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 Post subject: 2016 Scottish Parliament Election
PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 1:27 pm 
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Because why not? It's happening before the U.S. election.

What's gonna happen? Will it be a referendum on another referendum? Will the SNP sweep it or will there actually be other parties elected to government? Has Jeremy Corbyn injected enough life into the Labour Party for Scots to forget about their alliance with the enemy or are they forever tainted as Red Tories? Will Nicola Sturgeon consume the souls of her vanquished foes and gain immortality?

In all seriousness, this will hopefully be the first time I get to vote here, so I'm pretty excited. I hope the level of political participation is maintained and we get a good turnout.

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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Scottish Parliament Election
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Well yeah even the next CENTENNIAL will happen before the US election!

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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Scottish Parliament Election
PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 5:03 pm 
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Will Nicola Sturgeon consume the souls of her vanquished foes and gain immortality?

I really, really hope so.

Seriously though, it will be interesting to see what effect the election of Corbyn has.

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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Scottish Parliament Election
PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 1:44 pm 
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When do you get your full citizenship, Rachell? Do you know? I am still sad it's not Scottish citizenship just! I think my first vote was in a Scottish Parly election; I previously though it was a boring European one, but I checked the dates and it must've been the former. Excitement! And all +16 year olds are now eligible to vote here now, so that's really gonna fork with the polling!

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it will be interesting to see what effect the election of Corbyn has.


I don't think it will have much of an effect. 'Scottish' Labour, in tandem with Corbyn, are trying to make it plain that really they have nothing much to do with each other (post-Lamont-gate). Corbyn in a GE (if he ever makes it that far)? Mebbes that would make a difference here... But with Kezia large and in charge with her Blairite agenda? Meh. Not to mention that Corbyn has already been shown, in his own account of himself, to have no forking clue about Scotland or our government or whathaveye. Not particularly surprising from a London career politician, but nonetheless it was really disappointing to see him parrot an absolute pile of pish on the Marr show last Sunday and on other occasions.

I don't know who I'm going to vote for in May. If Harvie is top of the list for the Greens (as I assume he will be; don't reckon on him winning the constituency vote, but who knows), then I'll give him one of my votes because he's great. But, I have no party affiliation and I'll see who's standing first. I'd rather have someone I like (and there is plenty to dislike in some of the sitting and potential MSPs of all stripes). Curious to see who may stand for the Socialists and new lot 'RISE'. Labour/Tories/Tommy feckin' Sheridan and his one man ego party will never get my vote.

I seen today in The Scotsman that Anas Sarwar is trying to get into Holyrood. Forkin Magrit Curran has been mentioned too (these are Labour MPs that lost their Glasgow Westminster seats at the GE). This peas me off. Due to the Proportional Representation list system, if they do get placed at the top of the list they'll get a seat. To which my reaction is: FORKING BITE ME. They, like so many of their compatriots, treated Holyrood as a toy parliament and were also awful, awful, MPs. To think they will get a place (and if they're top of the list, they will (that's PR for yeh!) does my head in.

Also, I see Tories are thinking they may come in 2nd place. As much as that would have previously shocked me, I can see the logic (and some recent polling supports it)- if this is going to possibly come down to Unionists vs Independence supporters, then why wouldn't Unionists go for the party that have 'Unionist' in their name? (i.e. the 'Conservative and Unionist Party', to give them their full title.') I mean, like, if they are completely lacking in souls ;)

Sorry for the word vomit. THIS IS ME DIALING IT BACK!

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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Scottish Parliament Election
PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 12:40 pm 
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When do you get your full citizenship, Rachell? Do you know? I am still sad it's not Scottish citizenship just! I think my first vote was in a Scottish Parly election; I previously though it was a boring European one, but I checked the dates and it must've been the former. Excitement! And all +16 year olds are now eligible to vote here now, so that's really gonna fork with the polling!

Funny you should ask, because I found out today that my application was successful! I was worried that they'd read my Tweeter and see I was a dirty nat (small n because I'm a Green) and decide not to grant it because, technically, I was working towards dismantling the UK. I'm also sad that I don't get a Scottish passport, but we'll work on that.

The only talk I've heard from UK Labour is that foolishness about not referring to Scotland but to places in Scotland. I guess technically it makes sense as it's trying to get across that Scotland isn't a monolith, but at the same time, it'll be interesting to hear if they know of any towns outside Edinburgh and Glasgow.

Aye, that's bullshiitake about the former MPs standing as MSPs after people have told them they're not wanted. Hopefully other parties will helpfully point that out and it'll backfire to the tune of even lower levels of support.

Obviously I'm second voting Green. Alison Johnstone is standing for the Edinburgh Central constituency seat against Sarah Boyack and Ruth Davidson. She's obviously not gonna win, but I'm not in that constituency so I can't vote for her. I guess I'll probably first vote SNP. Hopefully the constituency candidate isn't an awful space-filler like the guy who stood in South and was the only person who managed to be too terrible for people to get rid of the last Labour guy.

Unfortunately I agree that the Tories are likely to finish second, especially if Labour can't up their game. But I hope for the best. That said, Ruth Davidson seems more fun than Kezia Dugdale (who, btw, I think I may have met when I was at uni, and she was definitely a friend of friends).

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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Scottish Parliament Election
PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:31 pm 
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Woo! Do you have to say you heavy love the Queen as part of your citizenship hingmy? Can you cross your fingers behind your back? Or get a stand - in like with Corbyn and his Privy Council whatsit?

Corbyn on Marr was parroting classic Scottish Labour #SNPBAD stuff about how SNP have privatised CalMac (they haven't; there's an EU law about tendering that they have to go through exactly the same as the one the Lab/Lib Dem coalition had to do in the 2005 gov) and Scotrail (they haven't; John Major's UK government privatised the railways in 1993 and it's a reserved matter that no Scottish government can do anything about) They seriously think we button up the back here. Still.

The referring to Scottish places as actual Scottish places and not just 'Scotland' is an interesting one. Since I was a wee child it pissed me off that, say, in 'UK' teevee shows, places, in England, however small, always got mentioned by their name, while anywhere in Scotland was just 'Scotland'. Scotland doesn't have names for individual towns, you see. That was how it appeared. So, you'd get kids calling into 'Going Live' with Philip Schofield and Phillipa Forrester or whoever and it'd be "and here's Emma from Birmingham on the line!" Or "here's Martin from Welwyn Garden City with some chat"; "Let's hear what Simon from Gravesend thinks about the latest Count Duckula episode" etc. etc....and then, "And now we've a call from James in Scotland!" Always the country, never the individual place. And it still happens. All the time. And yet, I didn't vote for independence because a caller to This Morning was identified as being from 'Scotland' rather than, say, Kirkcudbright.

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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Scottish Parliament Election
PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:43 pm 
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I'd like to know what Simon thought of the Count.

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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Scottish Parliament Election
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An illegal ducking immigrant from Romania who must be stopped at the border! Because borders are good unless they are between Scotland and England! Out, damn ducks, OUT!

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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Scottish Parliament Election
PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 4:24 am 
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I suspect Count Duckula is the kind of immigrant those types of people find acceptable. He is, after all, a Count - rich people are always welcome.

I feel like UK Labour trying to use Scottish place names to win back favour in Scotland is a bit like middle-aged people trying to use slang from the current generation to prove they're down with the kids - they might know it and even be able to pronounce it, but it'll never sound quite right.

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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Scottish Parliament Election
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2016 2:38 pm 
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I see Labour have announced their list candidates. And bloody Sarwar is top of the Glasgow one. What. The. Fork. Have they learned nothing? Did he buy his way there with the fancy 500 person dinner he held in November and his daddy's money? I feel half astounded and half not even surprised. The cronyism in Scottish Labour is unbelievable. How is this guy, comprehensively rejected by voters in the GE, allowed to get back in in this manner?! Johann Lamont must be pissed. And I do not doubt that he'll be agitating for Kezia's job after this all plays out. Jeez, and didn't she say she was going to get fresh new people in as candidates? There's very little evidence of that having happened, looking at the lists in full. And, again, Sarwar. If he's the creme de la creme of Glasgow Labour at this point in time then I just... Oooft. What a time to be alive.

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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Scottish Parliament Election
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2016 2:56 pm 
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Gotta say though, this U.S.A. stuff going on at this same time does put things into perspective a wee bit and make our politics seem slightly less bampottery. Tho we've not heard that much from David Coburn recently, so there's time yet. Which reminds me: this EU referendum? And the bullshiitake disregard for the effect it may have on our (and N.I.'s, and Wales') election? fork's sake.

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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Scottish Parliament Election
PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 6:13 am 
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Sent off my postal vote yesterday. Constituency vote SNP (they have a lot of good policies and I have no time whatsoever for Scottish Labour, the Tories and Lib Demswho were the only other choices). Second vote Green.

I feel like I've heard/read/seen next to nothing about the Scottish Parliament elections so far though, apart from a few leaflets through the door.

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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Scottish Parliament Election
PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 6:49 am 
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Mike actively seeks out that stuff (he buys the National and still follows Wings over Scotland) so I see some of it. And of course I get emails from the Greens. We've had one leaflet from each of SNP, Labour, Tories and Greens (today actually, and now I have a poster for the windae!), and we've had stalls at the foot of the Walk. But I've hardly seen any mainstream coverage. Most of the political coverage is about the EU referendum or Westminster bullshiitake.

Did anyone watch the debates? We meant to watch them on catch-up but haven't. I guess there's really no point since I knew who I was gonna vote for before most of the candidates were announced (1st vote SNP, 2nd vote Green).

Mike is leaving work early on election day so we can vote together since I'll be in between parts of a conference (which luckily is in Edinburgh)! I'm excited about voting in my first election here.

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