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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 3:39 pm 
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Oh and even though most people here have seen all the episodes? I know we try to avoid spoilers.

I have to say I hated Tara and was glad what happened to her although felt bad for Willow.

Spike was my favorite and Crazy Drew was annoying.

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Interrobang, you can't fight these people! I love a certain character and I've just given up on professing that love already. Haha.

Your love for him confounds me! But you are still awesome.

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Oh and even though most people here have seen all the episodes? I know we try to avoid spoilers.

I don't know, I think avoiding spoilers for a show that's been off the air for 7 years is kind of ridiculous. I know people are still getting into it, but come on now.

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If I avoided the other epic Buffy thread for the entire month it took me to watch all 7 seasons, everyone else can too!

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linanil wrote:
Oh and even though most people here have seen all the episodes? I know we try to avoid spoilers.

I don't know, I think avoiding spoilers for a show that's been off the air for 7 years is kind of ridiculous. I know people are still getting into it, but come on now.


That is true! So hopefully someone wouldn't get upset if we said something about what happens in the show. I personally don't mind spoilers.

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 Post subject: Re: The Bronze (Let's Talk Buffy)
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If I avoided the other epic Buffy thread for the entire month it took me to watch all 7 seasons, everyone else can too!

Exactly! As far as I'm concerned, if it's aired, it's fair game, and I really don't think anyone can cry spoilers seven YEARS after a series ends. So I wouldn't worry about it at all.

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mixmaster_mo wrote:
Interrobang, you can't fight these people! I love a certain character and I've just given up on professing that love already. Haha.

Your love for him confounds me! But you are still awesome.


God. It's Jonathan, isn't it?


Also, I think there's a statute of limitations on spoilers. We're way beyond that now, no?

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 Post subject: Re: The Bronze (Let's Talk Buffy)
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Can I ask what's up with the hardcore Tara hatin'?


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Can I ask what's up with the hardcore Tara hatin'?

None over here! I love Tara. She's so awkward.

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I liked peeping in on the other Buffy thread while I was watching the whole series, to talk about stuff that was happening or gush over a particularly great episode, so I guess I appreciated when people said something before they talked about specific spoiler-y things. And then I could just try to not read those.

Of course, then I ended up compulsively reading spoilers anyways, so it didn't matter.


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 Post subject: Re: The Bronze (Let's Talk Buffy)
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God. It's Jonathan, isn't it?

I did think Jonathan was funny, but I'm talking about Riley. I thought he was definitely Buffy's best lover, seeing as how he didn't try killing her friends or family at any point. Also, I think Marc Blucas is hot. He was vanilla and there wasn't nearly as much passion as with Angel, but I think he was the best for her as far as stable relationships go.

About spoiling: if it's aired, it's not spoiling! (This does not include comics).

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 Post subject: Re: The Bronze (Let's Talk Buffy)
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amandabear wrote:
lostgirl12 wrote:
Can I ask what's up with the hardcore Tara hatin'?

None over here! I love Tara. She's so awkward.


To be honest, I only really disliked her because I cannot watch that duet with Willow in Once More With Feeling. It makes me cringe to my boots.

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 Post subject: Re: The Bronze (Let's Talk Buffy)
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interrobang?! wrote:
To be honest, I only really disliked her because I cannot watch that duet with Willow in Once More With Feeling. It makes me cringe to my boots.

Okay, I will totally give you that. The outfits in OMWF are so awful and the whole dancing by a lake at Ren Faire vibe is a total "what the fork?" moment.

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 Post subject: Re: The Bronze (Let's Talk Buffy)
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amandabear wrote:
interrobang?! wrote:
To be honest, I only really disliked her because I cannot watch that duet with Willow in Once More With Feeling. It makes me cringe to my boots.

Okay, I will totally give you that. They outfits in OMWF are so awful and the whole dancing by a lake at Ren Faire vibe is a total "what the fork?" moment.


Agreed, it was a rather painful moment in a completely amazing episode. You know something sad? I have all the seasons on DVD and I'm missing one disc. It's the one with Once More With Feeling. I cry.

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 Post subject: Re: The Bronze (Let's Talk Buffy)
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amandabear wrote:
interrobang?! wrote:
To be honest, I only really disliked her because I cannot watch that duet with Willow in Once More With Feeling. It makes me cringe to my boots.

Okay, I will totally give you that. They outfits in OMWF are so awful and the whole dancing by a lake at Ren Faire vibe is a total "what the fork?" moment.


And the screechy high-pitched singing! Eeeee. I laughed when I watched the commentary and Joss said how awesome a singer Amber was irl. Really? Really really? I mean... no. I did not like.

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 Post subject: Re: The Bronze (Let's Talk Buffy)
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interrobang?! wrote:
God. It's Jonathan, isn't it?

I did think Jonathan was funny, but I'm talking about Riley. I thought he was definitely Buffy's best lover, seeing as how he didn't try killing her friends or family at any point. Also, I think Marc Blucas is hot. He was vanilla and there wasn't nearly as much passion as with Angel, but I think he was the best for her as far as stable relationships go.



Mo, it looks like you and I still stand alone in our love of Riley. When I posted it on the old boards I thought heads were going to explode.

However, I join the ranks in the hatred of Kennedy. I wish that character had never been born.

I don't think I could pick a favorite character but that's okay because I have enough love to go around.


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 Post subject: Re: The Bronze (Let's Talk Buffy)
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About spoiling: if it's aired, it's not spoiling! (This does not include comics).

Word. The televised series is fair game, but please refrain from spoilers regarding the comic, especially recent storylines. Pretty please.

Re: Tara, I thought she was profoundly irritating in season 4, but by season 6 I had grown to really like her. She became such a strong, solid character, and such a stable force in Willow's life. I'm not a fan of Amber Benson's, though. Just Tara.


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Guys, Tara essentially tells Spike to ice his dick. SHE IS FULL OF WIN.

And stop picking on Dru! Dru rocks!

ON PAPER, Riley is just fine. I liked Jane Espenson's Riley comic. Mark Blucas makes me want to stab puppies. I can't even say it's the hair, because Jared P of SPN has some of the worst hair seen on television, and I still love his character. Riley's insecurities about Buffy being stronger than him were really annoying. Xander had a little of that back in high school, but he was way more accepting about living around all these women with superpowers.

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You can listen to Dru speak without wanting to die a thousand deaths? That fake British accent makes my sphincter implode!

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ON PAPER, Riley is just fine. I liked Jane Espenson's Riley comic. Mark Blucas makes me want to stab puppies. I can't even say it's the hair, because Jared P of SPN has some of the worst hair seen on television, and I still love his character. Riley's insecurities about Buffy being stronger than him were really annoying. Xander had a little of that back in high school, but he was way more accepting about living around all these women with superpowers.

Yep, this. And so true on the hair thing. I love Sammy but goddamn that hair is awful. It was Riley's whole insecurity thing that bugged me the most.

I didn't even read that comic, though; the thought of spending actual money on something about Riley makes my forehead go veiny.

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You can listen to Dru speak without wanting to die a thousand deaths? That fake British accent makes my sphincter implode!

Apparently? It's not like her accent is her only character trait. C'mon! She's so creepy! And Spike's awesome/creepy when he's taking care of her in S2! She is just completely insane and badass. Also, hilarious.

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I'm trying to think of characters I genuinely hate. I think Glory is the only one. From the acting to the storylines to everything about Clare Kramer. I've been annoyed by certain characters but never passionately so. I liked Tara from the beginning! Xander annoyed me often, but I do love him so!

But I think I need to watch the show again so I can be sure there's not a hatred that runs so deep I've forgotten it.

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I'm sure I've mentioned this before, but my disdain for Riley can be attributed almost entirely to Blucas. Who knows how I would feel about the character if he had been portrayed by a decent actor.

And I don't get the Dru hate either. Homegirl is so deliciously insane.


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ON PAPER, Riley is just fine. I liked Jane Espenson's Riley comic. Mark Blucas makes me want to stab puppies. I can't even say it's the hair, because Jared P of SPN has some of the worst hair seen on television, and I still love his character. Riley's insecurities about Buffy being stronger than him were really annoying. Xander had a little of that back in high school, but he was way more accepting about living around all these women with superpowers.

Yep, this. And so true on the hair thing. I love Sammy but goddamn that hair is awful. It was Riley's whole insecurity thing that bugged me the most.

I didn't even read that comic, though; the thought of spending actual money on something about Riley makes my forehead go veiny.

The art was pretty terrible (I don't know if that's supposed to be Angel or a frog), but Jane writes fun dialogue and it made me enjoy Riley and Sam as a couple.

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KarynMC wrote:
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You can listen to Dru speak without wanting to die a thousand deaths? That fake British accent makes my sphincter implode!

Apparently? It's not like her accent is her only character trait. C'mon! She's so creepy! And Spike's awesome/creepy when he's taking care of her in S2! She is just completely insane and badass. Also, hilarious.


Nooo I love Dru! Her craziness makes smile so much! Maybe I'm just distracted by her sexy evil thing but I never picked up the bad accent.


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Mo, it looks like you and I still stand alone in our love of Riley. When I posted it on the old boards I thought heads were going to explode.


I don't think I ever hated Riley, and I actually came to like him upon repeated viewings. He's not the most exciting, but I do think he was the best boyfriend for Buffy, in that he was stable and consistently treated her well.

(Off topic, but it's kind of like Piz on Veronica Mars. I just finished re-watching season 3, and it reminded me that I've always thought that Piz was a really good, drama-free match for Veronica. But I know the major relationship support was mostly for her and Logan. (Hey, I just had this weird epiphany that Duncan = Angel and Logan = Spike. Right? Okay, I'm weird.))


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