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 Post subject: The best chinese and philly cheesesteak
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 8:41 am 
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I won't leave Philly without experiencing a cheesesteak so where am I likely to find the best one? I see they have them at Blackbird's and we'll probably go there during our trip anyway. But is there a brilliant one I need to get?

Plus, our hotel seems to be quite near to a chunk of chinese vegetarian places. Do any of them stand out?

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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 9:12 am 
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New Harmony vegetarian is the ONLY vegan chinese place worth going to, in my opinion. They have by far the best chinese food in the city and the nicest real vegan owners too. They also have a nice all you can eat $12 sunday dinner buffet.

As far as cheesesteaks go, blackbirds is okay - I think they have a high bread to seitan ratio. Govindas chicken cheesesteak is definitely worth getting, Thursday is a good day to go here because VeganTreats (our semi local vegan bakery) delivers this day. That actually applies to everywhere in the city, Thursday means fresh vegan pastries. There are also a number of gastropubs scattered around with cheesesteaks but its hard to find one that has vegan cheese. Off the top of my head, Monk's, the POPE, the Abbaye, and I think the Belgian Cafe have these sandwiches too.


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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 9:14 am 
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Teri's has a pretty good vegan cheesesteak. I like Blackbird's a lot, too. I haven't had Govinda's chicken cheesesteak in a while but it's worth getting, for sure


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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 7:48 pm 
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Definitely Govinda's for chicken cheesesteak and Vegan Treats choc pb bomb, cinnamon buns, donuts, &c. When are you coming again? When can we meet!

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New Harmony vegetarian is the ONLY vegan chinese place worth going to, in my opinion. They have by far the best chinese food in the city and the nicest real vegan owners too. They also have a nice all you can eat $12 sunday dinner buffet.

As far as cheesesteaks go, blackbirds is okay - I think they have a high bread to seitan ratio. Govindas chicken cheesesteak is definitely worth getting, Thursday is a good day to go here because VeganTreats (our semi local vegan bakery) delivers this day. That actually applies to everywhere in the city, Thursday means fresh vegan pastries. There are also a number of gastropubs scattered around with cheesesteaks but its hard to find one that has vegan cheese. Off the top of my head, Monk's, the POPE, the Abbaye, and I think the Belgian Cafe have these sandwiches too.

All of this! New Harmony is great and the owner is lovely. And make sure you get the chicken cheesesteak at Govinda's, not the regular peppersteak- the latter has gross gelatinous things in it and I've heard (??) it's not even vegan.


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RandiJM wrote:
Definitely Govinda's for chicken cheesesteak and Vegan Treats choc pb bomb, cinnamon buns, donuts, &c. When are you coming again? When can we meet!


I hate to break this to people, but I don't like sweets.

We'll be there 22nd - 25th June!

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never been a huge fan of most of the cheesesteaks. and im a little scared of govindas but i need to give them another chance.

if you like beer as well there are plenty of gastropubs with good beer and an excellent vegan option or two. but they are spread around the city a bit.

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The chicken cheesesteak at Govindas is devine! Just make sure you tell them you want vegan cheese and mayo. It is creamy and yummy with green peppers and onions.

Their chimichanga or burrito (can't remember what its called) is excellent as well. HUGE, and has a great flavor. You can get the vegan chicken added to it if you want.

You don't like sweets!! No words......

Not sure if you'll have time or feel like venturing out of the city. But, I highly suggest a trip to New Hope and eating at Spring & Vine.

http://www.sprigandvine.com/

http://www.newhopepa.com/


Ooooh, and I know you have a ton of mega old churches in England. But you should stop at Christ's church if you are going to be in and around Old City. It is so special and full of Philadelphia History. Its free (they ask for donations) and there is someone to give you a tour and tell you all about it.

http://www.christchurchphila.org/

I kind of want to take off of work the week your going to be here to show you around! So exciting!

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All of this!
This.

Frankly, I'm sick of telling tourists what to order while in line at Govindas. Actually, I'm never really sick of bossing people around. But there's not really an option: Govindas Chicken Cheesesteak, but DO explicitly ask it to be vegan or you get cheese and mayo and guilt.


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Teri's has a pretty good vegan cheesesteak.

I think Teri's is a bit underrated. When they have the vegan tuna salad it's like winning a mini lottery, and vegan cowgirl tots? Delish. And yeah, I also like their v-steak.


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I really want to stress that Govinda's chicken cheesesteak is nothing like a traditional Philly Cheesesteak! And honestly there isn't a vegan cheesesteak in Philly that comes close to being like the original. I'm not saying you should get a real one, but in my opinion there really isn't a point in sourcing out a vegan version cause they will all miss the mark.

Blackbirds was ok, but no where near being close to a real Philly cheesesteak.

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GraciaKai wrote:
And honestly there isn't a vegan cheesesteak in Philly that comes close to being like the original. I'm not saying you should get a real one, but in my opinion there really isn't a point in sourcing out a vegan version cause they will all miss the mark.

Agreed on all counts.

The biggest difference, I imagine, is that after a Govinda's or Blackbird sandwich, you don't feel like you rubbed the sandwich all over your face. (hat-tip to Jim Gaffigan.) If any of them (at least among the ones I like) come close to duplicating the wonderful greasiness of a cheesesteak it's Teri's.


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GraciaKai wrote:
And honestly there isn't a vegan cheesesteak in Philly that comes close to being like the original. I'm not saying you should get a real one, but in my opinion there really isn't a point in sourcing out a vegan version cause they will all miss the mark.

Agreed on all counts.

The biggest difference, I imagine, is that after a Govinda's or Blackbird sandwich, you don't feel like you rubbed the sandwich all over your face. (hat-tip to Jim Gaffigan.) If any of them (at least among the ones I like) come close to duplicating the wonderful greasiness of a cheesesteak it's Teri's.

I've never had Teri's, but I'd willing to try it.

So um, since we are on the topic. Why are their no vegan whiz wit's? I mean if your gonna try and veganize something that classic at least try and do it proper!

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GraciaKai wrote:
So um, since we are on the topic. Why are their no vegan whiz wit's? I mean if your gonna try and veganize something that classic at least try and do it proper!
I imagine the harder part is the whiz, right? I mean, the meatstuff is just a matter of preparing correctly some kind of strip-steak style gluten, and the "wit" part is just a matter of saying the word correctly. The goo that the whiz contributes might be hard to approximate. But I'm not the foodcooking type, so what do I know.


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I want a Whiz Wit damnit!

Or

A cheese steak sub. Lettuce (shredded), tomato, and mayo.

Or

Fried onions, mushrooms, and mayo.

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I hate to break this to people, but I don't like sweets.

Oh...my. Well. I don't know how to talk to you.
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[after a Govinda's or Blackbird sandwich, you don't feel like you rubbed the sandwich all over your face. (hat-tip to Jim Gaffigan.)


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homeslice does a vegan "whiz"

but ill say ive had their "chicken" cheesesteak and it wasnt great.

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Quoting the incredible Jim Gaffigan is a surefire way to get into my pants to be my friend.
So if I told you I can recite "Beyond the Pale" from memory, that would be assault a friendly gesture? That's good to know.


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Bumping this because I just moved and am in search of a replacement for my usual veg-friendly Chinese place in Sweden (we went there pretty much every week). I tried the Kungpao chicken at New Harmony today, and was honestly pretty disappointed, since it didn't seem to have any szechuan pepper or chillies in it. I later read that there used to be a ban on importing szechuan pepper in the US, so maybe I was expecting something different. Should I give them another chance, pick a different dish and ask for it to be made more spicy? Where do I get my szechuan pepper fix?


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Bumping this because I just moved and am in search of a replacement for my usual veg-friendly Chinese place in Sweden (we went there pretty much every week). I tried the Kungpao chicken at New Harmony today, and was honestly pretty disappointed, since it didn't seem to have any szechuan pepper or chillies in it. I later read that there used to be a ban on importing szechuan pepper in the US, so maybe I was expecting something different. Should I give them another chance, pick a different dish and ask for it to be made more spicy? Where do I get my szechuan pepper fix?


I think you picked a bad dish at New Harmony, which is hard to do. I'm not a huge fan of "kungpao" dishes so this might be my bias. I would definitely give them another try and try a different dish. Asking them to make your dishes more spicy won't hurt either, the owners are really nice and accommodating. (My favorite dishes are the almond chickn, steamed pork bun, walnut shrimp, the sweet & sour dishes, mongolian pork, orange/lemon/sesame beef, the fried chickn dishes (if it's steamed, it's just this weird gluten thing that doesn't taste like anything), string beans szechuan style (they used to add these salty pickled chili peppers to this dish but people were complaining about it being too salty and they stopped adding it. IT WAS THE BEST PART!))

If you want REAL szechuan food, RUN to Han Dynasty (I prefer the Old City location, but there are a few locations in the city and in the suburbs). They have quite a number of tofu entrees you can get vegan, as well as the dan dan noodles (sans pork). If you want szechuan spicy, this is the place to go. I also really like Pad Chilli on 2nd and South, they have a Han Dynasty knock-off menu that is pretty legit. I get this amazing dish with stir-fried spiced tofu, onions, broccoli, potatoes and szechuan dry peppers -- one of my favorite Asian dishes in the city, by far.


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i honestly hadn't had many dishes at new harmony. (we try to order new things to get more familiar with the menu, but then i always blurt out that i want the jumbo walnut shrimp and a beef bun.)

p.s. welcome to philly!!!

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