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The Girls by Lori Lansens ... bought at an airport bookshop years ago & just found when shifting suitcases.

ooh that sounds like an intriguing title! i'm gonna have to find that at the library!

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I got fed up by Elizabeth George and left one book in the middle, now I have started "The Luminaries" by Eleanor Catton and it's really good! I love the way she writes. It is rather a brick to carry around... but that just means it will last longer!

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Just finishing Walking the Big Wild about a biologist who hiked from Yellowstone to the Yukon to raise awareness of the need for wildlife corridors. It was really interesting and is keeping me on my kick of wilderness narratives.

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Reading "The Ten-Year Nap" by Meg Wolitzer. Its good, a bit what I deem "heavy" so I am simultaneously reading a Debbie Macomber Christmas novel, "The Perfect Christmas" which is an easy, enjoyable read. There are going to be recipes at the end! Bonus!

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I'm reading some L. Ron Hubbard pulp fiction. I love old noir pulp and noir cinema, so am enjoying so far. He was good at what he did, which probably explains a lot about COS.

If I start to natter on about thetans and clearing my engrams, somebody send help.

I read a Debbie Macomber years ago when somebody gave it to me. I remember enjoying it but never tried another. I think the schmaltzy covers turned me off; they remind me of Kinkade paintings.

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Wanted to add to my post that I'm not reading the Hubbard pulp entirely for my own amusement (especially since the purchase cost probably goes to some COS arm). Ever since the crassholes camped out at Virginia Tech, littering campus with their propaganda, I've been finding out more and more about Scientology because I think that they are a horrible, insidious, dangerous cult, and nothing I've come across in my researches since then has changed my mind.

I really want to know what made LRH tick. I'm not convinced that he believed his own bullshiitake. By most accounts, he was not a nice man. He was a liar and a conman and a supposedly brilliant, charismatic story teller. So did he actually buy what he was selling or was it all a long con?

I compare this to the Warhol effect. I always wonder if Warhol was evil, or simply someone who had the uncanny ability to sit in the eye of continual drama storms. I don't see evil in his art, but there is a lot of manipulation and an almost insistent plea to the viewer to not look below the surface. I don't know. Maybe if I ever actually get myself to the Pittsburgh museum to see more than one or two pieces at once Ill have better insight.

But Warhol fascinates me; Hubbard repels me.

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I have read a couple of Debbie Macomber books before, I do like her. This one, I actually laughed out loud in two or three spots, I didn't expect to but the emotions are all over the map to get through this book, in a good way. Also, its cover is not bad, its a dining table ser for the holidays, there is a candle, though! Lol its funny you say that about the book covers....they show on the inside jacket of this one, a small picture of another of her books, 1225 Christmas tree lane, and there are three puppies! In a basket! I am thinking of getting another of her Christmas ones, for next year, that's ki d of what she is known for, and I saw the puppies and had to stop myself from making a rash decision about wanting that one , "because, puppies!

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See, sappy covers turn me off in a big way. I don't like sappy stuff. I don't want small children or baskets of puppies in my romance novels. I enjoy well drawn animal characters, but not when they are dropped in for the manipulative "awwwwws."

I don't read holiday romances either because they usually have a high sap quotient. One year when I was flying to A'dam, I had a pile of Christmas regency romances to read on the plane, and all of them had these elaborate, sad stories, like an entire family dying from bad fish. I ended up reading them all because plane, but blech. I just felt sad and exhausted at the end.

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I just finished Jeannette Wall's The Silver Star. I thought it was solid, but not amazing. A quick, entertaining read that makes you think a bit, but it wasn't quite as developed as it might have been.

Now I'm kind of reading Life After Life, but I'm having trouble getting into it because I got the ebook instead of a real book. I might head to the library this coming week to check out something.

I read The Magicians and The Magician King really quickly, and I liked them even though I found some elements really problematic. There was a huge theme of women either being saints or prostitutes, basically. I also found it a bit vulgar. I mean, you're not Harry Potter, I get it. Anyone else read them? Or have other 'magical' reading suggestions? I'm thinking I'll check for Neil Gaiman if I do make it to the library.

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I was shocked to discover that Neil Gaiman was a Scientologist and is from a Scientologist family.

It's amazing how many intelligent people have been or are sucked into that cult. And I'm astounded only Germany seems willing to call it what it is. I don't care about Xenu or Thetans or whatever, and people should believe anything they choose, but when a "religion" actively and systematically (and proven) promotes separation and isolation of its congregants from family and friends, it's a cult.

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Nd: Deborah Harkness? I've not read her yet, but I've heard many great things about Discovery of Witches, etc.

I loved Ann Rice's Witches of Mayfair series once upon a time. As much as I love vampires! I actually always preferred those to her Lestat books.

The first books in the Anita Blake series by Laurell K. Hamilton are great. Zombies, vampires, random creepies. After Obsidian Butterfly she stopped writing plot and just went to straight porn. Until then, the series was one of best urban fantasy.

Jim Butcher's Dresden series are fun and sort of grown up Harry Potteresque.

More urban fantasy I've discovered lately: Unholy Ghosts by Stacia Kane. Those are more paranormal/urban fantasy romance, but not at all formulaic. Her heroine is pretty interesting and a drug addict, which is not the norm in a romance series. She is a good writer with excellent world building skills. I'm not even sure how to describe her books.

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Neil Gaiman a scientologist? That makes me feel funny.

I will check out A Discovery of Witches, it sounds up my alley.

Has anyone read Mr. Penumbra's 24-Hour Bookstore? It keeps coming up on recommendations for me. I don't know what's stopping me from picking it up.

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Neil Gaiman isn't in the COS any longer, but he grew up in it. Here is a link I read recently. This guy is reliable--he used to be the editor of the Village Voice. A large chunk of the reputable COS reporting is his work.

http://tonyortega.org/2013/06/21/in-his ... logy-past/

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The Island of Dr Moreau - That shiitake was forked up. And I wish people these days could feel about vivisection the way people back then did. This was the second Wells book that I read that mentioned people being horrified by the idea that someone was a vivisector.

I might spend all day today reading since I'm so far behind for that Coursera course. I need to get through A Princess of Mars and Herland just to catch up to last week.

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Neil Gaiman isn't in the COS any longer, but he grew up in it. Here is a link I read recently. This guy is reliable--he used to be the editor of the Village Voice. A large chunk of the reputable COS reporting is his work.

http://tonyortega.org/2013/06/21/in-his ... logy-past/


Thanks for posting this, LW. It's a really interesting article. When a church asks people to isolate themselves it makes me feel incredibly anxious and uncomfortable, so COS gives me random worry.

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I was shocked to discover that Neil Gaiman was a Scientologist and is from a Scientologist family.

It's amazing how many intelligent people have been or are sucked into that cult. And I'm astounded only Germany seems willing to call it what it is. I don't care about Xenu or Thetans or whatever, and people should believe anything they choose, but when a "religion" actively and systematically (and proven) promotes separation and isolation of its congregants from family and friends, it's a cult.


Have you read Going Clear by Lawrence Wright? He's an investigative journalist, and it's a really excellent book on COS and it's history. Chilling, but good!


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Not yet, but it's in my Audible queue. I finished Janet Reitman's Inside Scientology and am almost finished with Jenna Miscavige Hill's book about her "childhood" in the Sea Org. I'd recommend both. Jenna's book, especially, is very distressing. It's very difficult to understand why freedom of religion is powerful enough for these abuses to hide behind.

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I'm finally reading the Harry Potter books. I have no idea what took me so long. I've seen them movies countless times, have had the books for years, just never read them for some reason. I'm on book 3 right now - "Prisoner of Azkaban". I'm also mixing in with that "Rebecca" by du Maurier.


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Catching up with this thread, and lavawitch, do you have one particular book out of all of those you have read in your research that you'd recommend about Scientology or RLH? I'm morbidly curious and its been awhile since I've read some good non-fiction. Scientology is something I know nothing about: some about Tom Cruise and aliens is pretty much the extent...

I finished re-reading The Shining and am currently reading Doctor Sleep. I forgot how much I liked The Shining. Even though its older and its a book, it still creeps me out way more than a lot of these horror/psychological thriller movies that are out today. Doctor Sleep is way different than I thought it'd be but I'm liking it.

I'm also reading Dickens' Christmas Carol, just because I never have before. In fact, I haven't read any Dickens since high school.

I started reading Vonnegut's Catch-22 because its a classic and it was free and because I've never read it, but I just can't get into it. Anyone have a compelling case for me to dredge forward?


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To Laugh or To Cry: The Comedy Issue ...

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Catching up with this thread, and lavawitch, do you have one particular book out of all of those you have read in your research that you'd recommend about Scientology or RLH? I'm morbidly curious and its been awhile since I've read some good non-fiction. Scientology is something I know nothing about: some about Tom Cruise and aliens is pretty much the extent...

I finished re-reading The Shining and am currently reading Doctor Sleep. I forgot how much I liked The Shining. Even though its older and its a book, it still creeps me out way more than a lot of these horror/psychological thriller movies that are out today. Doctor Sleep is way different than I thought it'd be but I'm liking it.

I'm also reading Dickens' Christmas Carol, just because I never have before. In fact, I haven't read any Dickens since high school.

I started reading Vonnegut's Catch-22 because its a classic and it was free and because I've never read it, but I just can't get into it. Anyone have a compelling case for me to dredge forward?


Eeee! Reading A Christmas Carol is wonderful--Dickens has other lovely Christmas stories too, but A Christmas Carol is the best. And I know that the first question isn't directed at me, but Going Clear by Lawrence Wright is a real page-turner, and extremely well-done.


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My boyfriend wrote his first novel, Crabula (an homage to Dracula except the vampire happens to be a giant crab),

please, please tell me this is available somewhere.

Seriously, this sounds awesome!

He's adapting it for the stage at the moment and will be performing it at Leicester Comedy Festival, I think he might make it available to read after that if anyone is still interested next year.

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