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 Post subject: Re: Teen shot in Florida, 911 calls released.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:53 pm 
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What the hell. Just . . . what the hell. (Tofulish, you're right, FL is a forked up place.)


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 Post subject: Re: Teen shot in Florida, 911 calls released.
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I'm so sickened and heartbroken.


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 Post subject: Re: Teen shot in Florida, 911 calls released.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:58 pm 
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Stand your ground doesn't apply if you're a black woman apparently. And she didn't shoot anybody!

http://m.cbsnews.com/storysynopsis.rbml ... d=57433184

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 Post subject: Re: Teen shot in Florida, 911 calls released.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:01 pm 
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Zimmerman's defense team didn't use the SYG defense in the trial. Its just apparently okay to kill black kids in the street if they're looking suspicious enough.

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 Post subject: Re: Teen shot in Florida, 911 calls released.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:03 pm 
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starrynight87 wrote:
What the hell. Just . . . what the hell. (Tofulish, you're right, FL is a forked up place.)


I wouldn't say its limited to Florida. Kimani Grey had something similar happen here in NYC not long ago. And Ramarley Graham and Sean Bell, and Oscar Grant.... http://www.theroot.com/multimedia/beyon ... nd-unarmed

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 Post subject: Re: Teen shot in Florida, 911 calls released.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:11 pm 
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Beyond reasonable doubt is a tough hurdle, so I didnt think murder would stick, but not guilty of even manslaughter?!? I am floored...

Yeah boy. That is what is outright bizarre. If that isn't manslaughter I don't know what is. Holy hell.

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 Post subject: Re: Teen shot in Florida, 911 calls released.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:12 pm 
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What exactly was his defense then?

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 Post subject: Re: Teen shot in Florida, 911 calls released.
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What exactly was his defense then?


That Trayvon attacked him and he shot in self defense. He didn't take the stand so I don't think they ever really addressed the fact that he was stalking Trayvon.

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 Post subject: Re: Teen shot in Florida, 911 calls released.
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 Post subject: Re: Teen shot in Florida, 911 calls released.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:20 pm 
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just, gigantic huge sad.

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 Post subject: Re: Teen shot in Florida, 911 calls released.
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so, i learned about the verdict from Occupy Wall Street's facebook page. i wasn't surprised by the verdict, but i was aghast at the reactions of pretty much everyone who commented. read the comments only if you want a really good rage.

i'd say this has been a pretty shitty week all around.

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 Post subject: Re: Teen shot in Florida, 911 calls released.
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Apparently NYC is closing off some areas like Dyckman St in preparation for rioting. I expect it is unsurprising that the people who brought us "Stop and Frisk" are continuing to spread the myth that black people are dangerous and more prone to crime than other groups. I have more but it is excessively bitter.

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 Post subject: Re: Teen shot in Florida, 911 calls released.
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 Post subject: Re: Teen shot in Florida, 911 calls released.
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Well, I guess its like the Texas legislature confiscating tampons. Its always better to treat your victims like they could potentially be dangerous, hysterical attackers, distracting from the old white dude behind the curtain..

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 Post subject: Re: Teen shot in Florida, 911 calls released.
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The thing that makes me nuts is that the overlap of people who think it was totally cool to shoot a child and people who think abortion is murder is huge.

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 Post subject: Re: Teen shot in Florida, 911 calls released.
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 Post subject: Re: Teen shot in Florida, 911 calls released.
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It's an ugly day (is an under statement).

The looks on Zimmerman's legal team at the announcement are awful.

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 Post subject: Re: Teen shot in Florida, 911 calls released.
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It's a very sad night for America. I'm a mix of sad, angry, and worried for this country. What bothers me particularly about some comments is the people who are so insistent that race had nothing to do with this and accuse Trayvon supporters of race baiting. It's almost less frustrating to see the flat-out racist remarks than the ones that boil this down to an issue of "self defense" or "2nd amendment." Yeah right.

About rioting- I'll admit it, I cancelled my plans for tonight when I heard the verdict. I have African American friends and Hispanic friends who did the same. We aren't expecting riots, it just seems better safe than sorry considering this is such a tense situation. It's not just the possiblility of a riot, violence can be on a smaller scale. Hell, I've had friends get threatened for wearing the wrong football team's jersey.


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 Post subject: Re: Teen shot in Florida, 911 calls released.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:08 am 
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Ugh, I had been checking on this but didn't check last night. I am shocked. Maybe I shouldn't be but I am.

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 Post subject: Re: Teen shot in Florida, 911 calls released.
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The thing that makes me nuts is that the overlap of people who think it was totally cool to shoot a child and people who think abortion is murder is huge.


exactly.

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It's an ugly day (is an under statement).

The looks on Zimmerman's legal team at the announcement are awful.

The looks, their statements, the brother's statements. Americans do like winning rather than being right or just or kind.

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jdfunks wrote:
It's an ugly day (is an under statement).

The looks on Zimmerman's legal team at the announcement are awful.

The looks, their statements, the brother's statements. Americans do like winning rather than being right or just or kind.


Your comment on winning is right on. Whenever I see lawyers rejoice in getting somebody off, that is my first thought. Its like a game that has lost the context of what is right and wrong. (And yes I know that that is their job, to provide the best defense for the client, and yes I know I'm painting with a broad brush. Sorry to the lawyers in the group but that doesn't change how I feel.)

And that brother just needs to shut his mouth, IMO. I turned on the news briefly last night and just cringed hearing him; he is not helping anybody with his demeanor and comments.


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 Post subject: Re: Teen shot in Florida, 911 calls released.
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Here are the victim's parents:
http://blackloveisabeautifulthing.tumbl ... andsybrina

I am so disgusted by this verdict.


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 Post subject: Re: Teen shot in Florida, 911 calls released.
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blondiefk wrote:
Stand your ground doesn't apply if you're a black woman apparently. And she didn't shoot anybody!

http://m.cbsnews.com/storysynopsis.rbml ... d=57433184

So mind-blowingly awful, especially in comparison with Zimmerman.

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 Post subject: Re: Teen shot in Florida, 911 calls released.
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PublicShaming has the comments you don't want to see.

Two seconds in and I wanted to punch my screen. Can't read the rest.

They have audio of the police telling Zimmerman more than once, I believe, to stop following Martin and get back into his car. Then they have audio of Martin screaming for his life and then a bang. How the fork did they find him not guilty? It's so clear that he followed someone who was just walking home, chased him and gunned him down.

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