it's fairly common in the u.s.


Well I meant in other Latin American countries. Usually in other Latin American cuisines, I've had white rice or brothy rice but not red rice.

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 Post subject: Re: things that got the name of a place for (obscur) reasons
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Before I was aware of hamburgers as a kid, I knew Hamburg of course... confused me. A lot.
And yeah, the old Berliner-not-being-called-Berliner-in-Berlin. But - pancakes. And yes, this is filled doughnuts.

ETA: And French toast is called Armer Ritter in Germany which means Poor Knight.


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French toast in Dutch is "wentelteefjes". "Wentel" = turn/flip, "teefjes" = small bisques (as in female dogs, not the invective). I've never thought to consider the literal meaning of the word. Huh...

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Thousand island dressing.

That was one of my favorite pregan dressings. Where is the Thousand Island? Do Thousand Islanders dislike this dressing having their name?

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Before I was aware of hamburgers as a kid, I knew Hamburg of course... confused me. A lot.
And yeah, the old Berliner-not-being-called-Berliner-in-Berlin. But - pancakes. And yes, this is filled doughnuts.

ETA: And French toast is called Armer Ritter in Germany which means Poor Knight.



And: do Hamburgers call hamburgers hamburgers?

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Thousand island dressing.

That was one of my favorite pregan dressings. Where is the Thousand Island? Do Thousand Islanders dislike this dressing having their name?


Thousand Islands are in Southern Ontario/Upstate New York. It's lovely there! No idea if the dressing comes from there, though.

ETA: Wikipedia says no.

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Thousand Island dressing was named for the chain of islands by the actress who popularised the dressing, May Irwin, stating that she thought the chopped vegetables in the dressing looked like the Thousand Islands region.[7][8]

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In Dutch, steak tartare on bread is known as Filet Americain.


Oh I didn't know it was called filet américain in dutch as well. That's also how they say in Wallonia (L'américain préparé is a widely spread dish there -commonly eaten on a sandwich or just with salad and no adjective Fries .

(Even though we know that Americans would probably not eat such raw meat) (Wikipedia says the Tartar did, though. Seems the French are right)

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I think one of the funniest things is pizza americana (this is supposedly from a restaurant in Italy)
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In France (maybe just the North?) we have American sandwiches - doner kebab and fries in a baguette.

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In French that's a Spanish hashbrown! Where do these things come from??


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Emilie wrote:
jerusha wrote:
Before I was aware of hamburgers as a kid, I knew Hamburg of course... confused me. A lot.
And yeah, the old Berliner-not-being-called-Berliner-in-Berlin. But - pancakes. And yes, this is filled doughnuts.

ETA: And French toast is called Armer Ritter in Germany which means Poor Knight.



And: do Hamburgers call hamburgers hamburgers?


I assumed they are called just burgers nowadays... Does McD even still sell hamburgers or only fancy ones?


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In Dutch, steak tartare on bread is known as Filet Americain.


Oh I didn't know it was called filet américain in dutch as well. That's also how they say in Wallonia (L'américain préparé is a widely spread dish there -commonly eaten on a sandwich or just with salad and no adjective Fries .

(Even though we know that Americans would probably not eat such raw meat) (Wikipedia says the Tartar did, though. Seems the French are right)


Yeah, in NL they say "Filet Americain". My Flemish partner (Oost Vlaanderen) calls it "préparé", which for some reason to me sounds like something that should be on a petri dish. (And considering the bacterial load of raw meat, probably should.)

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ETA: And French toast is called Armer Ritter in Germany which means Poor Knight.


It's called "fattiga riddare" in Swedish, which means the same thing only in plural.

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And, it seems, Danish pastry is from Vienna.


We call it wienerbröd in Swedish, which means Viennese bread. It's still thought of as a typically Danish thing though.

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Horse> cowboys > USA

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sounds like something that should be on a petri dish. (And considering the bacterial load of raw meat, probably should.)


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French toast in Dutch is "wentelteefjes". "Wentel" = turn/flip, "teefjes" = small bisques (as in female dogs, not the invective). I've never thought to consider the literal meaning of the word. Huh...

My sister calls it flipping a bisque when someone turns tightly into a diagonal parking space in a parking lot from the wrong direction. Next time we're out somewhere I'm going to tell her to just french toast herself right into that spot.

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In France (maybe just the North?) we have American sandwiches - doner kebab and fries in a baguette.


Funny, when I went to Greece, almost all the street Gyros I encountered had fries in them. Someone said it was because that was what Americans liked.

(and I've never seen fries on a pizza or in a sandwich in the US. I'm actually very picky about my fries, they have to be separate from the rest of my food, just fries, no sauce and ketchup has to be on the side.)

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Buffet is called "Swedish table" here, because of smörgåsbord.


that's not TOO strange, swedes sure do love their buffets. here, buffets are pretty rare and considered kind of low class, but in sweden (which is 20 mins from here by train) buffets are EVERYWHERE. i have to admit, the swedish restaurant culture is not exactly my cup of tea..


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Ha! I hate buffets myself, except in the form of Indian food for some reason. But food sitting out for hours isn't really what I'd consider a good thing.

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