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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:08 pm 
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I don't know. Maybe I am a bad person, but I still like Mary better than Edith. Edith would annoy me. I like Mary because I don't have to yell, "Don't be ridiculous!" at the screen--she does it for me.

I feel bad for Edith, but I still love Mary and Sybil more. I like that Mary is a snarky bisque.

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Naked Bates was pretty horrifying. Why is Anna still calling him Mr. Bates? Is that usual?



i was weirded out by both of them being naked! no one has ever been that naked on downton abbey, but i thought it was sweet of mary to make up that room for them so they could finally do it!

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It would have been really nice if Mary had offered to clean the room after they were done. Ha!

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Thomas was the worst tonight! Even O'brien hated him!

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Thomas was the worst tonight! Even O'brien hated him!


I KNOW! I'm just waiting for him to be somehow involved with the first Mrs. Bates' murder.

Also, the Daisy/William's father scene made me bawl.

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Yes! Loved Daisy's story!

But, I have a few questions about this episode

1. Was that Ouiga board Daisy's Christmas gift? Isn't that a weird present to give to someone whose husband just died?
2. In Mr. Bates court case, how did the prosecution know all that stuff that Hughes, O'Brien and Lard Grantham had overhead/said. It's not like there was surveillance. It made no sense to me that they knew exactly what had gone on.
3. Why wasn't Sybill in this episode?

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Gah- Thomas! I'm not sure what I want to happen with him (every show needs a villain, I guess?), but it's not locking dogs in sheds.

Mr. Bates annoyed me too. Did he just tell the prosecution everything they wanted to hear before the trial? Every incriminating conversation? Stop being such a martyr, Mr. Bates!

All of the Matthew/Mary stuff though- excellent. Finally.

And the servants' ball was cute!


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I thought Sybil wasn't in the episode because they wanted to show that Lard Grantham was still not thrilled with her. I wish they had shown a flashback to her wedding though... and maybe next season we'll get some good baby scenes?

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2. In Mr. Bates court case, how did the prosecution know all that stuff that Hughes, O'Brien and Lard Grantham had overhead/said. It's not like there was surveillance. It made no sense to me that they knew exactly what had gone on.

Yeah, what the what? Anyway, loved the Mary/Matthew stuff and the scene with Daisy and William's father. And I love Mrs. Padmore so much!


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How weird would it be to propose to someone with your same last name? Like I know they're super distantly related, but still. Weirdsies.


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I loved the ep overall but my other what the fizzle moment was the supernatural Lavinia's ghost talking through the ouiga board thing. Huh?

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Psh, all shows need more ouija boards.

I really, really, really wanted Isis to eat Thomas' face off when she was out walking with Lard Grantham.

Is it just me, or does Sir Anthony Strallan look a little bit like Stan Sitwell from Arrested Development? I keep waiting for one of his eyebrows to fall off.
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ijustdiedinside wrote:
I loved the ep overall but my other what the fizzle moment was the supernatural Lavinia's ghost talking through the ouiga board thing. Huh?

Hahahaha I forgot about that.


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ijustdiedinside wrote:
I loved the ep overall but my other what the fizzle moment was the supernatural Lavinia's ghost talking through the ouiga board thing. Huh?

Hahahaha I forgot about that.



I would so love to hear Mr. Pamuk speak through the board.

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I loved everything about this episode. I love the Mary/Matthew stuff and especially Daisy and William's father. They are such a cute little adopted family.

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Why would ghost Lavinia try to pass a message along via Anna and Daisy, anyway? They had no idea what was going on.

I would've loved to get a glimpse of Sybil and Branson in Dublin. Sybil's new life would be such a contrast to Downton! It was weird to just have them be absent, I thought.


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ohhh that's how you spell Ouija! I knew mine looked wrong.

I think my favorite scene of the whole night was Daisy and the Dowager Countess. That was adorable!

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I think my favorite scene of the whole night was Daisy and the Dowager Countess. That was adorable!


ME TOO!!!


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I think my favorite scene of the whole night was Daisy and the Dowager Countess. That was adorable!


ME TOO!!!
Agreed; of course, Maggie Smith can read the phone book and make it amazing. That said, if I have a pet peeve about this show it's the completely impossible degree of familiarity between the staff and their employers; the way the servants talk to the family is just insane. It makes for a good soap opera, but like this (to say nothing of Lady Mary fixing up the 10th best bedroom for a valet and a maid to have sexytimes) would just never, ever happen; nouveau riche American mistress notwithstanding!

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really? Not at all? Even if they'd known each other for so many years? I mean, Bates and Lard Grantham were war buddies. I know nothing about this, of course, but it makes me shudder to think that things were even colder for the staff! It's not like they were all best friends (well, except for maybe in that last episode)

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How weird would it be to propose to someone with your same last name? Like I know they're super distantly related, but still. Weirdsies.


This is not unknown in my family (who lived, let's just say, way out in the country). My parents are second cousins once removed (hence my vestigial tail), and I actually did have cousins who had the same surname BEFORE they were married (not sure how close cousins they were). That always freaked me out just a little. But I'm not an aristo: I still become anxious when I hold the salad fork, and I'm quite sure I said the wrong thing to Her Ladyship at the fete.

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ijustdiedinside wrote:
2. In Mr. Bates court case, how did the prosecution know all that stuff that Hughes, O'Brien and Lard Grantham had overhead/said. It's not like there was surveillance. It made no sense to me that they knew exactly what had gone on.


I'm pretty sure there was a line at some point (perhaps from the prosecution barrister?) that indicated that Bates had totally spilled his guts about everything he had ever said to anyone. Silly asparagus.

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3. Why wasn't Sybill in this episode?


I love Sybill (and her cocky Irish chauffeur squeeze), but the show is resolutely Downton and Grantham family centered, so it wouldn't really make sense to cut away to their life in Ireland, much as I'd love to see it!

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When the dowager tell Mary's ex fiance "do you promise", I died!


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When the dowager tell Mary's ex fiance "do you promise", I died!
Again, awesome. My working class English mother used to ask "Is that a threat or a promise?" but she was born in 1929 on a council estate. It just rings completely false. I love this show (because I love soap operasand costume dramas), but it purposely elides the class issues that underpin the world in which it purports to exist.

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