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 Post subject: Re: How do you deal with hostility toward vegans?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:50 pm 
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The same way I deal with hostility towards poly amory, dope smokers, feminists, socialists, people who care about the homeless, and pretty much all other aspects of my personality and Self.

With rationality and as much kindness as I can muster.

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 Post subject: Re: How do you deal with hostility toward vegans?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:07 pm 
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Fortunately, I haven't really had to deal with many people who have been hostile towards my lifestyle choices. But on the rare occasion I have had to, I've just tried to present my arguments for my decision to be vegan in a logical and sensible manner and hope that they understand where I'm coming from. Obviously, I can't change the way people think about veganism but hopefully I can make them see that by disrespecting my choices, they're not going to make me want to be vegan any less.


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 Post subject: Re: How do you deal with hostility toward vegans?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:36 pm 
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monkeytoes wrote:
melanie wrote:
What about when they're intelligent enough to be subtle about their hostility? I can deal with outright dickheads easily enough.


Say, "Just because you're intelligent enought to be subtle aboout your hostility, it doesn't mean I don't recognize it."

Love this.

I'm always quite amazed by the number of people who have to deal with these crassholes. Either I'm really lucky, or people know well enough to not fork with me that I don't get shiitake about my diet.

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 Post subject: Re: How do you deal with hostility toward vegans?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:48 pm 
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monkeytoes wrote:
melanie wrote:
What about when they're intelligent enough to be subtle about their hostility? I can deal with outright dickheads easily enough.


Say, "Just because you're intelligent enought to be subtle aboout your hostility, it doesn't mean I don't recognize it."

Seriously awesome. Call them out. So many people are accustomed to having their passive-aggressive behavior and subtle jabs being overlooked, let them feel a lil burn.

And when all else fails, I'm for the farts.


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 Post subject: Re: How do you deal with hostility toward vegans?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:48 pm 
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That's very funny!... love these. I'm trying to decide now between farting in her face and punching her in the face.

Yeah, she's a total asparagus.

I'm feeling better already!


Well, if anyone else asks, you can blame the farts on her. No way of proving ownership....

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 Post subject: Re: How do you deal with hostility toward vegans?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 12:01 am 
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She's more of an acquaintance, so I think I'm going to go with avoidance. It's not the only thing she's done/said that's inappropriate, which makes it easier. She's one of these people you feel like you're supposed to like, because they're "green" or "progressive" or "fun" or whatever, but in reality I just don't like her at all. I don't like how she talks about people or to people, especially.

Avoidance it is. :)


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 Post subject: Re: How do you deal with hostility toward vegans?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 2:05 am 
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I just bring up the health aspects of it. It is hard to poke holes in that argument and is much less of an emotional issue for me. I usually end my health spiel about veganism with, "I would still do it even if it weren't such a great benefit to my health." Honestly, I am usually quite close to the people the criticize my diet so I immediately know way too much about their health (ie, family members) and they really can't say shiitake to me about that. I am not just talking about being thin, no, never. But my appearance, I am sure, leads many to several assumptions about the whys and hows of my veganism.

all in all, though, I live in the northwest and most people have dabbled in the dark vegan arts around here and can handle waiting 5 minutes for me to leave the room before they bash the vegetable eaters.

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 Post subject: Re: How do you deal with hostility toward vegans?
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when I'm really in the zone and not crippled by shyness, I try to emphasize that it works for me and makes me happy. If they're obviously being defensive (does it ever NOT come from a place of defensiveness?) I make it about me and my lived experience, not them.

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 Post subject: Re: How do you deal with hostility toward vegans?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:07 am 
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paprikapapaya wrote:
I get really upset secretly and cry about it, then I go out of my way to avoid those people.

Pretty much this. Luckily (?) most of the crepe I deal with is on Facebook so I don't have to deal with real life confrontations. The two people I'm thinking of right now are a friend's boyfriend and a friend's husband, and they're not worth arguing with because (a) I don't know them very well, and (b) I don't want to make things any more awkward for my friends than they have to be (though I hope they're standing up for me and I just haven't seen it).

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