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 Post subject: Re: Language Lab: joys (and not) of foreign language learnin
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 6:55 pm 
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That's great, ff.

I had a lesson today and it went very well. We are speaking mostly in Icelandic now. My grammar sucks, but he can understand me and I can sometimes understand him. He types any translations in the skype window.

I'm excited because my books came today:

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Brakið is aspirational. It's a thriller by an author I enjoy. I have no chance at all of understanding more than 1 word in 30 right now, but the MP3 audio book was super cheap ($8! Which is weird because everything cost more than I care to remember). I'm hoping that will help my pronunciation and familiarization with speech. The English translation will be out in April.

Harry Potter, I am hoping to muddle through with the help of the dictionary.

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I hope I haven't started an international incident. I use the HelloTalk app all the time to chat (text, that is) with Korean people. Often, if I'm writing in Korean I will look at a translation before I hit "Send."

I was asking my HelloTalk friend what her name means. I had the app translate it for me (I wasn't sure I had the right word for "meaning") and here's what it gave me:

"Sex play. What is your meaning?"

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 Post subject: Re: Language Lab: joys (and not) of foreign language learnin
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I might be ready to move on to the next topic or chapter or whatever. Indirect reporting (etc.) is getting old. I thought I had it all down, but today's lesson managed to confuse me.

저는 선생님한테 우리가 같이 공부하기 시작한 지 2 년 된다고 했어요.

Cheoneun seonsaengnimhante uriga kachi kongbuhagi shijakhan ji i nyeon dwendago haesseoyo.

"I told my teacher it's been 2 years since we started studying together."

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 Post subject: Re: Language Lab: joys (and not) of foreign language learnin
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I haven't had any luck with hello talk.

of course, it might help if I hadn't picked a language that is only spoken by 300,000 people.

Foot face, have you used anything like Anki or Memrise?

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 Post subject: Re: Language Lab: joys (and not) of foreign language learnin
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I use Quizlet for my way-too-many-to-actually-be-practical-so-I-don't-use-them-much-anymore (1,600+) flash cards.

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I walked past a Japanese restaurant yesterday and could read the word for udon written on the sign outside!

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I've started using duolingo for some basic Spanish. I'm not really sure how far it will get me, but if I have some time to kill it's fun and something to do.


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Just started duolingo for Danish since I can't start classes until my cpr card appears (it's taking forever!). Meanwhile NB and I are managing lots of Dutch chatter about all the things :) Kinda curious to see how long until 3 languages breaks my brain.

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 Post subject: Re: Language Lab: joys (and not) of foreign language learnin
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Danish sounds fun. It looks so similar to Icelandic.

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 Post subject: Re: Language Lab: joys (and not) of foreign language learnin
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(Danish-English is beautiful. But of the Nordic languages, Norwegian and Icelandic sound the most beautiful to me.)

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 Post subject: Re: Language Lab: joys (and not) of foreign language learnin
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lutin, in my experience 3 languages at a time is very manageable, especially if the first 2 are very solid (and your Dutch seems to be quite solid by now). It's the 4th one that breaks my brain.


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 Post subject: Re: Language Lab: joys (and not) of foreign language learnin
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I was listening to Icelandic talk radio on my way to work and was happy to find that I can distinguish almost every word. I don't know what most of them mean, but I think the combination of listening to the Glossika sentences and the audiobook I bought has been helping a lot. The Glossika sentences aren't exactly the most scintillating of listening material, but the spaced repetition is good and I can tell an improvement in my overall listening comprehension. It's also a pretty painless way to learn vocabulary and grammatical structure.

Listening has always been, by far, the hardest part of any language for me.

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 Post subject: Re: Language Lab: joys (and not) of foreign language learnin
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Swedish sounds so nice and from what I've read is relatively easy but I'm worried it'll interfere with my German


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 Post subject: Re: Language Lab: joys (and not) of foreign language learnin
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Swedish sounds amazing: few verb conjugations and piles of thrillers to read. Sign me up.

In Icelandic, you must memorize the conjugation group for each verb since you can't tell. Actually, most things in Icelandic seem to be like that.

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 Post subject: Re: Language Lab: joys (and not) of foreign language learnin
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I walked past a Japanese restaurant yesterday and could read the word for udon written on the sign outside!


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 Post subject: Re: Language Lab: joys (and not) of foreign language learnin
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Just realized how much progress NB and I are making with my Dutch: I used to only want to speak when I was feeling good, or in 'good' situations (whatever that is!), and definitely not late at night or half asleep. Now we can chatter in the early mornings and late evenings, and sometimes I even prefer Dutch to English so that my ... English brain can snooze? It's interesting to notice that when I would be tired in the recent past, I would strongly prefer English, and now when I'm really tired, I almost always prefer Dutch because it's "easier". (Ok brain, whatever.)

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Welp. I registered to take the 46th TOPIK test in April. You'll recall (or not) that I took the TOPIK last April, and I didn't do so well. But this time will be... different?

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My lesson today was amazing. I made up a couple of words and they turned out to be either correct or close enough to be understood.

I also learned how to tell someone not to peas in the train station. This will be very useful given Icelands numerous train stations (there aren't any). I also learned that saying this is a great way to get punched in Denmark.

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 Post subject: Re: Language Lab: joys (and not) of foreign language learnin
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Lavawitch: Here's a kick asparagus girl power (kapow!) video written and performed by Icelandic girls. (The lady I got the link from claimed they were 10? I could imagine young teenagers, but I find 10 a little surprising.) Maybe to complement your, ah, useful train station lessons.


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 Post subject: Re: Language Lab: joys (and not) of foreign language learnin
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Neat! I can even understand a lot since it's slow.

I'll be the bus seatmate from hell. I learned to discuss moon phases and the fall of Rome today. I guess this all fits with me: I'm pretty good at useless. It's fun though.

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 Post subject: Re: Language Lab: joys (and not) of foreign language learnin
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I am now speaking to Molly only in Icelandic. She seems to enjoy it. The macaw got very angry and threw his toys on the ground when I tried it with him.

I'm hoping Molly will decide to say "ég elska píg." (I love you.)

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 Post subject: Re: Language Lab: joys (and not) of foreign language learnin
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Have we talked about the HelloTalk app? I love this app.

You can easily find native speakers of the language you're learning who are learning your native language. Then you just... chat. Or exchange voice messages. Or (I think) call them, but that sounds terrifying. If you get stuck, you can translate their text easily. You can translate what you write before you send it, to make sure it's intelligible. There are simple tools to correct the other person's text, and they can correct yours.

I've connected with dozens of Koreans, some of whom I'm been chatting with for weeks. (You know how it is: sometimes you click with someone, sometimes you don't.) Some of them feel like... friends? Maybe? Or, you know... like pen pals. It's really fun.

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 Post subject: Re: Language Lab: joys (and not) of foreign language learnin
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I haven't had any luck there. Maybe it's just me, but I got zero replies, even from people who seem active. I wrote short, friendly little messages.

I've just been using iTalkti for tutoring.

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 Post subject: Re: Language Lab: joys (and not) of foreign language learnin
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I just scheduled a Bengali lesson with a tutor from Bangladesh!

I'm not planning to get super into this, but I have a new student who is low level ELL and has a really tough time at home. I thought it would be nice to learn a few friendly things to say.

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