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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:28 pm 
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P.S. Is there a thread floating around here somewhere, like a "Things I Love About Myself" thread? Because I think that would be pretty awesome.


I don't think there's one exactly like that, although someone did make a "things I'm good at" thread a while back. You should start one though!

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 Post subject: Re: Had enough of body shaming?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:14 pm 
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Opium des Volkes wrote:
P.S. Is there a thread floating around here somewhere, like a "Things I Love About Myself" thread? Because I think that would be pretty awesome.


The body positivity thread was a bit like that: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=6976&


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 Post subject: Re: Had enough of body shaming?
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This just showed up on my facebook feed. It sure is awesome that only women who look a certain way are attractive.

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 Post subject: Re: Had enough of body shaming?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:44 pm 
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Oh god, that showed up in my facebook feed a few weeks ago and it made me absolutely *livid*. I went off in the comments and got attacked by a bunch of people who couldn't understand why I was so upset because I'm quite heavy (so I should be flattered???). I lost a few 'friends' that day (they de-friended me).

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 Post subject: Re: Had enough of body shaming?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:49 pm 
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Oh god, that showed up in my facebook feed a few weeks ago and it made me absolutely *livid*. I went off in the comments and got attacked by a bunch of people who couldn't understand why I was so upset because I'm quite heavy (so I should be flattered???). I lost a few 'friends' that day (they de-friended me).


Yeah, aside from reverse body-shaming, that image also reeks of the idea that big women, fat women, chubby women, should be FLATTERED that people find them attractive. Like, "Oh, no worries! See? I'd totally do you! You should feel happy because of this."

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 Post subject: Re: Had enough of body shaming?
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Totally.

I would say, though, that this is straight up body shaming; I don't see a need to give it a different name than when the shame is placed on a larger woman. It's all the same bullshiitake oppression of women that we need to smash! :)

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 Post subject: Re: Had enough of body shaming?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:39 pm 
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You are right, JoPa. Totes.

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 Post subject: Re: Had enough of body shaming?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:49 pm 
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You guys might be interested in "The Marilyn Meme":
http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/20 ... ilyn-meme/

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 Post subject: Re: Had enough of body shaming?
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My sister had that on her facebook a while back. I wanted to ask why both bodies weren't okay, but I didn't think it was worth the fight that would ensue.


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 Post subject: Re: Had enough of body shaming?
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Totally.

I would say, though, that this is straight up body shaming; I don't see a need to give it a different name than when the shame is placed on a larger woman. It's all the same bullshiitake oppression of women that we need to smash! :)


I don't think that is the worst part of that image. I find the use of "this" most offensive. This is a two-fer: body shaming and total depersonalization/objectification in one.

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 Post subject: Re: Had enough of body shaming?
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I really hate the Marilyn memes, the "real women have curves" the "has a body of a 12 year old boy", business. One, it's mean and body-shaming. Two, it suggests that the only thing women should care about is whether or not people (okay, men) want to have sex with them. See, curvy women, your body's okay because men want to have sex with you! If they didn't, then it wouldn't be. Blaaargh!


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 Post subject: Re: Had enough of body shaming?
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This is indesribably offensive:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-18770328

I've written a complaint to the BBC about how triggering it is and how horrible the sweeping statements of 'You have more body fat than XX% of people of your gender in the world' are. Apparently my high proportion of muscle doesn't count because I'm in the top 6% of fattest people in the world and if everyone was as fat as me there'd be a bajillion more tonnes of fat on the planet.

>RAGE<


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 Post subject: Re: Had enough of body shaming?
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8ball wrote:
This is indesribably offensive:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-18770328

I've written a complaint to the BBC about how triggering it is and how horrible the sweeping statements of 'You have more body fat than XX% of people of your gender in the world' are. Apparently my high proportion of muscle doesn't count because I'm in the top 6% of fattest people in the world and if everyone was as fat as me there'd be a bajillion more tonnes of fat on the planet.

>RAGE<


I really don't trust their data. I am the average dress size for France, I highly doubt that's compatible with being in the 92nd percentile for fat.


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 Post subject: Re: Had enough of body shaming?
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If they're talking about all the people around the world, wouldn't that include a lot of malnourished people?

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 Post subject: Re: Had enough of body shaming?
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Yeah...I was told I'm most like someone from Chad? What a strange thing. What are they trying to accomplish?

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 Post subject: Re: Had enough of body shaming?
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I saw that this morning and had a panic attack when I entered my info. Comparing in that manner is not safe for anyone, no matter what your body type.


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 Post subject: Re: Had enough of body shaming?
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quark wrote:
If they're talking about all the people around the world, wouldn't that include a lot of malnourished people?
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Yeah...I was told I'm most like someone from Chad? What a strange thing. What are they trying to accomplish?
Dumbest thing ever. (And apparently, I am most like someone from Eritrea; I'm not sure how this is meant to make me feel.)

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 Post subject: Re: Had enough of body shaming?
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Apparently I'm most like someone from Belarus?

I'm told I'm above 51% of other 15-29 males in Canada. I feel so mediocre.

editted to add: holy shiitake, I didn't notice the "Did you know?
If everyone in the world had the same BMI as you, it would add 24,785,165 tonnes to the total weight of the world's population". Well, isn't that delightful...


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 Post subject: Re: Had enough of body shaming?
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If everyone was like me, there'd be less fat in the world. But the Olympics would be hella boring because the sprinters would be all soft and squishy and would run at roughly the same pace as the marathoners, who would have to stop at the half-way point. The gymnasts would be screwed, what with my width of hip and utter lack of upper body strength...

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...if everyone was as fat as me there'd be a bajillion more tonnes of fat on the planet.

If everyone could write and perform music like you, there'd be a bajillion more songs on the planet. Seriously, we're all a damn sight more interesting than our weight.

Also, I now imagine Chad to be populated with a disproportionately high number of badass lady pilots.

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 Post subject: Re: Had enough of body shaming?
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8ball wrote:
This is indesribably offensive:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-18770328

I've written a complaint to the BBC about how triggering it is and how horrible the sweeping statements of 'You have more body fat than XX% of people of your gender in the world' are. Apparently my high proportion of muscle doesn't count because I'm in the top 6% of fattest people in the world and if everyone was as fat as me there'd be a bajillion more tonnes of fat on the planet.

>RAGE<


Oh my gosh yes! This made me so forking angry this morning. The tone is utterly sanctimonious and judgemental and the data seems completely screwed up and the results are worded in a really difficult to understand fashion. Such an irresponsible, pointless and ill-thought out feature.


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o/t, but does anyone know who the woman on the right is?

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o/t, but does anyone know who the woman on the right is?

I believe it's Kate Bosworth.

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Seriously, we're all a damn sight more interesting than our weight.

fork yeah.


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 Post subject: Re: Had enough of body shaming?
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When I was checking my email, I saw this story:
http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/sk ... ities.html

Some blogger, who runs a website/forum for "skinny people", thinks Kate Upton, the supermodel who has been praised as having a "more natural/curvy (although she is definitely still a thin person), is too fat, and that her body shouldn't be celebrated.

I took a peek at the website she runs (curiosity is the worst), and it is the worst kind of body shaming I have ever come across.
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http://www.skinnygossip.com/fat-pride-b ... ment-16010
"A magazine for “plus size” women (aka. fat girls) Plus Model Magazine, featured an editorial in this month’s issue that made me both angry and sick to my stomach. While you fat lovers out there (we know you come here too!) are going to have lots to say defending this, most of you skinny gurls need to be prepared for what you’re about to see.
I’m not sure what is more disgusting – the pictures or the statistics they are using to make their point – some of which are incorrect.
The editorial throws around lots of statistics trying to make the point that models are too skinny and no longer portray the “average” woman. Well – sorry to burst your bubble – but:

Fashion models aren’t supposed to portray the average woman – they’re supposed to be aspirational.
The “average woman” nowadays is a fatass!"

Uggggghhhhhhhhhhh.

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 Post subject: Re: Had enough of body shaming?
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I took a peek at the website she runs (curiosity is the worst), and it is the worst kind of body shaming I have ever come across.


I'm feeling quite angry after looking at her site. I can't get where the downright nastiness comes from.


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