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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:33 pm 
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Awesome! We need many, many more posts like this. Fat-shaming is just another form of othering and oppression. How can you seriously take part in activism against animal oppression and then tell vegans with a different body shape to go away?


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Damn, yes. That needs to be said over and over and over. I have felt the "look" before from other vegans when doing vegan-y stuff like work at the farm sanctuary or go to vegfest. Yes, I'm vegan; yes, I'm fat; yes, I'm fabulous; yes, I'm vegan for the animals.

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Awesome! We need many, many more posts like this. Fat-shaming is just another form of othering and oppression. How can you seriously take part in activism against animal oppression and then tell vegans with a different body shape to go away?


A-forking-men!

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:05 pm 
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YES. I'm a fat vegan. I was fat before I was vegan and that didn't change when I changed my lifestyle. I've had so many people assume that I've just gone vegan (probably to lose weight) and act obviously shocked when they find out I've been vegan for over 5 years.

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 Post subject: Re: Had enough of body shaming?
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This was such an annoying thing before I lost weight. People would ask me what I eat since of course all food is meat and dairy and then give me "the look."

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 Post subject: Re: Had enough of body shaming?
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Yes, totally awesome article! I have lots of friends who are vegan or have been vegan for several years at a time who are all sorts of shapes, including a pretty high number of awesome vegans who are larger. I would say that most of my vegan friends are extremely excited about food, and many (though certainly not all) cook delicious food from scratch way more than the average American, and cooking and sharing elaborate vegan meals with my friends has been an extremely awesome part of my social life and the communities I've been a part of since I was just becoming familiar with veganism. Probably for at least some of my friends, they weigh more than they might otherwise because there is SO MUCH DELICIOUS VEGAN FOOD TO BE EATEN. I think it is utterly ridiculous to think that these folks would be poor ambassadors of veganism.

And more importantly, they're terrific ambassadors of veganism because they are compassionate and all-around awesome people, who are also by and large motivated to advocate for marginalized and oppressed groups of all sorts.


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A group of local vegans were trying to put together a team for a Warrior Dash or some other adventure race. Anyway, I asked if I could join and one of the women said no, because I didn't look fit enough and I wouldn't be a good representation of vegan athletes. Uh...I may be larger than some, but I just ran a forking marathon last year, bisque! Anyway, I'm glad that bad attitude came out from the get go so I didn't have to waste my time with people like that.

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That is so rude! I have no words for how rude that is. RUDE.

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 Post subject: Re: Had enough of body shaming?
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A group of local vegans were trying to put together a team for a Warrior Dash or some other adventure race. Anyway, I asked if I could join and one of the women said no, because I didn't look fit enough and I wouldn't be a good representation of vegan athletes. Uh...I may be larger than some, but I just ran a forking marathon last year, bisque! Anyway, I'm glad that bad attitude came out from the get go so I didn't have to waste my time with people like that.

That is forked. I say you and I find a couple other generously proportioned vegans and do the Warrior Dash next year (assuming this was in Toronto, that is).

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 Post subject: Re: Had enough of body shaming?
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A group of local vegans were trying to put together a team for a Warrior Dash or some other adventure race. Anyway, I asked if I could join and one of the women said no, because I didn't look fit enough and I wouldn't be a good representation of vegan athletes. Uh...I may be larger than some, but I just ran a forking marathon last year, bisque! Anyway, I'm glad that bad attitude came out from the get go so I didn't have to waste my time with people like that.

What a crasshole! Seriously, screw her. Also, I don't even get what is a "good representation of vegan athletes". You are like the most athletic person I know.

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A group of local vegans were trying to put together a team for a Warrior Dash or some other adventure race. Anyway, I asked if I could join and one of the women said no, because I didn't look fit enough and I wouldn't be a good representation of vegan athletes. Uh...I may be larger than some, but I just ran a forking marathon last year, bisque! Anyway, I'm glad that bad attitude came out from the get go so I didn't have to waste my time with people like that.

whaaaaat. That's awful. Jeez, way for her to further the "vegans are judgemental douchebags" stereotype.

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Then there are the people who tell me I look sick and should go tan or something.

I get concerned people asking me if I feel okay all the time. It always confuses me, and I tell them I feel fine, and they say "are you sure? Your face looks pale." The last time I was in the emergency room, I had the triage nurse tell me that she could tell I was sick, because I looked "so terribly pale and ill." After she left, I looked in the mirror to see if I looked any different, and nope. That's just me. Pale and miserable looking.


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 Post subject: Re: Had enough of body shaming?
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I can't even with that, lobsteriffic! I'm literally sitting here trying to think of some response, but I can't. That's so infuriating!!

Also, I think you are fierce!

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 Post subject: Re: Had enough of body shaming?
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lobsteriffic wrote:
A group of local vegans were trying to put together a team for a Warrior Dash or some other adventure race. Anyway, I asked if I could join and one of the women said no, because I didn't look fit enough and I wouldn't be a good representation of vegan athletes. Uh...I may be larger than some, but I just ran a forking marathon last year, bisque! Anyway, I'm glad that bad attitude came out from the get go so I didn't have to waste my time with people like that.

That is forked. I say you and I find a couple other generously proportioned vegans and do the Warrior Dash next year (assuming this was in Toronto, that is).


I was just thinking that if someone did that to me, I'd enter on my own with a shirt that said vegan in large letters.

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That is forked. I say you and I find a couple other generously proportioned vegans and do the Warrior Dash next year (assuming this was in Toronto, that is).


Yes! Ppk team for Toronto Warrior Dash 2014!

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lobsteriffic wrote:
A group of local vegans were trying to put together a team for a Warrior Dash or some other adventure race. Anyway, I asked if I could join and one of the women said no, because I didn't look fit enough and I wouldn't be a good representation of vegan athletes. Uh...I may be larger than some, but I just ran a forking marathon last year, bisque! Anyway, I'm glad that bad attitude came out from the get go so I didn't have to waste my time with people like that.

That is forked. I say you and I find a couple other generously proportioned vegans and do the Warrior Dash next year (assuming this was in Toronto, that is).


I was just thinking that if someone did that to me, I'd enter on my own with a shirt that said vegan in large letters.


Ha! Perfect!

Lobsterific, that is so forked up.

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j-dub wrote:
That is forked. I say you and I find a couple other generously proportioned vegans and do the Warrior Dash next year (assuming this was in Toronto, that is).


Yes! Ppk team for Toronto Warrior Dash 2014!


I'd love to be able to do this, too! I think I'd like the T-shirts to say "This is what a vegan looks like." Because anyone can be vegan!

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Or a T shirt saying "I get my protein eating my competition for breakfast."

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Yes! Ppk team for Toronto Warrior Dash 2014!


Each time I scroll too quickly I think this says "Tomato Warrior Dash," which sounds awesome but maybe messy.


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I don't even know if this is body shaming or what it is.
Anyway, my mum has been obsessed with me wearing makeup since I was 15 or so. I am 22 now.
She always tells me to put on mascara and get a tan. I've had some major confidence issues and feel very ashamed when I am not wearing make up. Anyway, today we are going sailing with my grandparents and I told my mum that I wouldn't put on makeup so I could get a tan, and then she said: "ok. just a little mascara then?" And I said no. Then she said: "oh, but a bit of mascara won't prevent you from getting a tan"
I don't know.. I am so upset. She doesn't say it to hurt me, and I know she doesn't feel well herself if she isn't wearing mascara. but it really just feeds that little voice of mine, telling me I am not good enough the way I am.


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Ugh that's so sad, Shamini. She's totally putting her own insecurities onto you... which is something I feel like every parent always says they are going to try to avoid! Argh! The idea of a parent doing that to their own kid makes me super bummed.

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Yeah, I think it's a special kind of shaming that happens between parents and their kids. I'm sorry she was making you feel that way, Shamini. You do you!

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Or a T shirt saying "I get my protein eating my competition for breakfast."


I love this.

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Shamini, it sounds like your mother is not a great role model when it comes to body issues. If you want to maintain family peace I would smile, nod, and ignore her. But I don't think that kind of appearance shaming has any place coming from parents, and it makes me so sad. I hope I never say anything like that to my daughter.


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This article reminded me of this thread.

http://msfitmag.com/all-hail-the-fathletes/

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