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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:12 pm 
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Oh, but I also still LOVE the musical episode. It's probably my favorite episode of the series!

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oh, but I really liked that episode. I don't know if thats what they were implying, but I liked seeing it from a different angle. I tend to forget while watching shows like buffy or angel that the majority of society would think you were crazy if you said that all the things that were happening were real.

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 Post subject: Re: The Bronze (Let's Talk Buffy)
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Sorry if I wasn't clear in why I hate the episode. If they had just not put that last little scene with Buffy in the loony bin (which I still don't believe was the "true" Buffy reality), I wouldn't have hated it as much. It's like (and from the writer's commentary on the DVD, quite intentional) they were trying to say that all of Buffy's Sunnydale life could be just her delusion/hallucination even in the end. If they'd have left that implication out, I would agree with your seeing it as an interesting POV change.

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The whole Spike relationship development is totally making up for all the depressing-ness that was Season 5.


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I watched a random move with SMG in it when I was off work sick. I can't remember what it was called but she was an editor who fell in love with Alec Baldwin. I like SMG.


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I watched a random move with SMG in it when I was off work sick. I can't remember what it was called but she was an editor who fell in love with Alec Baldwin. I like SMG.

I saw that! It was ... not my favoritest.

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I'm watching a movie called TiMER and Anya is in it! plus that lady who played that other vengeance daemon.

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 Post subject: Re: The Bronze (Let's Talk Buffy)
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I'm watching a movie called TiMER and Anya is in it! plus that lady who played that other vengeance daemon.

TiMER was cute!

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I loved that movie!


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KarynMC wrote:
Sarah-Jane wrote:
I watched a random move with SMG in it when I was off work sick. I can't remember what it was called but she was an editor who fell in love with Alec Baldwin. I like SMG.

I saw that! It was ... not my favoritest.

Oh god, it was so bad.


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oh, but I really liked that episode. I don't know if thats what they were implying, but I liked seeing it from a different angle. I tend to forget while watching shows like buffy or angel that the majority of society would think you were crazy if you said that all the things that were happening were real.


I don't like Normal Again ... but I love it on Supernatural when the characters tell other people the truth to make them think they're crazy. It's just always funny.

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 Post subject: Re: The Bronze (Let's Talk Buffy)
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I'm actually watching it as research for an independent study.
It's nice so far, but I'm only 15 minutes.

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 Post subject: Re: The Bronze (Let's Talk Buffy)
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Sarah-Jane wrote:
I watched a random move with SMG in it when I was off work sick. I can't remember what it was called but she was an editor who fell in love with Alec Baldwin.

Oh Lard, that movie was so bad. Even by rom-com standards.

booberthefraggle wrote:
I'm watching a movie called TiMER and Anya is in it! plus that lady who played that other vengeance daemon.

TiMER, on the other hand, was pretty adorable. Anyanka and Halfrek, together forever.

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I just watched TiMER because of Anya's hilarity. Twas very cute.


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 Post subject: Re: The Bronze (Let's Talk Buffy)
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There's an auction of Whedon stuff to benefit the Woodstock Farm Animal Sanctuary ...

http://shop.ebay.com/ausiellotvswag/m.h ... m=&_ipg=25

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 Post subject: Re: The Bronze (Let's Talk Buffy)
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Last night I wanted to just watch a random Buffy episode, so I picked Lie to Me because I remembered it as kind of silly. When rewatching, I'm really struck by how even episodes that I didn't remember as being that great/important (doofy wannabe vampire cult!) just have so much great character development and are more intense and darker than I remember. Are there actually any throw-away episodes that are fun and silly but not important to plot/character development? I mean, yes, but really not that many. That's great.


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Whovian wrote:
Oh, but I also still LOVE the musical episode. It's probably my favorite episode of the series!



That one and also the one where Willow screws up the spell and everyone loses their memories. I also liked the Buffy Bot. Or when Giles wakes up as a demon. Honestly I probably have 10 favorite episodes - at least.


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Last night I wanted to just watch a random Buffy episode, so I picked Lie to Me because I remembered it as kind of silly. When rewatching, I'm really struck by how even episodes that I didn't remember as being that great/important (doofy wannabe vampire cult!) just have so much great character development and are more intense and darker than I remember. Are there actually any throw-away episodes that are fun and silly but not important to plot/character development? I mean, yes, but really not that many. That's great.


I was re-watching an Ep from season 1 and at the end Willow, Zander and Buffy were discussing what their worst case scenario relationships would be like and of course later all of it came true. It makes me wonder if everything was planned out from the beginning, or if Whedon looked back at the old episodes for inspiration? Supposedly Spike was a break out character, so the former option seems unlikely.


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Last night my friend and I watched Restless again. That ep was so cool, because the dreams were so dream-like. I've had some dreams just like those.

Also, we watched parts of Innocence. I have seen that ep more than any other ep, because I'm an evil bisque and I always laugh out loud during the scene with Buffy and Angel in his apartment. That might be my favorite Buffy scene ever. Aside from being funny... there's also the outfit Angel wears when he enters the scene...


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Last night my friend and I watched Restless again. That ep was so cool, because the dreams were so dream-like. I've had some dreams just like those.

Also, we watched parts of Innocence. I have seen that ep more than any other ep, because I'm an evil bisque and I always laugh out loud during the scene with Buffy and Angel in his apartment. That might be my favorite Buffy scene ever. Aside from being funny... there's also the outfit Angel wears when he enters the scene...


I noticed while re-watching Firefly that they use that desert in a lot of scenes, you know the "first-slayer" desert. I love Restless for the Cheese Man and Giles singing and yeah, the dreams are really dream-like.

I always found Innocence sad, poor Buffy.


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Last night I wanted to just watch a random Buffy episode, so I picked Lie to Me because I remembered it as kind of silly. When rewatching, I'm really struck by how even episodes that I didn't remember as being that great/important (doofy wannabe vampire cult!) just have so much great character development and are more intense and darker than I remember. Are there actually any throw-away episodes that are fun and silly but not important to plot/character development? I mean, yes, but really not that many. That's great.


I was re-watching an Ep from season 1 and at the end Willow, Zander and Buffy were discussing what their worst case scenario relationships would be like and of course later all of it came true. It makes me wonder if everything was planned out from the beginning, or if Whedon looked back at the old episodes for inspiration? Supposedly Spike was a break out character, so the former option seems unlikely.


I often wonder if Joss knew what was going to happen in Buffy right from the beginning, too. Watching it back there are so many things, right from the beginning, that hint at what will happen in later seasons. Like in Doppelgangland vampire Willow (who I loved) is pointed out as being "kinda gay" and of course he knew about Dawn from pretty early on.


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Sarah-Jane wrote:

I often wonder if Joss knew what was going to happen in Buffy right from the beginning, too. Watching it back there are so many things, right from the beginning, that hint at what will happen in later seasons. Like in Doppelgangland vampire Willow (who I loved) is pointed out as being "kinda gay" and of course he knew about Dawn from pretty early on.

Which reminds me that during Restless, Tara tells Buffy to "be back before dawn." I know someone else commented on that line. Although, that was the season 4 finale, so I'm sure they knew Dawn would be added 5th season. What other Dawn hints were there?


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I believe Faith says something about Dawn when she and Buffy are making a bed in Buffy's dream?

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I believe Faith says something about Dawn when she and Buffy are making a bed in Buffy's dream?

Yeah, she says something about "getting ready for little sister." It's not in Restless though. It's one of the earlier eps in S4.


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I believe Faith says something about Dawn when she and Buffy are making a bed in Buffy's dream?

Yeah, she says something about "getting ready for little sister." It's not in Restless though. It's one of the earlier eps in S4.

I didn't say it was in Restless! :D

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