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 Post subject: Re: Women who have chosen not to have kids
PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:27 am 
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i guess if you want a quite meal you are a child predator?

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haha adultism is racism but against kids.

Also, I think kids are birth control for those that don't want them. Considering there are a lot of pressure to have kids, being around kids, even kids you love and enjoy, makes you realize that you don't want to be around kids 24/7. I don't hate kids, I quite like kids but I don't think parents help them be welcome everywhere.

For instance, I have dogs, two rambunctious dogs. At first, I had an ideal that I could take them to PetSmart or other places. After dog training of both my dogs, they are better but they are still not the most behaved dogs. So we adjust our activities with them. If we decided that we had a right to take them everywhere that dogs are at anytime, then I think it would be unfair to other people. It could also potentially give people a certain bad impression about dogs.

I think the same thing goes for parents and kids. Kids don't have the right to be in any space on any day just because. If a kid is having a bad day, maybe it is best that they are engaged in another activity in a more private space. If you know that your baby has a high chance of crying, why take them to a place that would disturb others such as a movie? I think if parents would have a little more consideration then it'd be best for everyone.

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My favorite part was where she said her kids were a blessing to everyone. Ha ha, no.

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haha adultism is racism but against kids.

why isn't it called kidism?

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 Post subject: Re: Women who have chosen not to have kids
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lately when i go to book stores i hear kids scream and cry. do parents think it's okay since they have children's books to bring ill behaved children into the store? it is not darling or cute. same with trying to have my date night with my guy on saturday - eating at a restaurant (the only time in the week i am not cooking) and have kids running around, loud, screaming. it is not nice. i do not hate children, i hate parents who think that i am rude when i give them 'the look' when their kids are rude.

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 Post subject: Re: Women who have chosen not to have kids
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lately when i go to book stores i hear kids scream and cry. do parents think it's okay since they have children's books to bring ill behaved children into the store?


In my experience of more than 15 years working in a bookstore, the answer to this question is "yes". Some parents also think it's ok to leave their kids in the the kids' section to go browse on another floor. (Because apparently, "baby sitting" is in my job description.) For older and well-behaved kids, this is certainly ok. But I've seen people do this with toddlers. They'll plop them down with a picture book in the middle of the floor and then proceed to ignore their child for 45 minutes. Or let their bored kids run in circles around the stacks screaming while they browse. The mind boggles.

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 Post subject: Re: Women who have chosen not to have kids
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i worked at a boom store for a bit in my 20s...the small kid's section was grimy. crunched up cereal & crackers and what appeared to be a poo smear on a book. why????

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 Post subject: Re: Women who have chosen not to have kids
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This is only tangentially related to family-only parking spots, and I think it's kind of older news anyway, but look! South Korea has installed women-only parking spots in Seoul that are longer, wider, and marked in pink. Because my big floppy labia make it soooo hard to park!

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Oh, Korea. These are not new, by the way (although I had mostly seen them in shopping malls, because what else do women do with their days?)


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I thought I'd seen them before! Not sure why they're in the news again all of a sudden.

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wow! the 2nd photo makes them look insanely narrow, still.

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linanil wrote:
haha adultism is racism but against kids.

why isn't it called kidism?


I think it's like heterosexism/heteronormativity, like it's pointing out the privileging of that group.

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 Post subject: Re: Women who have chosen not to have kids
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aah! gotcha. that makes a lot of sense. thanks. :-)

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Erika Soyf*cker wrote:
Because my big floppy labia make it soooo hard to park!


Iced coffee had never come out of my nose until now.


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Erika Soyf*cker wrote:
Because my big floppy labia make it soooo hard to park!

I'm going to have to sig this. Because it's too good not to.


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 Post subject: Re: Women who have chosen not to have kids
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A woman that I don't really work closely with, whom I don't know otherwise, just came in to introduce her 4 month old baby to me. But she didn't offer to let me hold her or anything. Should I have asked? I kind of had to pee, so I didn't want to get stuck holding a baby forever. I never know what to do when people show me their babies. Because sometimes they want you to hold them and touch them, and other times I've had my hands shooed away because of germs. I think maybe this lady wanted me to be more excited than I was.

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Yeah, I'm not too sure. Usually, the only babies I want to hold are those of my close friends, and therefore I feel comfortable enough asking "can I hold him/her?" or even "gimme that behbeh!" Otherwise, I'm usually like "yup, that's a baby, alright."

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I always feel bad that I don't get as jazzed about kids as their parents usually think I should be getting.


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last week i was having a post-work shaved ice with my guy...the table next to me had a bunch of kids, one being a lil baby boy. i was really involved in my flavor combo of my cup of shaved ice and did not notice the mom holding the baby up, she then looks at me and was like 'ohhh he likes you'. i turn and said to the baby/mom 'sorry dude, i am taken' and pointed to my boyfriend...i meant it to be funny and hope it was. i feel awkward around baby time show off. i am just like 'hi baby' let's move on...if it was a kitten - well, now that would be a different story!

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I was at the vet and a woman with a baby came in and everyone got up to look at her except me. I'm friends with the receptionist and she looked at me like 'aren't you going to come and see'? I don't dislike children I just don't care about seeing a stranger's newborn.

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Babies are cute and all, but I never know what to do with them when I'm handed one. There's a moment of "aw, cute! tiny human!", and then I'm basically done. It's all arm cramps after that.

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You want me to get excited about something? bring me a cat or dog.

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linanil wrote:
You want me to get excited about something? bring me a cat or dog.

quoted for troof!

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Hollie wrote:
I always feel bad that I don't get as jazzed about kids as their parents usually think I should be getting.


Yes. Especially if I don't even know the parents all that well. After "your baby is so cute" (which is often forced on my part, because 95% of babies look the same to me), I've played my whole deck.

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At the place where I last worked, employees would have their grown kids come in to parade their new grand-babies down the hall, stopping in every office to show off. Every time all the women in my office would flock to the new baby and swoon for a while. I usually just kept working. If it was the grandchild of someone I knew, I would swivel in my chair smile and say "how cute!" or something similar and then turn around. I think they just assumed it was because I don't have kids of my own yet. But of course "you'll feel different when you have your own!!".


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