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 Post subject: Re: Please join WSJ chat at 3pm EST today!
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:49 pm 
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Dr. Campbell said something about 'B12 deficiency in so-called "viggins", which I don't support'. So he was just as big of a loud, yelling douchebag!


oh, i thought he was saying he doesn't support the idea that vegans are worse off for their b12 levels. But i think you're right that he was saying he doesn't support veganism because after that he said plant based.


You can go back and watch the whole video, the first thing he does when she asks him to speak is say he's not here to talk about veg*nism.

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 Post subject: Re: Please join WSJ chat at 3pm EST today!
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:53 pm 
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oh okay. yeah, i joined just as he was flickering out before he came back again.

I feel like the sure sign that you have weak argument is when you don't spend any time explaining the benefits of paleo and instead just talk about the negative aspects of veganism.

I'm super confused as to why anyone feels the need to debate paleo vs vegan. they have nothing to do with each other. If it weren't for the damn weight loss book industry, no one would ever think about comparing them.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:55 pm 
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Yeah, they gave me their word that this wasn't what it was about. Of course, it was. But I thought that I would get 10 minutes to talk about vegan cooking. I know I'm not a great debater. I feel like I let down the community because I have zero patience for that.

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 Post subject: Re: Please join WSJ chat at 3pm EST today!
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you did fine! If I popped up on a video only to have some guy start screaming at me about grains, I'd probably react, too. He was completely out of line and was borderline making personal attacks. You definitely came out of that sounding like the rational, sane one while he was just in Fox News screaming mode.

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 Post subject: Re: Please join WSJ chat at 3pm EST today!
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:59 pm 
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you didn't let anyone down! i can't imagine that anyone would have wanted you to get in there and try to out-yell some angry dude who was just going to counter everything you said with a claim that your body isn't evolved enough to digest grains. i feel like our community was let down by the format and by their choice to shut things down rather than ask those guys to sit back for a few seconds so you and mollie (was she even there? she was listed on the site, but i don't remember anyone mentioning her) could present some of the positive information you'd actually agreed to talk about.

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 Post subject: Re: Please join WSJ chat at 3pm EST today!
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:00 pm 
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Dr. Doraiswamy, however, was very polite and he seemed to agree a little bit with both of them and leaning towards the vegan side.

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 Post subject: Re: Please join WSJ chat at 3pm EST today!
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I thought what you said about cooking because we HAVE the technology was spot on because duh! that's exactly the point. As soon as we had cooking technology, we started to cook. that's how the world works!

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:02 pm 
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yeah, you didn't let me down. The audio probs made the discussion hard for me to follow but I heard you say straight up that you were there about vegan cooking and what everyone else was doing sounded more debatish and just voices talking over each other which to me doesn't get anywhere really anyhoo.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:02 pm 
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Well that blows! Sorry Isa, you tried, no let down at all. I wish I would have been able to hear what all the yelling was about but all I could get was multiple voices in duplicate talking over each other. I had to cut it off, my co-workers were giving me the evil eye.

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mrsbadmouth wrote:
Dr. Doraiswamy, however, was very polite and he seemed to agree a little bit with both of them and leaning towards the vegan side.

Yah, he was cool!

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 Post subject: Re: Please join WSJ chat at 3pm EST today!
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can someone please autotune some of the highlights into a double rainbow style song? Dr. Paleo would sound so much better as a melody. http://stream.wsj.com/story/experts-hea ... ealth-care

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 Post subject: Re: Please join WSJ chat at 3pm EST today!
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What did I say again?

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 Post subject: Re: Please join WSJ chat at 3pm EST today!
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I just contacted the WSJ here https://customercenter.wsj.com/public/v ... Dblogs-wsj
It was the only contact I could find. Everyone tell them how disappointing this segment was etc.

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 Post subject: Re: Please join WSJ chat at 3pm EST today!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:15 pm 
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mrsbadmouth wrote:
"Go out 100,000 years ago and try to eat a tuber!"

Haha, g1!

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Also at least Kirby and Fizz were playing in the background.

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 Post subject: Re: Please join WSJ chat at 3pm EST today!
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i didn't even catch the part where they introduced you as isa chandler when it was live. sheesh.

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Pfft, my favourite part was seeing your cat's butt.

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Aww, Isa Chandler, you didn't let anyone down! You were very polite considering the vitriolic garbage spewing out of his mouth. I think you looked like the well-reasoned, calm and sane one...he looked purely idiotic. Sometimes it's just not worth getting into it.

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Dr. CrazyPants+Host Who Doesn't Really Understand Veganism+Vegan Chef Who Wanted To Talk About Cooking+ Calm Dude Who Laughs At Crazy Dude+ Guy They Keep Losing On Video= what the fizzle was that???

First of all, this show seemed sloppily put together and then they just kind of threw you in there after pretty much lying to you about the conversation. And then just....wow...that guy! Why didn't they cut him off? He was ready to attack as soon as you came on. Did you see his face? It was beat red. Definitely don't feel bad, that guy tried to bully you and you weren't having it.

eta: Did I just hear Dr. CrazyPants calling him "your Indian physician"????

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caramel cluster.

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I think it was about 15 minutes in when I started watching it - didn't see Isa. But after about 5 minutes of the paleo guy yelling over everyone else with misinformation about B12, I had to turn it off - he was just...ANNOYING. So I wonder what their audience was like - if many viewers stuck with it?

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I didn't know I had to get my B12 tested at a research university. Oh well.


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I went back and watched the whole thing; you did great, Isa. You got it in that they should be talking to a vegan RD, you didn't yell, everything you said made sense, plus had a cute cat! I agree that they were very disorganized and the moderator was totally unprepared.

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It was much less than what I was expecting from something aligning itself with WSJ, of which I am generally a fan. The moderator was out of her league and the producer was clearly looking for some sort of grudge match cage fight. Kudos to Isa for not playing and just getting salient points out there.


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