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 Post subject: Re: Chef Alex Jamieson now eats meat
PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 6:56 pm 
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Yes. She's so great. Straight forward, honest and SCIENCE BASED. Gasp!

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 Post subject: Re: Chef Alex Jamieson now eats meat
PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 7:06 pm 
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That was brilliant! Thanks for posting!

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 Post subject: Re: Chef Alex Jamieson now eats meat
PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 7:10 pm 
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Thank you for posting that! I've never read that blog, but I think I'll be returning again :)


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 Post subject: Re: Chef Alex Jamieson now eats meat
PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 7:48 pm 
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it makes me wanna go back and rewatch supersize me to see what nutritional advice she was rolling her eyes at. i watched it so long ago before i was vegan so i have no memory of her other than her wrinkling up her nose at his idea (cant say i blame her on that end!)

Ginny also links to Jack Norris' thoughts on it.
http://jacknorrisrd.com/?p=3869

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 Post subject: Re: Chef Alex Jamieson now eats meat
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KAnn wrote:
I apologize if this is not the correct forum or if it has been mentioned and I have missed it, but I was very disappointed and sad to read on FB that Chef Alex Jamieson (featured in SuperSize Me, etc) has announced that not only is she no longer vegan, but she is eating meat. This is her explanation:
http://alexandrajamieson.com/im-not-vegan-anymore/

(I post here rarely but try to read often-have not had meat for over 35 years)


The best comment I read about this was on vegan.com's FB page. One of his group quoted Jameison as rehasing the tired old BS of voiceferous public ex-vegans of "I listened to my body and honord what it had to say". His reply to that sentiment was "I listened to my body and it thanked me for being vegan"

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 Post subject: Re: Chef Alex Jamieson now eats meat
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Instead of disgust, I started to salivate.


I almost stopped reading there, but I wanted to see if health issues were going to be mentioned. They weren't. She just wanted to eat meat again, so she did, and she goes on and on about shame so I guess we better not shame her and prove her right blah blah blah blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.


At least she is more honest than the other ex-vegans putting up blog posts full of psueudo facts to cover up their discomfort of their decision.

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Who was it that was deficient in circus peanuts?


I could eat those things until I pass out.

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 Post subject: Re: Chef Alex Jamieson now eats meat
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Tofulish wrote:
And I agree with idji, I don't care if you stop being vegan, but why write a huge blogpost justifying that you had to, even though you know all the benefits, the harms to the animals and the environment, because cravings.


I think that is exactly it. My personal theory is that at some level they know their decision is lame and by blogging about it they distract themselves from that.

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 Post subject: Re: Chef Alex Jamieson now eats meat
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Exactly, there's one or two hostile comments from vegans in the there and then of course everyone can point to that as a justification for everything. It's a total straw man argument. Or a red herring. I think.


Somebody tried that stunt on a speaker I was listening to yesterday. It was Mike Tidwell, a big shot enivornmentalist.

Some dude from the audience brought up a farmer in Virginia Michael Pollan described and asked Tidwell, several times, "do you see a world where meat consumption has a place". This was after Tidwell illustrated that in addition to transportation reform, meatless diets were the only effective moves for reducing global warming.

Based on other things said, I think Tidwell correctly saw it as a test question, to see if he "is one of us or one of THEM" and he didn't take the bait.

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 Post subject: Re: Chef Alex Jamieson now eats meat
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Vegan Feminist Agitator wrote a parody of this post: http://veganfeministagitator.blogspot.com/2013/03/im-not-not-murdering-anymore.html.

(Sorry if this has already been posted, but I browsed through the thread and didn't see it anywhere.)

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 Post subject: Re: Chef Alex Jamieson now eats meat
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Vegan Feminist Agitator wrote a parody of this post: http://veganfeministagitator.blogspot.com/2013/03/im-not-not-murdering-anymore.html.

(Sorry if this has already been posted, but I browsed through the thread and didn't see it anywhere.)


This was awesome and was the perfect antidote to the feelings of rage acquired by reading Alex's blog post.


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 Post subject: Re: Chef Alex Jamieson now eats meat
PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:04 pm 
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As someone who has taken several animal-centered courses on nutrition, it's always surprising to me that there are so many "experts" spreading very blatant disinformation regarding nutrition science. There are heaps and heaps of books out there giving a basic explanation about metabolism, food digestion/absorption, etc, and even though most of the information has an omniovore's bias, I have never encountered anything that directly invalidated my vegan diet.


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 Post subject: Re: Chef Alex Jamieson now eats meat
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"While I am no longer not murdering, I still passionately believe in one’s right to not murder. I also believe, though, that murder can be done in a way that is personally honest and empowering."

Amazing.

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 Post subject: Re: Chef Alex Jamieson now eats meat
PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:08 pm 
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quark wrote:
Vegan Feminist Agitator wrote a parody of this post: http://veganfeministagitator.blogspot.com/2013/03/im-not-not-murdering-anymore.html.

(Sorry if this has already been posted, but I browsed through the thread and didn't see it anywhere.)

This is just wonderful!

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 Post subject: Re: Chef Alex Jamieson now eats meat
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camuscando wrote:
As someone who has taken several animal-centered courses on nutrition, it's always surprising to me that there are so many "experts" spreading very blatant disinformation regarding nutrition science. There are heaps and heaps of books out there giving a basic explanation about metabolism, food digestion/absorption, etc, and even though most of the information has an omniovore's bias, I have never encountered anything that directly invalidated my vegan diet.


I've had that observation too. Most people would not dream of talking about something they do not know anything about with subjects like physics, automotive mechanics, etc............but with nutrition everyone becomes a medieval philosopher.

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 Post subject: Re: Chef Alex Jamieson now eats meat
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I couldn't help myself. I left a comment.

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 Post subject: Re: Chef Alex Jamieson now eats meat
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I just read ALL the comments. And now I hate everyone and everything.

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Most people would not dream of talking about something they do not know anything about with subjects like physics


Where do you think all the quantum quackery comes from?


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 Post subject: Re: Chef Alex Jamieson now eats meat
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I just read ALL the comments. And now I hate everyone and everything.
Even my suggestion that she enroll in a basic writing workshop? I was just trying to be helpful!

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I just read ALL the comments. And now I hate everyone and everything.
Even my suggestion that she enroll in a basic writing workshop? I was just trying to be helpful!

I just went back and found that...hehe.

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 Post subject: Re: Chef Alex Jamieson now eats meat
PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:50 pm 
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STOP MAKING ME WANT TO READ THE COMMENTS!

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STOP MAKING ME WANT TO READ THE COMMENTS!


If I tell you someone compares her to Lance Armstrong and suggests she should be made to refund the people who paid for her boot camps??

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IsaChandra wrote:
STOP MAKING ME WANT TO READ THE COMMENTS!


I just saw a link to a news story that proves (with science!) that all the comments everywhere suck. Generally I think that science reporting blows and gets things wrong but I can't disagree.


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 Post subject: Re: Chef Alex Jamieson now eats meat
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IsaChandra wrote:
STOP MAKING ME WANT TO READ THE COMMENTS!


If you read them, for your own mental health please be sure to skip over everything that "Paleo Huntress" says...


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 Post subject: Re: Chef Alex Jamieson now eats meat
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Efcliz wrote:
I just read ALL the comments. And now I hate everyone and everything.

Comments on blogs and videos always make me think of this comic (from http://www.xkcd.com/481/):

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