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 Post subject: For your reading enjoyment
PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:43 am 
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http://fightland.vice.com/blog/ottavia- ... goes-vegan

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 Post subject: Re: For your reading enjoyment
PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:09 am 
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Seems to me that she's lamenting the same thing that we do sometimes, restaurants not being able to accommodate vegans.


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 Post subject: Re: For your reading enjoyment
PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:08 am 
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awesome. i hear her on the restaurant thing. until very recently [last 4 or 5 years], i never had a good meal at a veg restaurant. when Tony talks about "everything having that same tamari garlic and ginger taste" all i could think of was that stretch in the nineties when i was veg and everything was from the forking moosewood cookbook and was all margarine-butter-garlic and had the same damn taste. Here in Brazil we are still in that specific dry spell, and a veg restaurant is [assuming you can find one that doesn't drown you in cheese] soooooo depressing and all deprivation/whole grains/low salt/no sugar. I blame the Adventists.

she really does nail it with the ethnic food being much better at veganism than most others- at least, i think it's easier to get decent veg food from a restaurant you've never been to if it's international. if i need to take someone to a place i've never been before, you bet it will be veg pho or veg indian, and not generic veg restaurant.

also, so many toilet jokes. love her.

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 Post subject: Re: For your reading enjoyment
PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:36 am 
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 Post subject: Re: For your reading enjoyment
PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:15 am 
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Yeah, it's discouraging to eat bad food. She just needed to figure out where to find some good and decent meals.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:30 am 
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I had never heard of her before, but I already feel the same way about her I do about her husband.

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I can't stand either of them.

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 Post subject: Re: For your reading enjoyment
PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:49 am 
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do they live in nyc? man, ordinarily i'd be happy about anyone trying to eat veg more often, but having to sit next to them in a restaurant might ruin my meal. i'm not surprised the vegetarians around them looked sad. now i'm gonna be all anxious and paranoid every time i walk past hangawi.

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 Post subject: Re: For your reading enjoyment
PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:19 pm 
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If I were going to go vegan for a week, without a clue about what that entails, I would definitely wait until day 4 before doing any kind of research or preparation whatsoever.

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 Post subject: Re: For your reading enjoyment
PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:22 pm 
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well, yeah. when people ask me for advice about going vegan, i always say, "make sure there's nothing in your kitchen except cauliflower, beans, and soy creamer. it'll really kickstart your creativity and get you thinking about all the things you can make without meat or any food at all."

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 Post subject: Re: For your reading enjoyment
PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:02 pm 
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I thought the part about being suspicious when he went downstairs to get a magazine and sniffing him was weird.

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 Post subject: Re: For your reading enjoyment
PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:12 pm 
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I thought the part about being suspicious when he went downstairs to get a magazine and sniffing him was weird.


That's probably one of those things that makes sense in the context of somebody you're married to but seems weird to anyone else.

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 Post subject: Re: For your reading enjoyment
PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:13 pm 
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I thought the part about being suspicious when he went downstairs to get a magazine and sniffing him was weird.


That's probably one of those things that makes sense in the context of somebody you're married to but seems weird to anyone else.

Probably, it didn't really endear me to her though. That and some of her comments about fake meats.

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 Post subject: Re: For your reading enjoyment
PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:59 pm 
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They both seem so macho and belligerent. Blecch.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:07 pm 
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To me, the seem like they're trying to be macho and belligerent. But instead they come off as overprivileged titty-babies. I mean, is Amfurny's italicized note supposed to be a bad boy rant, or a man child throwing a tantrum because he ate something he didn't like? I honestly can't tell.

The whole thing reads like satire of the foodie set--these people are completely screwed up.

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 Post subject: Re: For your reading enjoyment
PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:50 pm 
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Nothing better than someone deciding they wont like something before they even do it,

She seems like a poncy spoiled kumquat, kinda like her husband

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 Post subject: Re: For your reading enjoyment
PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:58 pm 
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Quarantined wrote:
solipsistnation wrote:
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I thought the part about being suspicious when he went downstairs to get a magazine and sniffing him was weird.


That's probably one of those things that makes sense in the context of somebody you're married to but seems weird to anyone else.

Probably, it didn't really endear me to her though. That and some of her comments about fake meats.


As somebody who has eaten basically any fake meat that's come along, she's right-- some of them are TERRIBLE. Some of the veggie dogs out there are awful and plasticky like she says. It's like the people who made them took a look at cheap hot dogs and aimed straight for that goal, rather than trying to be _good_ hot dogs. Consider that you and I know what's good because we've been eating fake meat for years and have already tried some bad ones and decided not to try them again. But when faced with, say, Tofurky hot dogs and Tofu Pups and those German ones, and the Field Roast ones, and the 3 or 4 kinds Yves and Lightlife make, not to mention anything store brand or regional-- how do you know what's good without a native guide? _I_ know which ones I like (Field Roast!), but I had to eat some damn awful veggie dogs to get there.

Just not eating meat for a week isn't really long enough to get everything right. I know I ate some seriously bad meals back in the day before I figured out how to cook better. I'd think her husband would help out a bit more, though, considering. He's got to know some decent chefs who can tell him good places to go...

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 Post subject: Re: For your reading enjoyment
PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:04 pm 
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Yeah but we can guarantee that this endeavour is not something he would have been even remotely helpful with or supportive of.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:04 pm 
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why would he help her? i can't believe he agreed to be seen in a veg restaurant at all. he seems more likely to steer her toward the yuckiest stuff he can think of so she'll give this nonsense up already and eat something fleshy like any decent human would.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:21 pm 
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But this idea that it's vegans who don't know or appreciate "real" food—it seems so silly.

While many omnis might admire Bourdain's adventurousness (or whatever it is), someone out there is eating a fork-ton of fast food and crappy meat and cheese, and it ain't the vegans.

I'm no foodie, but there's no way vegans have cornered the market on crummy foods.

Also, I don't like Anthony Bourdain.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:33 pm 
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He's not the best.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:33 pm 
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Nothing better than someone deciding they wont like something before they even do it,


It's the only scientific way!

"I meet a food writer who had his own vegan experiment and he suggests a handful of restaurants that he guarantees will not disappoint."

Here I was, set to make some smarmy remark, then realized that there have been too many 'food writers' with their own 'vegan experiment' to narrow it down. I love how this has to be tested by Food Writers- Do Not Attempt Veganism! Allow the Professionals to Handle it!

And seriously, she couldn't GTS? Maybe ask her new best buddies for some restaurant recommendations inbetween spars?

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I am hoping for a kfischer on this thread so she can get some good restaurant recommendations from the ppk! There are so many good vegan places in NYC that are not all sprouts and tamari.

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Yeah, because what she really wants is vegan restaurant recommendations.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:44 pm 
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She's very unpleasant.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:32 am 
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Yeah, because what she really wants is vegan restaurant recommendations.


Ha, of course you are right - if she had the tiniest bit of interest in actually finding delicious vegan food, she would have found it. It's NYC for crying out loud. When I visit NYC I am overwhelmed with the delicious options. i end up like a little vegan pac-man eating my way up and down the streets.

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