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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 6:40 pm 
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I'm in camp Piz too. Though, I did love Logan. Piz was just adorable!

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Xander annoyed me often, but I do love him so!

Xander annoyed me frequently, too - he could be such a douche. But I still love him.

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(Off topic, but it's kind of like Piz on Veronica Mars. I just finished re-watching season 3, and it reminded me that I've always thought that Piz was a really good, drama-free match for Veronica. But I know the major relationship support was mostly for her and Logan. (Hey, I just had this weird epiphany that Duncan = Angel and Logan = Spike. Right? Okay, I'm weird.))

I always liked Piz, I just liked Logan more... mostly I felt bad for the poor shaggy-haired cutie. It was doomed from the start. Logan is definitely the Spike of VM, which does make Duncan the Angel, except that Duncan never got even remotely as interesting as Angel and thank god no one ever gave Teddy Dunn his own show.

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 Post subject: Re: The Bronze (Let's Talk Buffy)
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Logan is definitely the Spike of VM, which does make Duncan the Angel, except that Duncan never got even remotely as interesting as Angel and thank god no one ever gave Teddy Dunn his own show.


Yeah, I guess the parallels break down a little with Duncan/Angel. He was her first love, but that's about it. How boring would a Duncan show have been?! Oh my gosh.


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 Post subject: Re: The Bronze (Let's Talk Buffy)
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I'm in camp Piz too. Though, I did love Logan. Piz was just adorable!

I loved Logan, but I thought it was a total turn off when he went around punching people 'cuz he was stupid and jealous. Which is funny, considering I like some pretty violent male characters.

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 Post subject: Re: The Bronze (Let's Talk Buffy)
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KarynMC wrote:
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I'm in camp Piz too. Though, I did love Logan. Piz was just adorable!

I loved Logan, but I thought it was a total turn off when he went around punching people 'cuz he was stupid and jealous. Which is funny, considering I like some pretty violent male characters.

It's funny, I can totally see that, but suzukibeane and I rewatched season 3 recently (well, first watch for her) and every time Logan beat someone up we both got inappropriately hot and bothered.

I only like psychos on tv, I swear.

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 Post subject: Re: The Bronze (Let's Talk Buffy)
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mixmaster_mo wrote:
I'm in camp Piz too. Though, I did love Logan. Piz was just adorable!

I loved Logan, but I thought it was a total turn off when he went around punching people 'cuz he was stupid and jealous. Which is funny, considering I like some pretty violent male characters.

It's funny, I can totally see that, but suzukibeane and I rewatched season 3 recently (well, first watch for her) and every time Logan beat someone up we both got inappropriately hot and bothered.

I only like psychos on tv, I swear.


I don't know why I get turned off by Logan. I think it's because he punches people just because he's possessive and jealous, and I only find that hot when the guy has fangs. /fictional issues

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You can listen to Dru speak without wanting to die a thousand deaths? That fake British accent makes my sphincter implode!

Apparently? It's not like her accent is her only character trait. C'mon! She's so creepy! And Spike's awesome/creepy when he's taking care of her in S2! She is just completely insane and badass. Also, hilarious.


Haha, true. I guess it's just a general thing for me- people doing gawdawful English accents in American shows? Nothing personal against Dru, but if you were constantly subjected to 'American' accents which bore no relation to any you knew existed in real life would you not get just a wee bit "Come on"!!??!!

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 Post subject: Re: The Bronze (Let's Talk Buffy)
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You can listen to Dru speak without wanting to die a thousand deaths? That fake British accent makes my sphincter implode!

Apparently? It's not like her accent is her only character trait. C'mon! She's so creepy! And Spike's awesome/creepy when he's taking care of her in S2! She is just completely insane and badass. Also, hilarious.


Haha, true. I guess it's just a general thing for me- people doing gawdawful English accents in American shows? Nothing personal against Dru, but if you were constantly subjected to 'American' accents which bore no relation to any you knew existed in real life would you not get just a wee bit "Come on"!!??!!


I get this feeling whenever I watch Torchwood (John Barrowman just does not have the accent down) so I guess I do get it.


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She's also supposed to be from the 1800s, who knows how their accents were then? *
And Spike's got no natural English accent either. And Angel and his Irish accent?

I just read on Wikipedia she was going for a Cockney accent.

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 Post subject: Re: The Bronze (Let's Talk Buffy)
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Okay I can see the whole Tara/Willow musical number being ridiculous on so many levels. So full of cheese (and not good vegan cheese)!

Also agree with not feeling the love for Glory. That whole storyline was lame imo and I couldn't wait for it to be over. I found her character just to be obnoxious.


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She's also supposed to be from the 1800s, who knows how their accents were then? *
And Spike's got no natural English accent either. And Angel and his Irish accent?

I just read on Wikipedia she was going for a Cockney accent.

I've read that Wes is the only American in the Whedonverse with a realistic accent.

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 Post subject: Re: The Bronze (Let's Talk Buffy)
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I've always wondered why Darla had no accent whatsoever. Even if she was American, she was pretty old. It seems like she would've had something muddled.

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She's also supposed to be from the 1800s, who knows how their accents were then? *
And Spike's got no natural English accent either. And Angel and his Irish accent?

I just read on Wikipedia she was going for a Cockney accent.


All of them were wrong, but hers was the worst! Even real 'cockney' accents do my head in a bit tho (and I'm sure the same could be said of some Scottish accents. Well, slightly less as we're just too damn sexy) I'm probably just a racialist or sommat.

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 Post subject: Re: The Bronze (Let's Talk Buffy)
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She's also supposed to be from the 1800s, who knows how their accents were then? *
And Spike's got no natural English accent either. And Angel and his Irish accent?

Oh god, Angel's Irish accent. Angel's flashback hair. So bad. And let's not even talk about Kendra's accent.

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Fee wrote:
She's also supposed to be from the 1800s, who knows how their accents were then? *
And Spike's got no natural English accent either. And Angel and his Irish accent?

Oh god, Angel's Irish accent. Angel's flashback mustache. So bad. And let's not even talk about Kendra's accent.

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Apparently? It's not like her accent is her only character trait. C'mon! She's so creepy! And Spike's awesome/creepy when he's taking care of her in S2! She is just completely insane and badass. Also, hilarious.


Haha, true. I guess it's just a general thing for me- people doing gawdawful English accents in American shows? Nothing personal against Dru, but if you were constantly subjected to 'American' accents which bore no relation to any you knew existed in real life would you not get just a wee bit "Come on"!!??!!


I get this feeling whenever I watch Torchwood (John Barrowman just does not have the accent down) so I guess I do get it.


That's funny, because Barrowman is sooooo American from this perspective! When he 'puts on' his Scottish accent it sounds majorly false!

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And let's not even talk about Kendra's accent.

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And let's not even talk about Kendra's accent.

Caaaaall me now, for ya free tarot readin'!

This just made me spit my water all over my desk.

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(Hey, I just had this weird epiphany that Duncan = Angel and Logan = Spike. Right? Okay, I'm weird.))


Totally! I've had a similar thought. I don't know if there's a Veronica Mars thread yet but there should be. I'm only halfway through season 3.


And now I'm trying to find a way to watch Season 5 Ep. 10 of Angel. It's so annoying that it's the only one not on Netflix Watch Instantly. Just thought someone should whine about that on the new board.


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Totally! I've had a similar thought. I don't know if there's a Veronica Mars thread yet but there should be. I'm only halfway through season 3.

Ooh, start the thread!

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Totally! I've had a similar thought. I don't know if there's a Veronica Mars thread yet but there should be. I'm only halfway through season 3.

Ooh, start the thread!

I just did!

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I kind of liked Glory too....


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Me too! She's not my favorite villain, but she was always amusing.

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Me too! She's not my favorite villain, but she was always amusing.


I didn't like her much, but I LOVED her minions.


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Oh, my sweet lumpy minions.

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