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 Post subject: How do you deal with hostility toward vegans?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 7:33 pm 
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I guess I always assumed that I never really cared what people thought about what I eat (except in some social situations, where it can be a bit stressful)... but recently I've realized that a "friend" (I emphasize the quotation marks there) of mine (an acquaintance, really) is extremely hostile toward vegans. She regularly calls vegans "weird", "stupid", and "self-righteous" when really she's the most self-righteous person I know. I don't know why I am letting it bother me, but I am. Thankfully I don't see her often (for this and other reasons), so I should be able to put it out of my mind...

How do you deal with hostility toward vegans or veganism in your life? Or are you lucky enough not to experience any? :)


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A swift punch to the face.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 7:40 pm 
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She knows you're vegan and she's still saying all that crepe to your face? I think I'd have a hard time not responding, "Well, at least I'm not an asparagus."


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 7:50 pm 
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I eliminate those people from my life. I don't need their garbage.

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I get really upset secretly and cry about it, then I go out of my way to avoid those people.

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LOL... love these. I'm trying to decide now between farting in her face and punching her in the face.

Yeah, she's a total asparagus.

I'm feeling better already!


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Id tell her shes being a giant croissant and to let you live your own life without her bullshiitake..if she wants you two to remain friends

Or fart on her face..Im not as violent as Mel

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I'm of the opinion that people who get hostile are probably aware that there is some ethical merit to veganism, and feel inferior because you're actually doing something about it. They feel like you're probably a better person than they are, and worry that others think so too. It's threatening. So I kind of think that the destructive, petty thoughts that drive their behavour is punishment enough for being a dick.

Delusion or not, it makes me feel better.

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Or fart on her face..Im not as violent as Mel


I just keep it real. Real violent.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:13 pm 
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And people say vegans aren't weird.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:18 pm 
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I stare at them until they feel uncomfortable and retract their offensive statement. If they don't retract it I switch from stunned to angry stare and walk off.
I hereby don't get arrested for assault or get really angry in an incoherent shouty way.
I don't attack because it's not in me to act like that and it'd just be embarrassing if I tried.


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 Post subject: Re: How do you deal with hostility toward vegans?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:20 pm 
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Is this a good friend, or just someone you do group stuff with? If you're close you can try talking to them, if it's just someone you see socially, just try to avoid them. I don't have anyone who is really hostile towards me, but I do have several people who flat out don't care if I have something to eat at social functions, so I avoid those functions.

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 Post subject: Re: How do you deal with hostility toward vegans?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:30 pm 
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marmoset wrote:
I've realized that a "friend" (I emphasize the quotation marks there) of mine (an acquaintance, really) is extremely hostile toward vegans. She regularly calls vegans "weird", "stupid", and "self-righteous" when really she's the most self-righteous person I know.

We must have a mutual friend. I know someone like this and I've responded by distancing myself from her. I just can't handle her irrational hatred towards veganism. I've never tried to convert her or questioned her diet at all, there's no reason for her to act like such a jackass over it, but she seems to go out of her way to try make veganism look stupid or loudly proclaim the glory of meat. When I run into her, I'm nice, but I never make plans and just avoid her in general.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:31 pm 
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First off, this person isn't even a "friend".

Second, this person is a douchepocket. If she can't be removed from your life, just ignore her. She's either jealous or just wants attention. Either way, not worth your time.


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 Post subject: Re: How do you deal with hostility toward vegans?
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 Post subject: Re: How do you deal with hostility toward vegans?
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Whenever I meet hostility about veganism, it's usually a casual acquaintance. My friends like (and respect) me enough that I've never heard them mention anything. It's usually the friend of a friend who doesn't know me so well...

Normally I laugh it off and comment about how silly it is to care so much about how someone eats. And then in a joking way I usually follow up with something like: Do you wanna know what I had for breakfast this morning? Or dinner last night? Humor is a good vehicle for truth!
If they don't drop it (or do, but then are bisquey again later), I ask them to elaborate on their point(s). I'm generally a logical sort of girl, so I like to dissect an argument.
My main strategy is to keep the tone light, playful, but firm. I'm not upset with them, so why are they getting their pantaloons in a twist? Why would you hate someone for a so silly a reason when you have people lying, cheating, and truly hurting other people? I'm just eating. Go hate on your ex, Politician X, or Lard Voldemort.

I think that people hate on vegans because they feel like we're condemning them or judging them.


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 Post subject: Re: How do you deal with hostility toward vegans?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:45 pm 
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It sucks when we get crepe from people for our own choices that have nothing to do with them or affect them in any way...I figure people that get mean about it are just trying to intimidate/shut down their own inner conscience and what they probably know in their heart about animal cruelty. So, I usually try to just ignore them or blow it off.

However, if this is a person that you are around a lot or are 'friends' with, I'd probably tell her/him that you have decided not to hang around them anymore because of how they act. Then move on and forget about 'em!

If that fails, I agree with farts or punches to the face :)


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 Post subject: Re: How do you deal with hostility toward vegans?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:07 pm 
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Call her out on it in front of people. A guy in one of my classes was harassing me last year for being vegan, saying that it didn't make a difference and that slaughter wasn't that bad. He said a lot of really terrible and shocking things, but I can't really remember it. I just remember being so mad that I was seriously shaking and I told him that I've never said anything about his diet, so what right did he have to say anything about mine. And, for the first time ever, I totally went on a rant about the horror of factory farming. No one even saw me as a crazy vegan for reacting the way I did, and the class ended up telling him off and saying he went too far. He's never mentioned it since.

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 Post subject: Re: How do you deal with hostility toward vegans?
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What about when they're intelligent enough to be subtle about their hostility? I can deal with outright dickheads easily enough.


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 Post subject: Re: How do you deal with hostility toward vegans?
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melanie wrote:
What about when they're intelligent enough to be subtle about their hostility? I can deal with outright dickheads easily enough.


That's when you hit them.

Seriously though, the intelligent naysayers aren't even worth the wasted breath. Most of them believe they are always right. Case in point: Kid in my psych class telling me that veganism didn't make sense because plants can feel pain due to Glial Cells. He wouldn't let me finish a sentence so that I could tell him the difference between plants responding to certain factors and actually feeling pain, and I'm fairly certain we read the same article. He said he was being "sincere and curious", he just wanted to poke holes in veganism in a socially acceptable way. Now, I'm kind of passive aggressively mean to him but I never really liked him in the first place.

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melanie wrote:
What about when they're intelligent enough to be subtle about their hostility? I can deal with outright dickheads easily enough.


Say, "Just because you're intelligent enought to be subtle aboout your hostility, it doesn't mean I don't recognize it."

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