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 Post subject: Re: Language Lab: joys (and not) of foreign language learnin
PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 2:07 am 
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Thanks, lutin.

I don't know. I've been doing a little vocab studying, and fooling with some practice tests. But I'm a little worried I'm going to repeat last year's performance.

Which wouldn't be the end of the world. Except I'd be really disappointed.

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 Post subject: Re: Language Lab: joys (and not) of foreign language learnin
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Just took the TOPIK.

I think I scored 152, which would be enough for level 2.

Last year, I scored 110, which was halfway between levels 1 and 2.

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Footie!!!! That is an amazing amount of improvement!

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An amazing amount of estimated improvement, at least.

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Is this thread still alive? I think it's still alive - anyway...

I've been brushing up on my non-English skills lately with DuoLingo, which has been going pretty well. I'm currently working on improving my (very basic) German and just started learning Swedish with my wife.

She is (by her own admission) not great with language acquisition, but she has crazy-high focus and is doing really well so far. I haven't had anyone to practice language with in quite a while, and even with our "See Jane run" level of Swedish, it's been really helpful.

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 Post subject: Re: Language Lab: joys (and not) of foreign language learnin
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I've started having dreams in Spanish again, which I'm really happy about.


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I've started having dreams in Spanish again, which I'm really happy about.


That's great! It's always a nice feeling when non-native languages start seeping in.

I'm (mostly) fluent in Castilian, and lived in Madrid for a semester in college. I'm happy to practice or offer resources if you need them!

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I've started having dreams in Spanish again, which I'm really happy about.


That's great! It's always a nice feeling when non-native languages start seeping in.

I'm (mostly) fluent in Castilian, and lived in Madrid for a semester in college. I'm happy to practice or offer resources if you need them!


I actually study Spanish and live in Madrid at the moment for my semester abroad!


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My nerdy best friend and I started practicing Danish. She once had ONE class and I lived in Copenhagen for a semester. I understand it, I translate it, I read it - but I can not talk it for the life of me. It's so frustrating so I hope together we can manage to actually talk a bit, practice pronouncing this weird as hell language is the worst! But we love it.

It's so nice to have her in my life as another polyglot who learns languages for no real reason at all. The only languages we both speak are German & English (and bad French and Spanish) so we'd love to speak a language we can both practice. We also keep daydreaming about having enough time to teach each other. I'd love for her to teach me Russian (she went to a Russian school here) or Korean. I already love when we just teach each other random phrases or nerd around about grammar.



... I also realize now how much the Dutch guy affected my confidence. I always felt my Dutch was as good as my English and now every sentence I write feels wrong somehow, I'm second guessing myself all the time, etc. It's really frustrating :(

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 Post subject: Re: Language Lab: joys (and not) of foreign language learnin
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Also, I'm going to an intensive language school in Berlin for two weeks this summer and seeing some other places in DE. I think my favourite thing about learning German is Germany.


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I actually study Spanish and live in Madrid at the moment for my semester abroad!


Oh, excellent! I saw that it said "soon" in your location line so wasn't sure when you would be there.

I'm sure it's changed A TON since I was there, but I'm sure it's still amazing. Hope you're enjoying it :).

ETA: and good luck with German - it's challenging but also fun (I think, anyway). And Berlin is also an awesome city.

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I'm more talk-y in Danish class, which is nice, but so far only works for talking to foreigners or two longtime friends (both currently in Copenhagen) or random people at the post office.

And (!) I graduated to adult Dutch books, all borrowed from my mother-in-law, and can mostly read as comfortably as I do in English. I am .. surprised? Delighted? Two of NB's Dutch friends were here for a long weekend. I did not speak Dutch with them, but was happy that they brought me Dutch books and let me overhear and laugh at their Dutch conversations.

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 Post subject: Re: Language Lab: joys (and not) of foreign language learnin
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I just came back from a BSL assessment in which I forgot to cover half of the points we had been told to. I was a bit thrown by the format, which none of us had properly understood before today- myself and another student had to talk to each other for a bit, then talk to the assessor together. It was odd.
I won't get my results for two weeks, which will be interesting- the previous level was just pass/fail, but we'll get graded A/because for this course. There is another assessment in a few weeks which will affect the overall grade, but that's just on receptive skills- I think today was worth most of the marks.

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 Post subject: Re: Language Lab: joys (and not) of foreign language learnin
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I just came back from a BSL assessment in which I forgot to cover half of the points we had been told to. I was a bit thrown by the format, which none of us had properly understood before today- myself and another student had to talk to each other for a bit, then talk to the assessor together. It was odd.
I won't get my results for two weeks, which will be interesting- the previous level was just pass/fail, but we'll get graded A/because for this course. There is another assessment in a few weeks which will affect the overall grade, but that's just on receptive skills- I think today was worth most of the marks.

What level is that? I did my L2 last year and have been dithering about the L3.

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 Post subject: Re: Language Lab: joys (and not) of foreign language learnin
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I just came back from a BSL assessment in which I forgot to cover half of the points we had been told to. I was a bit thrown by the format, which none of us had properly understood before today- myself and another student had to talk to each other for a bit, then talk to the assessor together. It was odd.
I won't get my results for two weeks, which will be interesting- the previous level was just pass/fail, but we'll get graded A / B / C for this course. There is another assessment in a few weeks which will affect the overall grade, but that's just on receptive skills- I think today was worth most of the marks.

What level is that? I did my L2 last year and have been dithering about the L3.

Level 1. I did an introductory course August to December last year, then forgot so much before starting Level 1 in January that I feel like I know less now than I did in December. I need to practise more, but doing that properly requires socialising and effort.

I've just paid my deposit for Level 2 (next August to June), so maybe that will persuade me to work harder?
I've also asked my team leader at work if I can go on a one-day Deaf Awareness course (they don't know I'm learning BSL, but the course would be focussing mostly on HoH people, aquired hearing loss, communication strategies other than sign, etc which is much more relevant for my work.)

(Hey, I've learned a new filter! "A / B / C" becomes "A/because" without spaces.)

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 Post subject: Re: Language Lab: joys (and not) of foreign language learnin
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GreenDuck wrote:
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GreenDuck wrote:
I just came back from a BSL assessment in which I forgot to cover half of the points we had been told to. I was a bit thrown by the format, which none of us had properly understood before today- myself and another student had to talk to each other for a bit, then talk to the assessor together. It was odd.
I won't get my results for two weeks, which will be interesting- the previous level was just pass/fail, but we'll get graded A / B / C for this course. There is another assessment in a few weeks which will affect the overall grade, but that's just on receptive skills- I think today was worth most of the marks.

What level is that? I did my L2 last year and have been dithering about the L3.

Level 1. I did an introductory course August to December last year, then forgot so much before starting Level 1 in January that I feel like I know less now than I did in December. I need to practise more, but doing that properly requires socialising and effort.

I've just paid my deposit for Level 2 (next August to June), so maybe that will persuade me to work harder?
I've also asked my team leader at work if I can go on a one-day Deaf Awareness course (they don't know I'm learning BSL, but the course would be focussing mostly on HoH people, aquired hearing loss, communication strategies other than sign, etc which is much more relevant for my work.)

(Hey, I've learned a new filter! "A / B / C" becomes "A/because" without spaces.)
The L2 is definitely a step up from L1, but I would say that's a good thing. It really strains the brain bones. The Deaf Community tends to be quite close-knit, but can be quite welcoming if you try. Lots of beginners subject deaf people to death by fingerspelling, which makes everything take a very long time. Make friends, guess at things, fork up, laugh it off and learn!

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 Post subject: Re: Language Lab: joys (and not) of foreign language learnin
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I just got my scores on the TOPIK test:

I'm a level 2!!! Officially a high beginner.

I got a 153. (I thought I'd scored a 152.)

My reading score (88) was way above average (61.40), and my listening score (65) was a little below average (69.52).

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CONGRATULATIONS!!!!! You rock

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FOOTIE! heart-whoop-whoop's all the way! :D :D

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Thanks, people!

Have I reached yet another milestone? Last night, in a dream, I said something in Korean! (Of course, even in the dream, the Korean person I said it to just looked at me and said, "Huh?")

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New pet peeve: people incorrectly correcting English language learners on HelloTalk. Drives me nuts.

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That's an amazing accomplishment, footface! The FSI rates Korean grammar as one of the toughest, levels above Icelandic, which is kicking my asparagus. I can say stuff and understand stuff, but I can only get grammar right for super simple present tense sentences with neuter nouns.

Where I work is a big Koreatown. Most signs are in Korean and many of the restaurants and businesses apparently don't use Enlgish at all. I'd love to try one of the restaurants but have no idea how to navigate finding what's vegan.

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I would be leery of that, too.

Find a guide is my advice.

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Up high, Foots.

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