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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 1:55 pm 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:01 pm 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:04 pm 
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I love this woman for standing up for herself. But I hate the comments on youtube and various places I have seen this calling this woman bisque-y, among other (worse) things.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:13 pm 
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I love this woman for standing up for herself. But I hate the comments on youtube and various places I have seen this calling this woman bisque-y, among other (worse) things.


Huh? People are calling her out?!

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:24 pm 
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paprikapapaya wrote:
I love this woman for standing up for herself. But I hate the comments on youtube and various places I have seen this calling this woman bisque-y, among other (worse) things.


Huh? People are calling her out?!


Yes indeed. I have read people telling her to chill out, to stop being so bisque-y, that it's not a big deal and she's overreacting, and on and on. There's some of it on the Youtube video comments. It's really disgusting.

eta: This story affects me personally and makes me feel ill because I had the exact same thing happen to me at my old place of work by a customer a few years ago. I wish I had the mind to spit in his forking face instead of running away crying. Luckily, he did get caught by the police because a coworker saw it happen. It is so disgusting to me that this is a fairly common occurence, it seems.

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 Post subject: Re: Subway rider nails peener flasher
PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:28 pm 
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That made me feel uncomfortable. She has every right to call him out and be furious. But exhibitionism is a mental disorder, so it makes me feel bad for the guy, because he needs help. But most help is only recieved after they've been arrested and forced to get counseling. So it's the right thing to do to report him.

Overall, just sucks for everyone.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:39 pm 
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That made me feel uncomfortable. She has every right to call him out and be furious. But exhibitionism is a mental disorder, so it makes me feel bad for the guy, because he needs help. But most help is only recieved after they've been arrested and forced to get counseling. So it's the right thing to do to report him.

Overall, just sucks for everyone.


I believe exhibitionism can be a sign of a mental disorder, but some people just get off on exposing themselves, or on the power play of exhibitionism, and that's not a disorder (loads of people find ways to play out their exhibitionist tendencies without harming others). Maybe the penis exposer does have a mental problem of some kind, but honestly, it's not really on the women he's assaulting (and yes, it's assault even if he does have a mental disorder) to treat him kindly in the face of sexual assault on the chance that he might have a mental issue. It's not like she beat the shiitake out of him - she yelled at him and reported him to the police. Given that he'd been rubbing his dick on her, I think that's a pretty appropriate response.

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 Post subject: Re: Subway rider nails peener flasher
PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:42 pm 
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jordanpattern wrote:
graffitipassion wrote:
That made me feel uncomfortable. She has every right to call him out and be furious. But exhibitionism is a mental disorder, so it makes me feel bad for the guy, because he needs help. But most help is only recieved after they've been arrested and forced to get counseling. So it's the right thing to do to report him.

Overall, just sucks for everyone.


I believe exhibitionism can be a sign of a mental disorder, but some people just get off on exposing themselves, or on the power play of exhibitionism, and that's not a disorder (loads of people find ways to play out their exhibitionist tendencies without harming others). Maybe the penis exposer does have a mental problem of some kind, but honestly, it's not really on the women he's assaulting (and yes, it's assault even if he does have a mental disorder) to treat him kindly in the face of sexual assault on the chance that he might have a mental issue. It's not like she beat the shiitake out of him - she yelled at him and reported him to the police. Given that he'd been rubbing his dick on her, I think that's a pretty appropriate response.


Yes, all of this. Thanks JoPa.

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 Post subject: Re: Subway rider nails peener flasher
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jordanpattern wrote:
graffitipassion wrote:
That made me feel uncomfortable. She has every right to call him out and be furious. But exhibitionism is a mental disorder, so it makes me feel bad for the guy, because he needs help. But most help is only recieved after they've been arrested and forced to get counseling. So it's the right thing to do to report him.

Overall, just sucks for everyone.


I believe exhibitionism can be a sign of a mental disorder, but some people just get off on exposing themselves, or on the power play of exhibitionism, and that's not a disorder (loads of people find ways to play out their exhibitionist tendencies without harming others). Maybe the penis exposer does have a mental problem of some kind, but honestly, it's not really on the women he's assaulting (and yes, it's assault even if he does have a mental disorder) to treat him kindly in the face of sexual assault on the chance that he might have a mental issue. It's not like she beat the shiitake out of him - she yelled at him and reported him to the police. Given that he'd been rubbing his dick on her, I think that's a pretty appropriate response.


Yes, she did have an appropriate response. I surely wasn't defending the flasher or saying he wasn't assulting her.

And exhibitionism is technically in the DSM and is a treatable mental disorder. Along with many other sexual paraphilias. Again, doesn't make it right. Just like an addict who breaks into someone's house and steals stuff to buy drugs. It's just good to recognize what is going on.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:27 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Subway rider nails peener flasher
PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:42 pm 
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paprikapapaya wrote:
I love this woman for standing up for herself. But I hate the comments on youtube and various places I have seen this calling this woman bisque-y, among other (worse) things.


Oh Jesus, what the hell is wrong with people? :(


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 Post subject: Re: Subway rider nails peener flasher
PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:20 pm 
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I saw this on Efukt a couple days ago, bravo to her. The other day I was taking the bus and this guy dropped his pants and naturally I turned away ... until I realized he had another pair of pants on, hahaha.

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Good for her! I had a similar experience on the skytrain, but wasn't as vocal about it. I did call him on it though, which others heard.


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Good for her! I'd like to think I'd have the guts to do the same.

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Wow, result! I take triumph and joy in this only with the caveat that so many others who do this kind of crepe get away with it. I hope the frequency of women feeling empowered to stand up for themselves like this (I'm thinking also of the woman who caught out Raw Chef Dan) and getting support from other people is the marker of a larger shift in the way this kind of thing is dealt with.

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This is great!

I bet all the people saying she overreacted hate the Privilege Denying Dude meme. Sometimes it is good to ignore the bottom half of the internet.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:36 pm 
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Good for her. It wasn't Dan was it?

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