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 Post subject: Re: deactivated facebook
PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:44 am 
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I love Facebook. It's great for me because I've travelled a fair bit and have friends and family all over the world. I'm never going to have the time to email them all individually, so it's an easy way to keep in touch. I also like it because all my friends in bands have become super lazy and now only advertise their shows as events on Facebook. A couple of my friends deleted their Facebook accounts and we didn't see them for months, just because they didn't know when anything was on.

And I don't get the people that carry on about privacy concerns and Facebook owning everything you post. Yeah, it's the internet. This isn't new. And it's not hard to up your privacy settings, it takes like two clicks of a button. But I guess it's easier to listen to the frightened, flailing conservative on the news than to actually read the instructions on your Facebook account. But I do kind of want to know what precious intellectual property these people are posting in their status updates that gets them so worked up over the thought of someone else accessing it. My statuses are usually just about food or puppies.

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 Post subject: Re: deactivated facebook
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I love facebook and you can pry it from my cold dead hands. It's just another way to keep in touch with people. And to facebook stalk cute people you are crushing on, of course.


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 Post subject: Re: deactivated facebook
PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:06 am 
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I spend maybe 30 minutes per week on fb, mostly reading the status updates of my friends and sometimes liking them. I enjoy seeing what everyone's up to and what kind of forgotten pics my friends come up with and tag.

I don't get the hate: if one doesn' like it, or doesn't like the friends one has or the statuses they post, delete delete delete. If one wastes too much time on the silly games, well there's only one person responsible for it.

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 Post subject: Re: deactivated facebook
PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:26 am 
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I spend too much time sitting and staring at my news feed.

I deactivated it a couple weeks ago. My thought process was that I'd just do it for a week to get some shiitake done, since it takes up so much time. I got a lot of shiitake done for like 3-4 hours, then realized I needed an address in my FB inbox for wedding invitations. I thought I'd enable it, then just disable it again. I got the address out and ended up just removing the shortcut link from my browser. Yyyyyeah, that didn't last long.

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 Post subject: Re: deactivated facebook
PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:31 am 
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I have an account but do not really use it and never even think about it. Many of my friends have accounts as do many family members so I do occasionally check on what is going on with them but, honestly, most of those that I care about I speak to on the phone often so I already know what is going on with them. I would say perhaps it is my age that makes me not care much but many people my age seem obsessed with it so I guess it isn't that.

None of my kids have Facebook accounts (they are 18, 16, 14 and 10) but that is because my oldest had some really nasty girfriend issues last year and we have also had a lot of bullying in our district through Facebook so we have just made the decision to keep them account free for now. None of them have died from deprivation.


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 Post subject: Re: deactivated facebook
PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:44 am 
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And I don't get the people that carry on about privacy concerns and Facebook owning everything you post. Yeah, it's the internet. This isn't new. And it's not hard to up your privacy settings, it takes like two clicks of a button. But I guess it's easier to listen to the frightened, flailing conservative on the news than to actually read the instructions on your Facebook account. But I do kind of want to know what precious intellectual property these people are posting in their status updates that gets them so worked up over the thought of someone else accessing it. My statuses are usually just about food or puppies.

This. All of this.

I don't add people I don't really know (save a few PPKers!), and I don't add people I don't really like. If I find the things someone says offensive or annoying, I don't argue, I don't block them, I just delete them. I block all applications so I don't get a million notifications about farmville and whatever the fork else people do on there all day. I don't really understand people who complain about it being a timesuck - you get to control how you use it. If you really don't have the self control to not spend countless hours on there, then by all means I think it's best to deactivate. But please, don't blame it on facebook, because there are lots of us who are able to use it without sacrificing any other areas of our lives.

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 Post subject: Re: deactivated facebook
PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:48 am 
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I look at facebook for maybe tops 30 minutes/week. I'll go days without looking at it.

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 Post subject: Re: deactivated facebook
PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:49 am 
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Eh. I like FB. I keep in touch with people I wouldn't otherwise. I don't spend that much time on it. There's not anything to do there for me but read updates and post myself.


same. i like it because my far away friends and i can see pics and chat and stuff.

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 Post subject: Re: deactivated facebook
PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:22 am 
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I love it! I am friends with relatives and friends that I never get to see in real life, anymore. I abhor phone conversations and get sick of sending updates and pics of my family to people individually. I just direct people to my facebook account and they can pretty much see what is going on in my life and enjoy pics of my kids. Other than that, I am a boring loser, so my account it probably pretty boring for others. It has been nice to get questions from various facebook friends for Veg recipe and cook book recommendations, too! I always enjoy my PPK friends on there. They keep me entertained, informed and remind me that not everyone is an asshat!

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 Post subject: Re: deactivated facebook
PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:30 am 
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Yeah, I HATE the phone, always have. Plus its nice to see pics of my family that lives 3k miles away.

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 Post subject: Re: deactivated facebook
PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:35 am 
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I'm at odds with Facebook.

I like it for keeping in touch with old friends I wouldn't otherwise speak with, and it keeps me in the loop re: social events and punk shows in my city. And it helped me find a Winnipeg Vegan Meet-up!

On the flip-side, I dislike my FB "dependence." (Deleting all my games and apps has me down to 5 minutes a day on FB.) And I worry it's only a matter of time before Facebook becomes self-aware and nukes the world.

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 Post subject: Re: deactivated facebook
PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:46 am 
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I spend too much time sitting and staring at my news feed.

I deactivated it a couple weeks ago. My thought process was that I'd just do it for a week to get some shiitake done, since it takes up so much time. I got a lot of shiitake done for like 3-4 hours, then realized I needed an address in my FB inbox for wedding invitations. I thought I'd enable it, then just disable it again. I got the address out and ended up just removing the shortcut link from my browser. Yyyyyeah, that didn't last long.

Goddamnit.


Ditto!

I've tried to quite several times because I feel it's a huge timesuck (as in, I say I'll just go and check my newsfeed and lo and behold, it'll be an hour later and I'm still just forking around on Facebook) and I also don't exactly feel like I need to know what everyone is up to all the time.

That being said, I'm addicted and I can't quit. Boo.

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 Post subject: Re: deactivated facebook
PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:50 am 
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See I find myself looking at pictures of people I went to high school's babies etc, and all this stuff I'm just indifferent to. I think I may have just too many friends, but I don't think I could defriend everyone. I was massively hiding people, but then there was just still too much unimportant "news" I kept looking at. I never did any games but scrabble.


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 Post subject: Re: deactivated facebook
PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:59 am 
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I get the "I hate facebook" blues and found the culprit was all those people who I friended who were not friends. My list is down to about 60, and includes only people I have face-to-face contact with regularly (or far-away good friends). I'm even iffy about adding coworkers unless they are super cool. I use facebook to contact my family who I don't see as often as I'd like, get updates on their lives and give them updates on mine. It's useful, without all the bullshiitake people that I don't care for!

*The number 60 is so high because I shamefully have about 15 friends I added specifically for a game (but they are on my "game" limited list, and cannot see anything on my profile, I blocked them out of everything and hide their statuses)


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 Post subject: Re: deactivated facebook
PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:11 am 
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I deactivated mine because I still found it incredibly distracting even though I was mostly bored with it. It's been about a month I think?

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 Post subject: Re: deactivated facebook
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I get on 1-2 times a day for about 5 minutes each time. Just to see any notifications and new feeds from my friends. Facebook has helped me keep in touch with people because for some reason, I hate talking on the phone with them, but I love sending them little messages or commenting on things they wrote. It helps me be more social than if I only had a phone.

I empathize with people who can't use it without feeling sucked in though. The internet is something you can become addicted to. The way I see it, some people are more inclined to abuse alcohol, or cigarettes, or sex than others. The same with the internet, some people are inclined to abuse it because they get something out of it and others are not. So I applaud you guys for cutting yourselves off when you feel it's getting out of hand.


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 Post subject: Re: deactivated facebook
PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:58 am 
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I deactivated my account a few months ago and i'm much happier without it. My reasons all had to do with local peeps. I got tired of posting asking if people wanted to do something, only to be ignored. I also got tired of getting group messages because you can't opt out of those, even if you don't want to participate in whatever the message is about. I've thought about reactivating it for keeping up with my ppk friends and for fan pages so I know when bands are going on tour and what not, but if I remove all of my local friends I will probably never hear the end of it.

It has also taught me who is too lazy to interact with me if I don't have a facebook account, so that's a plus!

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 Post subject: Re: deactivated facebook
PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:18 pm 
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I've never joined up on facebook,although I occasionally get nagged about it by friends and relatives. I just don't want to spend any more time at a keyboard than I already do. Also, I never grew up with facebook as part of my social life and it seems integral to the social life of young'uns these days. I do miss information on vegan related events in Toronto being facebookless but I'm mostly a recluse so that's not a huge blow or anything, I just go to the website of whatever if I really want to know. I remember when facebook started coming to the fore a few years ago, I just thought it would die out one day like myspace has. So far, it hasn't. Will it ever? Will something with more features or appeal to offer replace it one day? I feel like social networking is constantly upgrading itself in the way of old style tube TVs moved to plasma and LEDs (? whateves they're called--I still have a monolithic picture tube TV which reflects how "progressive" I am in these respects) and whatnot and I'm just not of a mind to keep up. I'm not against it or anything though, just can't be bothered.

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 Post subject: Re: deactivated facebook
PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:40 pm 
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I like Facebook a lot! Besides all the obvious stuff (talk to friends, see photos, etc.) it's a nice tool to share news that I care about (often without actually going to the website, since news articles often have a "like" or "recommend" button). I share recipes, recommend books, and post answers to questions I get about being vegan. Sometimes people post dumb or mean things in response, but if it bothers me enough I'll unfriend them. Other times I've had very civil conversations that led to real life changes - one of my friends is reading Eating Animals now. It's not that I can't have these conversations in person, but it's a lot easier to point people to links online, and doesn't require that I have a conversation with a specific person (and put them on the spot).

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 Post subject: Re: deactivated facebook
PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:55 pm 
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i love it! mostly i use it for sending funny things to friends, and they do the same. it's always good for a laugh. i like being able to share pictures too. if i get messages i don't care for, from events, i just delete them without opening. i've ended up at a lot of events that i wouldn't have known about otherwise.
sometimes i get sucked into looking at pictures and things i don't really care about, but i'm so good at wasting time i'd be doing it somewhere else if not facebook.


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 Post subject: Re: deactivated facebook
PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:26 pm 
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I really wish people were less rah-rah because it kind of rubs it in the face of people who would like to use it, but for whom it isn't such a good thing to have.

I find this statement a bit problematic because I don't understand how liking something has any effect on the people who don't like it. Maybe I misinterpreted what you were saying, though? If so, my apologies.

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 Post subject: Re: deactivated facebook
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Erinnerung wrote:
And I don't get the people that carry on about privacy concerns and Facebook owning everything you post. Yeah, it's the internet. This isn't new. And it's not hard to up your privacy settings, it takes like two clicks of a button. But I guess it's easier to listen to the frightened, flailing conservative on the news than to actually read the instructions on your Facebook account. But I do kind of want to know what precious intellectual property these people are posting in their status updates that gets them so worked up over the thought of someone else accessing it. My statuses are usually just about food or puppies.


I find the assertion that concerns about privacy are a conservative bugaboo, strange. The right to privacy is the reason women in the United States have abortion rights. I'm not saying that facebook removes choice. I am concerned about the slow erosion of privacy rights. When it happens in degrees, it is easier to accept as normal.

Also, since when are hard-core liberals friends to corporate interests (facebook) and their monetization of every and anything (including your online profile)?

Additionally - stranger danger on facebook = creepy. Zuckerberg owning your identity on the internet? Super forking creepy bordering on dystopian.

Here is a critical analysis of Zuckerberg's attitude toward personal identity and autonomy and its basis with majoritarian privilege. http://zunguzungu.wordpress.com/2010/05 ... -facebook/

Perspectives about internet marketing and personal identity that further resonated with me were found in the book data smog:
http://www.amazon.com/Data-Smog-Survivi ... 315&sr=8-1

For an additional critical perspective of facebook and web 2.0
http://www.amazon.com/You-Are-Not-Gadge ... 411&sr=1-1


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:34 pm 
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I heart facebook. I might spend a wee bit too much time on it, but I don't think it's really a problem; mostly I just have it open in a tab in the background. A couple months ago my best friend from elementary school, who I hadn't seen since I moved in 4th grade, found me on there and I thought it was great--turns out we're still kind of similar people. Once in a while an old friend or acquaintance posts something that makes me stabby and I hide or defriend, depending on the situation, but whatever.
Also: I would say at least a third of my friends are PPKers, which might account for the general awesome of my news feed.

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 Post subject: Re: deactivated facebook
PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:38 pm 
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I think it is strange for someone that is posting on an internet message board to be concerned about privacy of facebook. Even without giving out info, the system will know your IP address and email address.

I know enough that if you want to be private, it is best to stay off the internet.

And it also doesn't surprise me that Facebook would try to make money. They are providing a service. If you don't want to use their service, then you don't have to. As the old saying goes, nothing is free.

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Sure, Facebook is owned by crazy, rich crassholes, but what company isn't?

I believe people have a right to know what Facebook is doing with their information, and they've certainly been less than clear about a lot of that, but it's still a person's individual decision to share or not share certain information on the internet. No one's requiring members to enter a SSN or bank account or phone number to have an account. You can even make up a name, create a junk email address, post your mortal enemy's address instead of your own. You can set your profile picture to be a dancing monkey wearing a festive hat. Facebook only has access to the information you give it. I'm not mislead to believe that dancing around naked in the town square should be as private as dancing around naked in my bedroom. I don't see why social media is any different.


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