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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:52 pm 
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It's like giving heroin to a drug addict! So you're gonna give the heroin out to the non-addicts?

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Yes, heroin for the non-addicts and a tough love note for the addicts. Problem solved.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 5:09 pm 
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It's like giving heroin to a drug addict! So you're gonna give the heroin out to the non-addicts?
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Yes, heroin for the non-addicts and a tough love note for the addicts. Problem solved.
It's like Nancy Reagan's plan back in the eighties. Just say "No you can't have any candy. Or heroin. But if you could have one, you should choose heroin, because heroin addicts are always so skinny and healthy. Happy Halloween!"

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my kid just came home from trick or treating and shocked me with the fact that one house was giving away sloppy joes and water bottles. it was cold and rainy, so i am glad someone thought about feeding the little rats on a cold night (in this town trick or treating is limited to a 3-block radius, the rest of the town is too rural for it) although it wouldn't have done much for me.

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 Post subject: Re: Had enough of body shaming?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:41 pm 
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Lululemon's owner says that women's big thighs are to blame for faulty pants.

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If you are one of the women who spent $98 on a pair of Lululemon pants and found them to be faulty, the company’s founder would like you to know: It’s not the pants’ fault. It’s your thighs.
“Frankly some women’s bodies just don’t actually work for it,” founder and former designer Chip Wilson said in an interview with Bloomberg TV. One design of Lululemon yoga pants was recalled for being too see-through last May. And while Wilson admitted that he knows there was a serious flaw with the sheerness of their pants, he said new complaints over pants pilling just shows that “they don’t work for some women’s bodies”:
Even our small sizes would fit an extra large. It’s really about the rubbing through the thighs, how much pressure is there over a period of time, how they much they use it.
Bloomberg’s host then commented, “interesting, not every woman can wear a Lululemon yoga pant.” To which Wilson responded, “no I think they can, it’s just how you use it.”
Placing blame on women’s bodies, as opposed to manufacturing issues, isn’t very logical. Women’s legs naturally touch. In fact, there’s growing concern among eating disorder specialists over a fad trend of trying to achieve a “thigh gap” — having thighs that don’t meet even when one’s feet are touching. That’s physically impossible for most people, but has nonetheless become a goal for young women putting pressure on themselves to look a certain way.

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 Post subject: Re: Had enough of body shaming?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:58 pm 
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bwahahahah! My thighs touched even at my lowest ED weight. what the fizzle.

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 Post subject: Re: Had enough of body shaming?
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An item of clothing not fitting every single type of body = logical.
Making pants that are too low quality to actually be worn more than once? = stupid.


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I have a pair of knock-off Lulus (One Tooth, actually made in Vancouver and half the price) that I've had since 2009 and they are still going strong. My thighs are VERY friendly toward each other.

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 Post subject: Re: Had enough of body shaming?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:21 pm 
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I really hate people who talks about weight a lot! so what if I am fat? sigh!!

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 Post subject: Re: Had enough of body shaming?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:22 pm 
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Lululemon can go fork themselves. Their pants have been pilling for YEARS, these are not "new complaints." I got one pair four years ago and after wearing them twice, they're all pilled up. I started wearing them as my gross go-to-work-and-roll-around-with-dogs pants, and they pill EVERYWHERE.

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 Post subject: Re: Had enough of body shaming?
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Possible ED trigger about Beyonce and post-pregnancy dieting under the spoiler. "Girls Rule The World" my asparagus.

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I am so annoyed at the Daily Beast, which aggregated an article, which I am not posting because I don't want them to get any more traffic than they already will, by a female writer who followed Beyonce's post-pregnancy diet advice (which helped her lose her babyweight in 9 weeks). The upshot of it is that she did the Master Cleanse (with a few cheat meals) and exercised more than a woman who is less than 6 weeks postpartum would not normally be allowed to do (I don't feel comfortable posting details, even under a spoiler). And surprise, it works and she loses weight, and then goes on about how Queen Bey is really a genius and how great it is that she isn't like other celebs who crash diet and then claim they lost the weight through a sensible diet and exercise.

I don't think that celebs should lie about what they did to lose their babyweight, but really they shouldn't be giving a roadmap to unhealthy crashdiets either. And I know its not even their fault - if you have an ability to make millions of dollars selling the rights to pictures of your post baby body and how you lost all the weight, its hard to fault them for wanting to profit. I just wish our culture didn't encourage being thin over everything, and then pretends that thin is a proxy for being healthy, which we can all agree that crashdieting is not.

And then Beyonce and her handlers go and sells her as being all pro-girl power and even my friends who are mothers and professionals are shelling out huge amounts to take their daughters to her shows.

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 Post subject: Re: Had enough of body shaming?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:34 pm 
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paprikapapaya wrote:
bwahahahah! My thighs touched even at my lowest ED weight. what the fizzle.

I have never had an ED, but I was a very late bloomer and hit my adult height of 5'8" at 15ish. Since I really didn't start filling out until about 22 or 23, those first couple of years I was alarmingly thin. I had calluses on my back from the seats at school rubbing against my bony spine. But my thighs touched.

Of course, at the time that was actually a good thing. Because in our infinite body shaming wisdom, my peers seemed to espouse the notion that a gap between your thighs meant you were a slut...

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 Post subject: Re: Had enough of body shaming?
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My thighs are VERY friendly toward each other.

oh indeeeeeeed?

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 Post subject: Re: Had enough of body shaming?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 6:28 am 
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Seriously, I HATE HATE HATE the whole concept of talking about how celebrities lose weight after pregnancy. I hate it with the fiery passion of a thousand suns. WHY SHOULD WE CARE? WHAT IS NOT EATING DISORDERED ABOUT GIVING A shiitake ABOUT YOUR WEIGHT A MONTH AFTER YOU GIVE BIRTH? Aaaaarrrrghhhhhhhhh


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 Post subject: Re: Had enough of body shaming?
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Oh and when I was 30 lbs thinner and was eating disordered like crazy I had a thigh gap. And guess what? It did not make me a happier person. It did make me bonier and more likely to die from cardiac arrest, though.


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 Post subject: Re: Had enough of body shaming?
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Yeah, people are weird. About a year and a half ago I was really unwell. I could literally eat two bites of a meal before my stomach hurt too much to eat any more. Plus my body wasn't absorbing my food properly anyway. Naturally, I lost tonnes of weight and loads of people were telling me how good I looked. I looked sick. So messed up.

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paprikapapaya wrote:
bwahahahah! My thighs touched even at my lowest ED weight. what the fizzle.
Not only do my thighs touch each other, they even touch other (consenting) people's thighs on occasion!
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My thighs are VERY friendly toward each other.
How your thighs doin'?

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 Post subject: Re: Had enough of body shaming?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:48 pm 
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I'm already so sick of this thigh gap nonsense.

There is nothing wrong with my frigging thighs, pelvis or skeletal structure. My thighs touch - so forking what?! They're awesome and serve me brilliantly so I'm more than happy to buck this particularly horrible trend by scarfing down some cookies and doing some 100lb squats.


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 Post subject: Re: Had enough of body shaming?
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Ugh, fork the thigh gap. At my ED skinniest my thighs still touched. I feel bad for my growing up self in the 1990's (remember heroin chic and kate moss as the ideals?) and I feel bad for girls growing up today with the thigh gap message.

I almost feel worse for the girls today though, because I think today guys are more on board with the extreme thinness message too. (Or it could be not time but geography; I now live out west whereas I grew up in the Midwest.) Totally my opinion but it just seemed that back when I was a teenager, boys didn't really care about skinny and make comments about girls being skinny. I actually had some guy friends tell me that they cared and I'd look healthier and awesome with several more pounds (again, ED days). Out here/today, I definitely pick up that everyday* males have very much internalized thigh gap-like ideals for women, its just not the women anymore.

(*meaning just males on the street if you will, not males in positions - Hollywood leaps to mind - that help create these images of idealized bodies)


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 Post subject: Re: Had enough of body shaming?
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You guys. What the hell. My cousin's wife posted this about her 4-month-old daughter on facebook:

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I'm kinda over S watching her figure... she sticks her fingers in her mouth so far she gags and the spits up all over me!


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 2:10 pm 
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Can we please stop the anecdotes about whether our thighs touch or not? I feel like it's a bit off topic, and encourages comparisons and ED talk and all that stuff, even though I know no one intends it that way.

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 Post subject: Re: Had enough of body shaming?
PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:41 pm 
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I read this thread all the time, but most of the time when i am posting, it is when i have a question with how to respond to body shamers. You guys are all much better at wording things nicely and smartly, and i am not the best at talking. Especially when talking about healthy body weights because i don't know much about that.
I was meeting with this girl at my school today about starting a vegclub on campus. She was really nice, and we have very similar ideas about what we want to do as a club. She is more into being vegan for health than me, which is fine, except when she made a few comments about fat= unhealthy, heart attacks, diabetes. I didn't know how best to respond, so i just kept quiet about it and now i really regret it. I know i can say something like "It's not your place to police others bodies, and i'd appreciate if you did not body shame people in front of me" but it would be really, really nice to have a few facts to say about health at every size.

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If she's a reader, I found "Fat Politics" by J. Eric Oliver to be a good intro to the topic.


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Thread on another forum I post on and someone mentioned how they'd read a shop was going to introduce size uk16 mannequins because that is the average dress size in the uk. The comment was something like 'if that is the average that is shocking, it's telling girls it's ok to be overweight'. Thankfully, pretty much everyone else has called her out on this (which I'm surprised about because threads like that on this particular forum usually make me super-ragey), because the thread is about body shaming.

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Started reading a history of feminism that starts out with an anecdote of a woman the author armchair-diagnosed as anorexic after seeing her in public briefly. The evidence? She was thin AND didn't want any of the menu items at a deli. How did she know the woman didn't have terminal cancer for heaven's sake? (Yes I'm being extreme, and I certainly hope for the woman's sake that she didn't, but my point is that there are all kinds of reasons someone might not have an appetite and be thin and I don't think it's helpful to combat the policing of fatness with the policing of thinness.)


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